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  • kain9primekain9prime Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    From the path to 2409:

    For 480 dilithium what is the correct answer:

    A)Klingons

    B)Klingons

    C)Klingons

    At level 10 who will you ally with? I know I know - story means nothing - you will go with your primary faction regardless of the backstory. Or nonsensical story.
    Ok. Point?
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  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If you want to "justify" why your Klingon is helping D'tan's people, think you are using them as a tool/weapon against the Romulan Empire and Sela or a mean and a gateway to romulan space and potential conquest of new territories.

    So, if it takes tagging a few Epohh to expand, so be it...
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  • number1romulannumber1romulan Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If you want to "justify" why your Klingon is helping D'tan's people, think you are using them as a tool/weapon against the Romulan Empire and Sela or a mean and a gateway to romulan space and potential conquest of new territories.

    So, if it takes tagging a few Epohh to expand, so be it...

    No - Despite having several top leveled KDF toons I think I will not roll a Klingomulan - I just can't get my head around the story part. But do not fear my KDF friends the toons will not go unused - they are still the most superiour farming toons in the game - please cryptic don't gimp the KDF's doffing abilites with this new launch.

    Personally I wish there were only 2 factions in the game: Fed/Klingon alliance(as is more natural) and Romulan.
  • romulanwayromulanway Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    All proudly romulans, do not support Romulan Republic ,they are servants of Federation & Klingon Empire
    LoR should to be about rebuilding Romulan Star Empire,liberating Donatra from borg collective ,confronting Sela & madness of Tal Shiar,claiming Vulcan as new romulan homeworld...
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    QFT - Vulcan/Federation

    "Notice the primitive rage in his eye... the uncontrolled brutality. Klingons can be quite entertaining, don't you agree? I think every Romulan zoo should have a pair" - DS9 - Tears of the Prophets

    This attitude ("All hail the Romulan Reich") is one of the reasons the Klingons did not send aid.
    The other reason are massacres like Narendra III and Khitomer.

    Considering what we see in the Romulan campaign on TRIBBLE, my guess is the sacrifice of a Romulan showed the Klingons that the Republic is not the same as the Tal Shiar or the old Empire.
    And that's the main reason they decided to aid said republic.
  • number1romulannumber1romulan Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    This attitude ("All hail the Romulan Reich") is one of the reasons the Klingons did not send aid.
    The other reason are massacres like Narendra III and Khitomer.

    Considering what we see in the Romulan campaign on TRIBBLE, my guess is the sacrifice of a Romulan showed the Klingons that the Republic is not the same as the Tal Shiar or the old Empire.
    And that's the main reason they decided to aid said republic.

    That scene - that whole episode was one of the best in DS9 - of course Jadzia got killed in the end - that was a bummer.

    My 2 favorite trek charaters are not human or Romulan - but Klingon and Cardassian

    General Martok and Elim Garak - so much depth and substance to those 2 you just have to love them.

    Yes Cryptic is trying hard to make this "story" more believable - but I still don't buy it from either side. The Republic is supposed to be peaceful reunificationist - but are going to pick different sides in someone elses war to fight and kill each other - other reunificationist romulans? This make utterly no SENSE!
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    That scene - that whole episode was one of the best in DS9 - of course Jadzia got killed in the end - that was a bummer.

    My 2 favorite trek charaters are not human or Romulan - but Klingon and Cardassian

    General Martok and Elim Garak - so much depth and substance to those 2 you just have to love them.

    *raises coffee mug*
    I agree.:)
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    From the path to 2409:

    For 480 dilithium what is the correct answer:

    A)Klingons

    B)Klingons

    C)Klingons

    At level 10 who will you ally with? I know I know - story means nothing - you will go with your primary faction regardless of the backstory. Or nonsensical story.

    There is a huge difference between not sending aid to a group who's home is destroyed and letting it happen in the first place. The Feds and Vulcans had plenty of warning and choose to do nothing, they could have helped. Spock, Geordi, Picard and others had to go behind Starfleets back and even then they still failed to save Romulus.
  • number1romulannumber1romulan Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between not sending aid to a group who's home is destroyed and letting it happen in the first place. The Feds and Vulcans had plenty of warning and choose to do nothing, they could have helped. Spock, Geordi, Picard and others had to go behind Starfleets back and even then they still failed to save Romulus.

    Personally I think it should be a Fed/KDF alliance against the Romulans - that would make sense.

    But a bunch of peaceful reunificationist - decide to join a war they have nothing to do with and then try to kill each other? Romulan reunificationsts killing other romulan reunificationists for their fed or kdf masters - the idea is just so plainly stupid.

