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Tholian Commander during Dewa III
aexrael
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Encounter felt a tad over the top compared to how little time one would have spent optimizing the bridge crew at this point. Took a couple tries to get his Lieutenants down before he could go down.
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As it is now though, you just get stasis'd, mined, and watch helplessly as your entire team just stands around shooting in random directions while huddled around the big blinky device of instant-death. (That's exactly what happened to me when I did the mission and I just applied face directly to palm.)
I actually haven't done the T5 New Romulan Rep mission on two of my Holodeck characters, despite the great rewards, because of how obnoxious it is to fight some of those groups in there.
NPCs avoid plasma grenades and dampening fields, why can't our officers avoid similar terrain hazards?
Also: He was invisible for most of the fight. So that was cool.
And now imagine you are new to STO, just got your first ground kit, don't have any shield batteries, no one told you how to rez your BOs and the only Tholians you know are the mooks you killed right before him.^^
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Perhaps replace the secondary spawns with Ensigns?
Fair enough, I don't tend to look through the lens of a new player. So I guess that begs the question: how much do you want to coddle new players? Do you want to give them challenges like that around level 8? Not sure I know the answer to that, but I think that looking at it that way you might want to throttle the difficulty down some, but I do think having challenging encounters in the opening levels is good.
Momaw's idea about bringing in more NPC survey teams sounds good.
Don't go and over-adjust it -- I wouldn't want to take out all of the challenge -- but a slight tweak to ease up on the insta-party-kills would be good.
The game tells you how to rez your BOs before that encounter.
As others said though, the problem is more the BOFF AI suiciding against their powers. I would suggest that perhaps this commander should lay off some of their powers/abilities that are more adverse to BOFFs for this mission.
im a very experienced space vet, less so for ground, but i still had to respawn at least 10 times, and draw the LTs away so i could fight the COM alone. with next to no boff abilities or kit abilities, you dont have much to work with in this fight
Excellent news.
I had some very choice words for that Tholian Commander last night..
All I did was concentrate on the LTs first (all BOFFs firing on my target), and then set my remaining BOFFs to passive mode. If you can stay out of the COMs AoE range, your BOFFs will too. If your engie and sci BOFFs are still alive, like mine were, they will pretty much keep you alive to solo to COM. At this point in the game, you'll have most of the Ensign BOFF abilities maxed.
A tutorial on how to control your BOFFs could be beneficial. How many of you actually use passive mode, target mode or waypoint mode on a regular basis to micro-manage your BOFFs?
My character Tsin'xing
For a new player who happens to pick a Rommy char first and haphazardly gears their boffs or doesn't even think to gear their boffs... I think they will get flattened. We all know the tutorial points out equipping stuff for yourself, I don't think I remember anything giving the player a clue about the fact that they can gear their BOffs.
I'd suggest tuning the encounter with the expectations that none of the BOffs have armor of any kind and that they still have their base shields and weapon. I'd say drop the Tholian's damage output, but keep their hit points the same. Make it a tough long battle to instill the respect of the Tholians, but stop them from throwing out squad wipes like candy...