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Paying Our Way Throught The Diplomacy Doff System
thlaylierah
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Why do we have to buy our way through the Diplomacy part of the Doff system?
It seems like every mission wants credits.
It seems like every mission wants credits.
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Unless they buffed the Diplomatic XP for those missions, then anyone doing them is insane. I know they buffed the Aid the Planet missions to 100 Diplomatic XP, but the others are only at 10.
That said, I rarely encounter non combat missions.
Less rare, but close are space only missions. I sometimes feel I'm playing "Ground Trek."
Even more annoying is trying to do an Explore mission with an above level 50 Toon as all the Anomalies are invisible with the indicators on the corners of your screen. You have to sneak up on them.
Think the diplos are bad you should try the medical. I've been working on the medical ones for a year now. The stupid emh's all don't have what you need to complete the missions so you basically have to go buy the ones you need because whats-her-name at the academy keeps giving you completely useless doffs for medical missions.
And don't get me started on the crazy empty hole this part of the mission que has. You have to go into your ship for missions that give 48 xp each. The only large missions require nurses with resolve or quartermasters with efficiency or they are generally sure to fail, and the way they've setup the loot it's near impossible to get the EC you need anymore so what's there to give you any cash to actually fund the good missions? Nothing because they even took away the good quick loot missions from the foundry.
Soooo why is this considered fun again? Have the devs actually played thru these or did they just set their own character's scores to max because I'm quite sure no one over there has touched these missions in the current setup. It's supposed to be a challenge but it's not supposed to take two years to finish I'm sure.
Let me know if I'm missing some miraculous mission that actually gives adequate EC for these missions or some location that has serious medical missions that dont require purples to complete.
Two years? I rolled a brand new Cardassian custom alien last March. I had Diplomacy maxed by summer and everything maxed by around Thanksgiving. The big trick is to focus on assignments which have a good rate of payout, which is generally 20 hour assignments... But then in clusters, do the chains and look out for assignments with abnormally high payout, usually 15-30 minute assignments.
I also tended to focus almost exclusively on 1-2 categories at a time.
You can net maybe 750k an hour in vendored items if you just focus on killing endgame or tough mobs, without resorting to any special tricks aside from moving on when the Foundry stops dropping loot.
Yup. Always have. This has never changed.
I have three top tier diplomat characters. All of them capped prior to DOFFs existing. It's not that hard at all. Could take a weekend of dedicated exploration mission farming. You end up utilizing Jiro a lot to A) Guarantee a diplo XP giving mission every 15 minutes or so and
Toss in the diplo missions that debuted with diplomacy (jumja stick or O'Brien at Memory Alpha) and the other intricate non-combat missions you find in patrols and as missions, and it's really pretty simple.
Scanning 5 alien artifacts is pretty fast and easy, so just collect them and discard the combat exploration missions. Mix in the other stuff to break the monotony and viola, you'll be a diplomat in no time.
When we needed about 1300 Diplomatic XP to get to Tier 4, then those missions were viable. But getting only 10 XP per mission when we need 100,000 makes it not a good choice. About 90% of a person's progress will come from assignments assuming they make an effort to do diplomatic missions.
Most of the other mission types do not other than the trade missions and those would make sense.
Hey, it's the way I did it and had fun. Of course that was before the DOff system. Ambassador Emeritus, wish I had that for a title instead of just Federation Ambassador only. Ah well. 2 Orion Slave Girls almost makes up for it.
Thanks, I was looking for DOFFing advice.
Depends on the casualness of the player. Someone that can only log on once a day for an hour or two at the most would do better with the 20 hour assignments while people that are on too much would do better with the shorter assignments.
all 6 of my VAs have max Diplomacy, and i cant think of any point where i went "Damn i need some EC for this mission"
In general, I'd like to see all the commendation categories overhauled as reps... But then keep the DOff assignments as an added source of reputation.
I think the DOff system is going to need a pretty sizable overhaul in the not too distant future anyway, maybe alongside an exploration revamp.
Money buys everything, and missions reflect thoose who made them, and what appeals to them... Go figure.
Diplomacy is on the lower end but there are worse.
Doffing is all about time management and calculating rewards. If you log in once a day for 2 hours or less, then you take 20 hour missions or other high pay outs, don't expect to get anywhere fast. But if you want to excel, you can log in for 10 mins first thing in the morning, quickly Doff, and log out, giving you the ability to do 4hr and 8hr missions twice in a day. Or if you log on for 4hrs in a night, then do the 2-4 hr missions when you first log on, then do 20hrs before you leave.
Unlocking chains is important, and doing the gold/resolve missions is often the best xp/time. When your doffs are decent, don't let the first officer recommendations fool you, apparently your first officer has brain damage, that or someone who programmed the recommendations didn't get Doffing in the slightest.
Trade is the worst, there are virtually no high xp missions, because you always get trade goods instead of xp. Its a very small step consistent grind.
Recruitment is bad too, but there are a handful of good xp missions, most unlocked by chains. Though down grinding dozens of cheap blue doffs is good xp if you are rich
Exploration is terrible unless you have research lab doffs. The 20 hr missions are the only decent xp that thing has, there is almost no variety (except the abandoned warship one) because they all take research doffs, have the same payout and same risk and chance of success.
Diplomacy just isn't efficient, which is the issue. There are decent 20 hour missions, but if you look around there are far better xp/time missions anywhere else all the time than those. The 6h entertain diplomats is one of the best ones it has, which costs 1000ec.
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It took some time, and I don't relish doing it again on alts, but in all it really wasn't that bad, because I got most of it while I was still enthralled with the doff system. Now it would be a bit more painful, as I'm not nearly as entertained when I'm out doffing.
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Which diplomatic missions have you been running?
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