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What about the Hirogen?

erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Greetings All,

Ok so we know that the new Romulan Faction will contain Romulan and Remans but what about the Hirogen?

In the current story line aren't the Hirogen more or less aligned with the Romulans so why are they not being included has playable Captain Options within the Romulan Faction?

I'm not a huge fan of the Hirogens but I'd like to see the Romulan Faction have more than only 2 races when it gets launched and the Hirogen would fit the bill.

Adding the Hirogen to the Romulan Faction would also mean that there would be more ships available for Cryptic to offer in the Z-Store.

I'm not sure how it would look to have a Hirogen captain flying a Romulan ship but I'm sure that it could be explained with a text box or something.

IMO the Hirogen to the Romulans would be like the Nausicaans are to the KDF.

Rebuilding and Empire will take a lot of manpower and the Romulans would be trying to take advantage of every resource that they could get.

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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    "Hirogen?" "We don't need no stinkin' Hirogen..." ;)
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    If you didn't join the Romulans to be a true blooded Romulan, then why are you even here!?

    I would argue that even Remans should not be allowed, for they are lowly, unworthy slaves.
    Romulan Republic for Romulans!
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    "Hirogen?" "We don't need no stinkin' Hirogen..." ;)

    I agree.....however......well we all know that they are coming and no matter how much you kick, scream or struggle Cryptic will just ignore the protests and have its way with our poor.....bleh, Republic.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    errab wrote: »
    so why are they not being included has playable Captain Options within the Romulan Faction?
    Admiral Janeway got them to promise not to join forces with the Republic or the Iconians.
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    Admiral Janeway got them to promise not to join forces with the Republic or the Iconians.

    Isn't "Breaking promises to Janeway" the number 3 favourite Hirogen pastime behind hunting/killing and standing around admiring their trophies?
  • ricorosebudricorosebud Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Why not Zoidberg?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    I would argue that even Remans should not be allowed, for they are lowly, unworthy slaves.
    Romulan Republic for Romulans!
    I'll go you one step further. I'd suggest Cryptic add a new space trait to Remans. One that boosts the duration and damage of Attack Patterns. And then remove them from the Republic. So that only those on the fed and KDF who have the Reman boff can get the bonus.

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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    I agree.....however......well we all know that they are coming and no matter how much you kick, scream or struggle Cryptic will just ignore the protests and have its way with our poor.....bleh, Republic.

    Options are ALWAYS good for the game, for Cryptic and the community. ;)
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ricorosebud wrote: »
    Why not Zoidberg?

    IP Copyright issues... :(

    And none of our ships controls support being used by a race with only claws instead of fingers... :(
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    IP Copyright issues... :(

    And none of our ships controls support being used by a race with only claws instead of fingers... :(

    Have you SEEN Reman hands?
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ricorosebud wrote: »
    Why not Zoidberg?

    Sure the Romulans can have Zoidberg has long has the KDF can have Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth and the Feds get 25-Star General Zapp Brannigan :P
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  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,060 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    errab wrote: »
    Sure the Romulans can have Zoidberg has long has the KDF can have Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth and the Feds get 25-Star General Zapp Brannigan :P

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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The one problem I run into with the Hirogen joining the Republic is the fact their treaty was with Sela, not anyone involved in this new faction.

    I was one of those vehemently supporting Hirogen as a playable C-Store race, but that was under the assumption the Romulan faction was the RSE under Sela. While I still think it could work, it would be harder to justify with existing story.

    New story content might make it possible, but as it stands? I don't see it happening, and I am rather disappointed by that.
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  • d3cubedd3cubed Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It depends. If the Romulan faction is the New Romulus group, then no, the Hirogen don't make sense. If they are the remenant of the Empire, them yes, the Hirogen certainly should be added.

    And don't forget that Liberated Borg and Joined Trill will (probably) also be available to the rommies.
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Because the Hirogen were a poorly thought-out storyline gimmick that Cryptic threw in to make a few things more interesting. I doubt they're ready to expand upon that, since the Hirogen are supposed to be a primarily Delta quadrant species, with a bit of spillover into either unexplored Gamma or Beta quadrant space.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    jexsamx wrote: »
    The one problem I run into with the Hirogen joining the Republic is the fact their treaty was with Sela, not anyone involved in this new faction.

    I was one of those vehemently supporting Hirogen as a playable C-Store race, but that was under the assumption the Romulan faction was the RSE under Sela. While I still think it could work, it would be harder to justify with existing story.

