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born2bwild1
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Again I had an ISE - where someone went to the right side and blew up a gen
They did it deliberately despite my PM's asking what they were doing and flying around them.
They went close to be out of cube range - dead stop and fired tric torps and phasers from their Star Crusier. after blowing up cube they waited until we mopped up the other side then helped with right side.
Problem for the griefer and why we laughed at them was there was 3 very high powered and skilled Tac Jems in there and vaporized everything so we got the optional!:P:)
I made note of the persons name and fleet name.
better to contact the persons fleet? or GM?
They did it deliberately despite my PM's asking what they were doing and flying around them.
They went close to be out of cube range - dead stop and fired tric torps and phasers from their Star Crusier. after blowing up cube they waited until we mopped up the other side then helped with right side.
Problem for the griefer and why we laughed at them was there was 3 very high powered and skilled Tac Jems in there and vaporized everything so we got the optional!:P:)
I made note of the persons name and fleet name.
better to contact the persons fleet? or GM?
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You report them they do nothing I've tired
You report to fleet you'll just get wrath of their fleet or worse so just leave it . . .
Sorry but it's the harsh truth that nothing will happen
best thing to do is to evade public queue via joining one of the elite stf channels and do stfs there, with those people.
would this be used by more players afker will find themselves grouping with other afkers suddenly. problem solved.
there is a big difference between akfers and deliberately blowing gens on the far side to fail optional and TRIBBLE up the mission.
But I still report them, and here's why:
1) Reporting to GM may not result in a direct action against the offender, but if the staff is blasted with these reports, it will eventually become obvious that it is a problem they need to deal with as a whole. They've already acknowledged it, and say they are looking into solutions, but bombing them with these reports may stoke the fire a little bit more. I encourage it.
2) Reporting them to their Fleet's leaders sometimes results in a negative response, but sometimes it's a positive one. I know that if I was to receive such a report about a member of our fleet behaving badly in stf's or showing up in Fleet Actions in a Miranda, I would take care of it directly in order to prevent tarnishing the fleet name. I have to believe that the majority of the fleets out there feel the same, and would act similarly if they receive such a report. Although some Fleet Admirals respond with a 'So?', and in some cases, the offender WAS a fleet leader, once in a while I talk to a like-minded Fleet Leader that appreciates the alert that one of their members is a potential problem.
None of this will stop these practices. But since the Devs still refuse to take actions to eliminate this now rampant problem they have caused with Season7, it's all we can do.
Why? Because Cryptic dosen't interfer in matters that aren't against the ToS, and AFK'ing / Leeching isn't.
there is some inconsistency there....being a loser requires being a player. just a bad one.
no substantial comment, just being a smartass.
Are they being reviewed? I am sure they are...
However, I seriously doubt any action is being taken
No, we need vote to replace.
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A player in a public queue was not a good player?
A player in a public queue didn't know how to play "correctly"?
A player in a public queue didn't bother reading pretentious team chat?
A player in a public queue refused to play in the manner that others demanded or expected?
A player in a public queue refused to participate once the instance began in order to take advantage of an idiotic rewards system?
NONE of these "offences" is specified as such in the EULA ... ergo, the GMs cannot take action no matter how many tickets they receive.
Your only recourse against griefing is, as has been said over and over in these threads, don't pug! Alternatively, and this is my personal creed, don't care so much about an online computer game instance.
As long as the internet exists, there will be griefing. It's the nature of the anonymous beast. Griefing is directly proportional to the amount of angst that is generated by the action. A voluminous outcry draws griefers like moths to a flame.
AFKers are a different animal. They're farming the rewards that come with the instance. Take away the reward that can be AFK'd and voila ... no AFKers. One solution used in some other successful MMO's is that players must be within immediate aggro range of the kill or completed mission objective in order to be eligible for the associated reward. Your run of the mill AFKer cannot just join the instance and then walk away ... he must sit there and wait for the end of the mission in order to race to the reward range. If he sits within reward range, he's likely to aggro mobs, die and respawn out of reward range. Take away the AFK farm and the AFK farmers move elsewhere.
Is it perfect? ... No ... nothing is ... "What about the player that gets killed seconds before the kill happens or seconds before mission completion?" ... "Won't AFK farmers merely find another farm?" ... I'm sure you'll all come up with more.
My point is that instituting an abusive mechanic (vote to kick) or GM intervention (report spamming) are not solutions to the problem. The problem is inherent in the nature and mechanics of the instance's reward system and it is from here that the solution needs to arise.
... because they would rather stay IN a team of griefers? I don't find your argument works effectively. The group they join after being kicked isn't likely to be full of griefers if the system works well.
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Since there is only 5 people in a team you could be unlucky and get one full of them.. Unlike MPFPS of which can have up 60 players. So justice will come to them after bit, and normally does as I have seen.
Judging by the amount of them I say it does not work..But as one pointed out if we keep bombarding devs with these reports they may do something about it.
If I got a report that someone in my fleet misbehaving, I will kick them. against clan/fleet rules
Sure they can. The User Conduct agreement has at least two section which would be applicable to people afk-leeching or intentionally trying to TRIBBLE people off.
as well as
but unfortunately there is no way to implement it.
Thats how STF's used to work. Everytime you completed an STF the players had to move to the reward spawn point to collect their rewards before leaving the STF but too many stupid people made a fuss that they were leaving an STF and 'forgetting' to claim their reward.
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