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Dilithium Ore is Piling up. Refining cap exceeded everyday.

chaz200565chaz200565 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
My Dilithium Ore is piling up and seems to be useless as i have exceeded the refining cap of a tiny 8000 a day.
The Ore could be used in useful projects if the Devs switch from refined to ore instead.
One simple little alteration will not affect cryptic/pwe money grabbing ways surely.
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    monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_a_dead_horse
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    cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd log on - refine it, log off and go watch a movie. Rinse and repeat until it's all refined :)

    Or play the game for other than Dilithium ;)
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    redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    Or play the game for other than Dilithium ;)

    That!

    Go play and don't care about the mineral...
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    pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    chaz200565 wrote: »
    My Dilithium Ore is piling up and seems to be useless as i have exceeded the refining cap of a tiny 8000 a day.
    The Ore could be used in useful projects if the Devs switch from refined to ore instead.
    One simple little alteration will not affect cryptic/pwe money grabbing ways surely.

    Still demanding that the refinement cap be raised? :rolleyes:

    I think I will go with the suggestion posted by the others - find something else to do in game that is enjoyable. ;)
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    mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Or play on another toon, that's what I usually do unless I REALLY need something on the toon I'm on.
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    cptvanorcptvanor Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    As long as Cryptic has a vested interest in keeping Dilithium rare they're not going to increase the refinement cap.
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    naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    "There is no spoon."

    There is no cap. Just use more characters.
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    nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Stahl has given us his non-answer on this already, when the absolutely impossible task of every character getting close to their daily refinement limit happens, they'll raise it.

    We all know it won't happen, there are too many casual people that don't log in, or people with alts just skimming the bottom bringing in 1k per day. Its an impossible goal, it won't ever happen, but the answer seems to satisfy most people for some reason.
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    captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have to admit I give the OP credit for basically making the same dilithium thread each week for the past couple of months with the same basic complaint worded in a slightly different way each time. It's impressive.

    To the matter at hand, I cant see them changing it while money is attached. Perhaps they could do the 'use ore' for the special vanity ones, or maybe the big base upgrade projects but they wont do it for all.

    as others have said, the best thing is to work on and use multiple characters. then the cap almost goes away.
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    skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    OP, get some alts.
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    deyvaddeyvad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If there was no cap on refining how will that affect the already high dilithium prices?

    yeah, come to think of it I'm quite happy with 8k cap, it still allows me to refined 20-25k daily across multiple toons
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    talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yeah.....just use a few alts once you cap on your main, it's easy enough to gear one up with blue MkXI/XII stuff and run ESTFs.
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    thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    deyvad wrote: »
    If there was no cap on refining how will that affect the already high dilithium prices?

    yeah, come to think of it I'm quite happy with 8k cap, it still allows me to refined 20-25k daily across multiple toons
    I don't think it would affect anything too much. The people like us who really want to refine more than 8k per day already are. :)
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    deyvaddeyvad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm talking about the unwashed masses being able to refined more than 8k, not the superior breed of players smart enough to bypass minor inconveniances.

    a fleet weapons now costs about 125% of a daily dilithium refining, if the refining cap was raised to 50K, we would be able to equip a whole ship with a single day of refining dil.
    Everything I've seen points to Cryptic trying to make us come back for more (come back to refine dil, come back to start rep project, come back for fleet projects, 20hr cool down on missions, etc.), therefore, I strongly believe if the refining cap is raised, we would have a raise in the cost of dilithium throughout the game, from fleet projects, to rep stores, and everything in between (ships, etc.).
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    thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    deyvad wrote: »
    I'm talking about the unwashed masses being able to refined more than 8k, not the superior breed of players smart enough to bypass minor inconveniances.
    What I mean is that I think the vast majority of players already bypass the cap. We're not seeing the "unwashed masses" complaining about the cap in threads like this. We're seeing the minority who only want it their way or no other way at all.

    Even the Silver newb knows he can play his Fed and earn Dilithium and then log into his KDF and watch Contraband fall from the sky - which then gets converted into Dilithium Ore.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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    gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    nicha0 wrote: »
    Stahl has given us his non-answer on this already, when the absolutely impossible task of every character getting close to their daily refinement limit happens, they'll raise it.

    We all know it won't happen, there are too many casual people that don't log in, or people with alts just skimming the bottom bringing in 1k per day. Its an impossible goal, it won't ever happen, but the answer seems to satisfy most people for some reason.

    The reason it satisfy's most people, is that most people don't hit the limit on most characters. Yes the power gamers do. Run a few pug ESTFs to take a look at who "most people" are.
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    jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Although the cap won't be raised in do believe there is merit in the ore not refined idea for fleet projects
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    millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    nicha0 wrote: »
    but the answer seems to satisfy most people for some reason.
    It doesn't satisfy, but at least it's an answer; no, the cap will never be raised.
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    cptvanorcptvanor Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    millimidget wrote: »
    It doesn't satisfy, but at least it's an answer; no, the cap will never be raised.

    I'd say that perhaps most, but at least some are satisfied with that answer, even if you are not.
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    robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The more alts you have the more you can refine. As far as the 8000 a day cap is concerned I don't think they will change it. it is a way to control how much dilithium enters the economy. it also prevent anyone who finds an exploit on earning dilithium ore from flooding the market.

    I may not like it but I understand it. If they were to remove the cap they literally crash the market. Since they view 980 dilithium as about 15 to 20 minutes then they probably feel that 8000 a day makes sense to them.
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    princedimwitprincedimwit Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have 305 dilithium left to contribute to my omega requisition and I can't refine any of my 5,000 dilithium!

    WTF, STO?

    Is there a reason you're doing this or is it arbitrary just to be difficult?
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    disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    princedimwit wrote: »
    I have 305 dilithium left to contribute to my omega requisition and I can't refine any of my 5,000 dilithium!

    WTF, STO?

    Is there a reason you're doing this or is it arbitrary just to be difficult?

    There has always been a cap. It's 8000 a day. And they do it specificaly to annoy you.
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    rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You can only refine 8,000 per day. It resets at 8 PM US Eastern Daylight Time. It's there because they don't want a flood of dilithium in the game, to try and keep control of the economy
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    aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited April 2013
    its there for a reason.. if not dilithium would be through the roof..
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    jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It's to control dilithium's flow into the economy. Removing it would be bad. Stop crying, go refine some on an alt and send it to your other toon via DilEx abuse. Easy peasy.
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    zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    or just spend the 3 zen on it...
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    princedimwitprincedimwit Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    disposeableh3r0 wrote: »
    There has always been a cap. It's 8000 a day. And they do it specificaly to annoy you.

    Yuh, can see how that was called for. I mean clearly I think they're after me specifically.
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    thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    princedimwit wrote: »
    Yuh, can see how that was called for. I mean clearly I think they're after me specifically.
    If you take everything said on a forum personally you're in for a very unhappy life.

    And in all fairness, you have been here 6 months so the 8k cap limit shouldn't have been much of a surprise at this point - especially when there's a new thread about wanting to raise the limit on the forum almost every week. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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    macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    If you take everything said on a forum personally you're in for a very unhappy life.

    And in all fairness, you have been here 6 months so the 8k cap limit shouldn't have been much of a surprise at this point - especially when there's a new thread about wanting to raise the limit on the forum almost every week. :)

    Dilithium exchange is your friend. 2 hours at a minimum wage job == 140,000 dilithium.
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    tachyonharmonictachyonharmonic Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    That's exactly why the cap is there, to convince you to buy zen and exchange it.
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