    It just makes this whole trek universe even more silly.
  • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yes Cryptic is trying hard to make this "story" more believable - but I still don't buy it from either side. The Republic is supposed to be peaceful reunificationist - but are going to pick different sides in someone elses war to fight and kill each other - other reunificationist romulans? This make utterly no SENSE!

    Gameplay and Story segregation.

    I view it as Reunificationists trying to cooperate with both sides to ensure their own survival, and build up good faith for trading. Any PVP that happens between Fed-Romulans and KDF-Romulans is non-(head)canon, just fun times playing the game.

    Truth be told, with all the Federation and Klingon captains flying Jem'hadar, Tholian, Temporal, Ferengi, and Cardassian ships as part of their standard military... the issue with the Romulans joining sides is one of the least nonsensical parts of the game.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between not sending aid to a group who's home is destroyed and letting it happen in the first place. The Feds and Vulcans had plenty of warning and choose to do nothing, they could have helped. Spock, Geordi, Picard and others had to go behind Starfleets back and even then they still failed to save Romulus.
    I'll just repeat what I said above: the Federation can't do whatever it wants. They can't invade the Romulan Star Empire even with good intentions. That would be like the US invading Russia to save it from Chernobyl. Unless the Romulans ask for help it just can't happen. Spock and Picard don't speak for Romulus any more then Colin Powell and Steven Hawkins speak for Russia.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • number1romulannumber1romulan Member Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thratch1 wrote: »
    Gameplay and Story segregation.

    I view it as Reunificationists trying to cooperate with both sides to ensure their own survival, and build up good faith for trading. Any PVP that happens between Fed-Romulans and KDF-Romulans is non-(head)canon, just fun times playing the game.

    Truth be told, with all the Federation and Klingon captains flying Jem'hadar, Tholian, Temporal, Ferengi, and Cardassian ships as part of their standard military... the issue with the Romulans joining sides is one of the least nonsensical parts of the game.

    Your right - I am ready too much into this - all STO is a spaceship shooter game with a Star Trek wrapper.
  • commandersalvekcommandersalvek Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Its been established that Romulans are a race whose politics can be chaotic -The Romulan fleet supported Shinzon-a human clone who led the slave Remans in exchange for chance to destroy earth in revenge for the losing of the first Earth Romulan war.

    They allied with Klingons in the Klingon civil war-if the Duras had won -there well have been an Romulan-Klingon alliance-

    So they follow D'tan at the moment its a REPUBLIC -It means a senate in some form-many voices-made up of many Romulans from all the remaining worlds of the Empire-I imagine many will look for all avenues to rebuild and rearm- Klingons or Feds.

    But you cannot think beyond Klingons -Hate Romulans and vice versa for a storyline? is D'tan the absolute final word in an ongoing storyline?
  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thratch1 wrote: »
    Gameplay and Story segregation.

    I view it as Reunificationists trying to cooperate with both sides to ensure their own survival, and build up good faith for trading. Any PVP that happens between Fed-Romulans and KDF-Romulans is non-(head)canon, just fun times playing the game.

    Truth be told, with all the Federation and Klingon captains flying Jem'hadar, Tholian, Temporal, Ferengi, and Cardassian ships as part of their standard military... the issue with the Romulans joining sides is one of the least nonsensical parts of the game.

    Not to mention how they reduced* the number of in-game currencies. Everyone knows Latinum is what binds the universe.

    *Replaced by an equivalent number of equally confusing and annoying to grind tokens.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bloctoad wrote: »
    Not to mention how they reduced* the number of in-game currencies. Everyone knows Latinum is what binds the universe.

    *Replaced by an equivalent number of equally confusing and annoying to grind tokens.

    The currency reduction was to get rid of a bunch of currencies that were obtained doing the same content. I could have had 5 different types of Marks of Honor by just doing PvP and 5 different types of Marks of Exploration by doing Explore missions. As far as new currencies go, lots of people make the claim that Fleet Marks and Reputation Marks aren't currencies. So there aren't as many currencies as we had before dilithium was added.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bloctoad wrote: »
    Not to mention how they reduced* the number of in-game currencies. Everyone knows Latinum is what binds the universe.

    *Replaced by an equivalent number of equally confusing and annoying to grind tokens.
    The intent was never just to "reduce" the in-game currencies. The intent was to consolidate them down to currencies that couldn't be out-leveled. Prior to FTP each rank of Captain had it's own currency that became useless when you reached the next rank. All of that was converted to Dilithium - which is as useful from level 1 as it is to level 50.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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