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Banned from joining or starting queues since when?????

uss917019uss917019 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Feature Episodes, Events and PvE Content
I was in a STF and there was a little accident that you guys all know the nodes being killed before and the OPT fails then 1 player left the map and then I sayd to myself I will just leave also it gave me a STF leave penalty wich is stupid then I want to do some big dig or something else then STF now it says this: [System] [PvPGeneral] You are temporarily banned from joining or creating public queues.

Like since when do you get BANNED in all queues???:mad:

And how long is my ban???
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  • bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 548 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    uss917019 wrote: »
    I was in a STF and there was a little accident that you guys all know the nodes being killed before and the OPT fails then 1 player left the map and then I sayd to myself I will just leave also it gave me a STF leave penalty wich is stupid then I want to do some big dig or something else then STF now it says this: [System] [PvPGeneral] You are temporarily banned from joining or creating public queues.

    Like since when do you get BANNED in all queues???:mad:

    And how long is my ban???

    Since Season 7, and it's for 1 hour.
  • uss917019uss917019 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    it says STF not everything else beside I have left STF before and it never done that to me why today?????
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So you bailed when the optional was failed ?

    Did you consider the 3 guys you left in mission, if they also left they would've gotten a leaver penalty as well but since you left and there was only 3 to try to finish the mission, YOU hosed them.

    A 1 hour ban isn't punishment enough for you selfishness and treachery.
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  • lysandermarcelluslysandermarcellus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
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  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I think the leaver penalty needs to be removed completely.

    Because if its removed, afk leechers will no longer be able to troll so badly.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lysandermarcellus wrote: »
    IMO the leaver penalty should be 24 hours for the STF that you left, 5 hours for all STFs and 1 hour for every other PvE queue

    Oh, and it should also be an account wide timer.

    Worried you'll get wrongfully pinned with it because you have a crappy internet connection? Well, too bad. Get out of the stone-age.

    Most idiotic thing I've read today...
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  • wolfpacknzwolfpacknz Member Posts: 783 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Lol that backfired on the OP didn't it...
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2013
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  • howiedizzlehowiedizzle Member Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have no problem if someone leaves.and.the one hour ban is sufficient... I have a problem with people.who.afk the entire match, then as soon as its over pick up their loot and leave...

    I think if you afk an entire match and grab your loot at the end you should be demoted 10 levels...
  • comashcomash Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yeah, leaving the rest hanging and you get a ban for an hour and complain? This is a mild punishment for such and act, I would be ruthless making it account wide 4 hour ban. I understand sometimes it's not your fault and lose connection sometimes and can't get back on in time, but that's rare enough to not worry about, also I hate it when someone bails just cause the optional failed. On cure space it's more important everyone is there than the other two. So, the one hour ban is a good thing and imo not harsh enough.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    There should be a team kick feature that can be implemented by the team voting to kick someone else off the team if they are AFKing.
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The OP said 1 person already left and then he decided to leave and got a penalty. If 1 person already left the mission other players should be able to leave without penalty. Players should not be forced into playing short handed or get a penalty.

    I have been in some ground missions that had multiple people leave making the mission impossible to finish and then I left and got a penalty and that is just BS. I hate having to either wait 15 min from start of the mission to be able to leave without penalty.

    I personally don't like the penalty at all because more people leech missions that have penalties because they know people would be much less likely to leave. If people could leave without penalty their would be less leeching because more people would leave if their are leechers and the leechers would get nothing making leeching much less profitable.
  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    the problem with that is, while you are making it less profitable for leachers, you are making the STFs easier to troll. That's what happened before the penalty was implemented, people will troll STFs by leaving, either at the very start, or at a critical moment, just to TRIBBLE with the rest of the team. Plus you'll have the people who leave when the optional looks like it's gonna fail, even though the optional doesn't matter anymore, (it never did, really, because the prototypes never dropped in the optional bag anyway) but people still think it makes a difference.
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  • roman1229roman1229 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lysandermarcellus wrote: »
    IMO the leaver penalty should be 24 hours for the STF that you left, 5 hours for all STFs and 1 hour for every other PvE queue

    Oh, and it should also be an account wide timer.

    Worried you'll get wrongfully pinned with it because you have a crappy internet connection? Well, too bad. Get out of the stone-age.

    And those that have a good net connection and get kicked because of the game are also screwed. But since that was none of our fault we need to get out of the stone age.

    Some things would work so much better if people just thought before they commented.
  • chushachusha Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lysandermarcellus wrote: »

    Worried you'll get wrongfully pinned with it because you have a crappy internet connection? Well, too bad. Get out of the stone-age.

    Stone age? That would be the land of floppy disks, sneaker net, thin net, fat net, token ring, coax networks, and dial up modems... OH GOT THE HORRORS!!

    And things happen to internet connections. Networks lag, routers go bad, modems die, and power blips, brownouts, and outages happen.

    Even with a battery backup system running my PC and home network all it takes for those of us not in a location with underground utilities is a single tree branch, tree, speeding lunatic, drunk driver, or forces of nature to cause a disruption in utilities. And by utilities I mean phone/DSL/ADSL/fiber optic, cable TV/internet, and power.


    Things happen, Murphy comes over for a visit, and just accept the fact that while YOU may have an internet connection that others dream about, YOU must pause and think about those of us who may not have the most stable always available connections. I had to live with dial up for years, NEVER getting above 26.4kb due to old paper insulated phone lines. Then in 2002... Adelphia dropped broadband service, which was about as stable as a drunk one legged giraffe. In 2003 Adelphia had managed to "fix" their network, later actually fixing it before becoming Comcast. Even today I still have issues with the Comcast internet service.


