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So I must say. The whole expansion, legacy of Romulus = Awesome.:D
I mean I don't think there has been a single thing that has come out since I started
playing that has been better. Now that being said.
Where are the Science ships?I don't much care for the lower tier ships as we go through them so quickly, however at tier 5 there isn't a single science ship in the Romulan Fleet.
And if you claim the Ha?apax is science, well...your wrong. Sorry to put it bluntly.
A science ship is like a Nebula, Vesta, or Veranus. It must have a
commander level science to be considered a science. Putting a lot of consoles
that are science doesn't make it a science.
So i'll get off my soap box but I hope a dev notices this and maybe other true science
players or people who are willing to support the the supports:cool: so its noticed
that we don't yet have a ship.
I am willing to pay for it I just want one.
I mean I don't think there has been a single thing that has come out since I started
playing that has been better. Now that being said.
Where are the Science ships?I don't much care for the lower tier ships as we go through them so quickly, however at tier 5 there isn't a single science ship in the Romulan Fleet.
And if you claim the Ha?apax is science, well...your wrong. Sorry to put it bluntly.
A science ship is like a Nebula, Vesta, or Veranus. It must have a
commander level science to be considered a science. Putting a lot of consoles
that are science doesn't make it a science.
So i'll get off my soap box but I hope a dev notices this and maybe other true science
players or people who are willing to support the the supports:cool: so its noticed
that we don't yet have a ship.
I am willing to pay for it I just want one.
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I've actually been rather pleased with the Mogai having a nice slant towards science. From my experiences, Warbirds work very nicely in conjunction with tractor beams.
Granted, I think I'd rather see a boff layout like the patrol escort on the Mogai and a boff layout similar to a nebula on the D'Deridex. Those are the impressions I get with the canon and NPC versions of them, anyways.
I'm entirely anticipating that there will be a D'Deridex "3 pack", ala the Vesta pack that will have a Science-y version...
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan_science_vessel
But yeah, depending on how well the launch goes - what the interest is in the Romulans - will determine what additional resources are allocated to them...
Which is why they should be focusing on making the Romuln launch go well and make sure they can daw in as many players as possible.
I believe having a COMPLETE ship lineup is critical to this goal.
I'm familiar with that hull... I think Star Trek Legacy called its class a Harpy. They also had a miniature D'deridex without the bottom wings called a Raptor.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Also...if you dont have the commander slot of your ship class(eng/sci/tac).....then your train bridge offiicer skills are useless...eg: Gravity well 3.
This matter also effects ships like the bortasqu and vestas, both of which have BO slots that dont reflect the class of ship its supposed to be.
Quick idea...........ships with 3 variants..........universal comm slot.....problem solved;)
Projects a cloaking field around the ship, allowing teammates to fire from cloaked position.
Now that would be an awesome supporting ability, similar to the Honor-Guard masking field ....
All universal boffs and all universal console slots across the board.-problem solved.
Also to the previous poster who said geko talked out science ships. He glazed over that somewhat quick in that interview. I sincerely hope the ROM faction will have a science ship very soon instead of going the way of the KDF in that sense.
I have been going through the rom campaign on a new fed ship and have run across a couple of D's using high-level sci powers. So it makes sense with established fiction (to the extent that it is possible)
Unfortunately there isn't variety with Romulan faction, which means you are forced to use what you are given. Seems like it's to get you buying cstore ships. Suppose it is fair in a way.
The fact you start with warbirds that are similar to escorts and then been forced to switch (unless you pay money) to big lumbering bricks is bad design if you ask me. Essentially halfway through their career a Romulan Captain has to completely rethink his/her boff choices, skill sets and gear choices.
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
I think it's a little odd that the Romulans don't have more science ships as it seems to me they are a very scientific (calculating?) species. This is a group who is constantly researching shady weapons and projects, so not having a science ship doesn't seem to fit the Romulan personality.
so far it looks as if most rom ships are sci oriented
would like to see real sci ships added at some point
The only downside I can think of by having static boff layouts per ship is less ships being sold. Stupid idea, but I guess they will never learn.