    It even took my area 11 years to get even a single bar of cellular service. Now my area gets two bars of service, and I don't even have to go out to the end of my driveway to fish for a cellular signal like in the past.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    tpalelena wrote: »
    I think the leaver penalty needs to be removed completely.

    Because if its removed, afk leechers will no longer be able to troll so badly.
    AFK leechers are just there for free loot with no effort, removing the penalty won't change anything, and a vote kick system would only work in a perfect world where there are no idiots that kick people for stupid reasons, anything that can be abused, will be abused. For AFKers some mechanism needs to be implemented so that zero effort equals zero reward, that will be the only thing that will discourage AFKers.
    The leaver penalty is working exactly as it should, it's an appropriate reward for selfishness and betrayal, in fact it may be too lenient.
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  • theodrimtheodrim Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You know, if someone's AFK in an ESTF or nerd-raging over an optional failure, the last thing the people actually contributing need is a bunch of spheres, probes, assimilated ships, and cubes beating them up while they're actually trying to do objectives. So, I'm a pretty nice guy and do the right thing -- I'll pop an FaW, torpedo volley, and evasive maneuvers and get the excess of enemy ships as far away from the team as possible. Crowd control is crowd control, no matter how you control them, and managing pulls is a great way to control crowds!

    If that great big group of enemy ships just happens to end up within firing range of someone who could have easily avoided them or fought them off had they been paying attention in the first place...oops, my bad. Lesson learned, I guess, shame on me for not paying attention to where I was pulling that inordinately large group of very angry Borg. I was just trying to help! :)
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  • vaewenvaewen Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    AFK leechers are just there for free loot with no effort, removing the penalty won't change anything, and a vote kick system would only work in a perfect world where there are no idiots that kick people for stupid reasons, anything that can be abused, will be abused. For AFKers some mechanism needs to be implemented so that zero effort equals zero reward, that will be the only thing that will discourage AFKers.
    The leaver penalty is working exactly as it should, it's an appropriate reward for selfishness and betrayal, in fact it may be too lenient.

    Today I spend a while putting on my best anti borg equip and queue up for Khitomer in Statis.. only - just that one, because that's the one I want to play. Before long, the Engage window pops up, I click it, wait for the other players, and eventually there we are.

    One of the players teams us up,
    and suddenly the game says I will be removed from the map in 10 seconds. That long window pops up so I may leave early (which I don't want to leave AT ALL!)

    I didn't do anything to leave the map, and there's NOTHING I can do to stop it! Didn't lose Internet connection at all.

    10 seconds later, I'm back where I was before we started. I did NOTHING to leave, wasn't afk obviously... not a quitter.

    Didn't get to play the queue I signed up for and banned for 1 hour from joining or creating public queues.

    Please explain why it "should" work that way.

    See this thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=513871
  • deathspeedmkdeathspeedmk Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I try not to leave if possible unless its just lost.

    I think that the first person to leave should get the ban after than they don't

    Also I have had my wireless over heat so I got disconnected I did not get a ban for that I just rejoined when I could.

    Also Do not put in a kick button I know the game can do with it at times however you may get it aimed at you even through you are playing very well. If it does, than the "match" whatever would need to be moderated quite well to stop it being wrongly used....


    my 2 cents
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    On the contrary. A "vote to kick" button SHOULD be implemented to boot the trolls out of STFs.
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  • vaewenvaewen Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    stardestroyer001 wrote: »
    On the contrary. A "vote to kick" button SHOULD be implemented to boot the trolls out of STFs.

    You mean so that the trolls can boot the good players.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    stardestroyer001 wrote: »
    On the contrary. A "vote to kick" button SHOULD be implemented to boot the trolls out of STFs.

    There already is a Vote button...

    It's called the "Don't Click On PUGS" Option and it's available every time you open the que window.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    vaewen wrote: »
    Please explain why it "should" work that way.
    That's clearly a bug, there is no vote kick to remove you from an STF but I think that a team leader can kick you from a team with the game then mistakenly kicking you from the instance, although I'm just guessing on that. It's unfortunate that you had a 1 hour ban, but the leaver penalty such as it is is far preferable to the situation that existed before it's incorporation where we had trolls often leaving stfs early just to mess with people. It's a sad truth that we have many trolls playing this game who should be banned from playing, it's for that reason that we can't use a vote kick system, these trolls will not use it for it's intended purpose, but will sadistically abuse it just to get sick pleasure from ruining someone elses gaming experience.
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  • lex0001lex0001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    AFK leechers are just there for free loot with no effort, removing the penalty won't change anything, and a vote kick system would only work in a perfect world where there are no idiots that kick people for stupid reasons, anything that can be abused, will be abused. For AFKers some mechanism needs to be implemented so that zero effort equals zero reward, that will be the only thing that will discourage AFKers.
    The leaver penalty is working exactly as it should, it's an appropriate reward for selfishness and betrayal, in fact it may be too lenient.

    Agreed! Some sort of automatic inactivity kick for the AFKers would be nice, and a lengthy ban also
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You guys do realize that after you've spent 15 minutes on an STF map that you entered via a public queue; you can leave and NOT get the penalty (granted I haven't done it in about 3 months - and the last time I did, it was an infected Elite whee ww had a random griefer just plain (and IMO intentionally, as he was shooting Generators on the second Transformer while the rest of us were burning down the first Transformer -- and he ignored requests to stop, as one other tried to explain why he needs to wait) -- but it worked that way about 3 months ago.
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  • deathspeedmkdeathspeedmk Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    vaewen wrote: »
    You mean so that the trolls can boot the good players.



    Exactly my point. Anyone who has played CSS or other that has that, its gets abused like hell...
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