And no really, this will not totally unbalance the game. Did Klingon BoP's ever got super OP? Not really. They are still the weakest ships around overall, yet they all have 4 Uni stations which is ALOT more fun imo to work with imo.
and what about fleet defiant with all unis? it'd get rid of the dreaded "3 ensign tac's" curse that all cannon builds complain about and can give them more survivability and such.
Klingon boP's get all uyni's becasue they are weakest of ships when it comes to hull and shields.
I whole heartily agreed. Romulans seem to use the same ship for a variety of tasks. Just as the Nebula had amazing senors or could unload an array or torpedoes.
The current lineup is just to have something available for the beta testing. They're not placeholders, but the lineup isn't complete yet.
My character Tsin'xing
In the meantime, I'm fine with the limited number of lower tier ships, but would love some universal BoFF slots in there. Even if its a c-store version it would add some flexibility considering its more or less one ship per tier at the moment
uni lt for dhelan
uni lt com for mogai
uni lt com for stock t4 d'deridex
please? pretty please?
Still, I feel like leaving science ships out is going to drastically limit the variety of Romulan captains. We need a Romulan equivalent of the Vesta, or at least a carrier.
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Cmdr Tac = Escort
Cmdr Eng = Cruiser
Cmdr Sci = Science Vessel
They think of the ships as classes (yeah, I don't get it either - it's as if the character is just part of the itemization for the ship rather than the ship being part of the itemization for the character)...
KDF Raiders get hit pretty hard in various areas for having that Uni BOFF layout. They're Geko's Assassins. Yes, he sees the ships as classes and the BoP's class is Assassin.
So, given that he thinks of the Romulans as a faction of Hybrid-Assassins...well, one might have expected to perhaps see those Cmdr slots being Tac/Eng/Sci...but there being far more Uni BOFFs for that "Assassin" role.
It's one of the inconsistencies that he says he does not like, that he keeps doing (kind of like him complaining about mudflation while constantly adding mudflation, eh?).
They operate under the belief (and it's kind of easy to agree with them on this), if you could do everything with one ship - you wouldn't need another ship. They want people to fly more than one ship...they want people to buy more than one ship.
They're his Assassins. They've got their decloak alpha vape/assassination...but out in the open, they're going to get shredded (figurative...it's kind of funny how well you can actually tank with a BoP in Ker'rat or PUGland queues).
It really takes away a lot of incentive to spend a lot of time with this character after completing the storyline, unless a suitable solution is found (either allowing the Vesta or Fleet RSV, or providing a reasonable alternative--i.e. NOT at a ripoff price for something that will only be used on one toon).
Sure, maybe it's a weakness on my part as a player, but the Vesta and RSV are the only ships I have ever REALLY clicked with. Without having them, or something similar, playing the Romulan toon will become a chore. :-/
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Yeah, Geko said that the canon Rommie sci ship looked "boring" and too much like other romulan ships, but regardless of that I think a lot of players would like to see a Romulan ship with cmdr sci available at launch. It seems strange that there will literally be no way to use a cmdr sci boff to the fullest extent at launch except by flying a T4 Fed or KDF science vessel or a lockbox ship.
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In that recent UGC interviews geko podcast one of the hosts pitched cruisers gaining a "paladin" aura type ability to support the ships around them which geko said he liked, so maybe there will be something like that implemented.
It's mildly off-topic, but yeah. When I heard that, I immediately thought that sort of thing would be great to have on my Bortas. I find people tend to gather around/follow it naturally and it is a ship that benefits from having people escort it if it's built as a siege platform.
Conversely, adding group support abilities to Engineering BOFFs (including "aura" type abilities) would go a long way towards adding some badly needed variety to cruiser loadouts.
Easiest way is to have toned down versions of things like Tac/Sci/Engi fleet (with some tweaked bonuses of course) or a version of the Jemmy fleet buff console.