    New story content might make it possible, but as it stands? I don't see it happening, and I am rather disappointed by that.
    I'm currently of the opinion that the Romulan Republic was Sela's idea. We know Sela hates the Tal Shiar, and one of the stated reasons for the formation of the republic is to oppose the Tal Shiar.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    d3cubed wrote: »
    It depends. If the Romulan faction is the New Romulus group, then no, the Hirogen don't make sense.
    That's kind of harsh. Blaming the new Romulus group for the failings of Voyager's writing staff? The Hirogen make little to no sense because of the show's writers! Not the Romulans!

    ;)
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    jexsamx wrote: »
    The one problem I run into with the Hirogen joining the Republic is the fact their treaty was with Sela, not anyone involved in this new faction.

    I was one of those vehemently supporting Hirogen as a playable C-Store race, but that was under the assumption the Romulan faction was the RSE under Sela. While I still think it could work, it would be harder to justify with existing story.

    New story content might make it possible, but as it stands? I don't see it happening, and I am rather disappointed by that.
    I think the Republic will still be Sela's. She may have seen proof of the Tal Shiar/Taris betrayal, and redirected most of her usual hatred against them. She never really loved the Tal Shiar anyway.
    The Hirogens follow both the Tal Shiar (seen on new Romulus) and Sela. They may join the Republic to. Just give them a new hologram technology or hunting ground, and they'll be happy.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I really don't see the Hirogen being part of the Romulan Republic since they likely agreed to so they could hunt the Federation and the Klingons (worthy prey) than bother fighting Romulan discidents and cleaning up after people.
    erei1 wrote: »
    I think the Republic will still be Sela's. She may have seen proof of the Tal Shiar/Taris betrayal, and redirected most of her usual hatred against them. She never really loved the Tal Shiar anyway.
    The Hirogens follow both the Tal Shiar (seen on new Romulus) and Sela. They may join the Republic to. Just give them a new hologram technology or hunting ground, and they'll be happy.

    Wouldn't make sense since she is the Empress.
  • kiriseekirisee Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    hi all,

    soo much speculation on the forums now hehe....but really, we don't know anything more than the little bit that was on the LoR page, and that wasn't alot of info.

    We don't/might not know all the races yet, or what missions, or starbases, or doffing missions, or homeworld/starbase, etc etc...we just have to wait and see what our Roluman (Cryptic) masters have in store for us....be patient and have fun LOL
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Adding the Hirogen to the Romulan Faction would also mean that there would be more ships available for Cryptic to offer in the Z-Store.

    I'd speculate that we're going to see playable Hirogen, Hirogen Boffs and perhaps a Hirogen ship bundle in the c-store once the faction launches, the same way Ferasan or Caitians were brought into Fed/KDF.
    I really don't see the Hirogen being part of the Romulan Republic [...]

    Who would have thought or imagined that Orions, Letheans, Gorn and the Klingons joined up and formed a "Klingeration" and became friends with Dosi and Wadi before STO launched? ;)
  • matixzonmatixzon Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Honestly, The romulans are one of the big powers in the galaxy, It always seemed implausible to me for they to achieve such a expanse without absorbing other species under their rule.
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    matixzon wrote: »
    Honestly, The romulans are one of the big powers in the galaxy, It always seemed implausible to me for they to achieve such a expanse without absorbing other species under their rule.

    Sure, as slaves, serfs and subjects. Not as members of the Romulan military.
    The multi-species alliance is supposed to be the Federation's hat. Why must every faction have to wear it?
  • evendzharevendzhar Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ricorosebud wrote: »
    Why not Zoidberg?
    Hooray for Zoidberg!
  • d3cubedd3cubed Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    That's kind of harsh. Blaming the new Romulus group for the failings of Voyager's writing staff? The Hirogen make little to no sense because of the show's writers! Not the Romulans!

    ;)

    Well played, my Snoggy Friend :cool:
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  • d3cubedd3cubed Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    Sure, as slaves, serfs and subjects. Not as members of the Romulan military.
    The multi-species alliance is supposed to be the Federation's hat. Why must every faction have to wear it?

    I have no issue with subject races serving on ships of the "head" race. It's something that we should have seen in the TV show because, honestly, there would have to be a crapload of the "head" race to run the entire military alone. Having subject races command ships is more of an issue for me--although I do think they've done a good job justifiying it for the Gorn and Orions at least.
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  • matixzonmatixzon Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It would have made more sense for slaves to be who fight in the military for the Empire instead of the romulan, If this republic is made from the leftovers of the empire, I wouldn't be surprised if some slave species "freed themselves" in the chaos, and help the empire in exchange for equal rights, I mean, The remans are also servants, yet we will be able to play as them.
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  • sernonserculionsernonserculion Member Posts: 750 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Good news everyone! There already is a Federation of assorted Aliens bunched up together! Proceed there, and mingle!

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  • virgilpluton999virgilpluton999 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    d3cubed wrote: »
    I have no issue with subject races serving on ships of the "head" race. It's something that we should have seen in the TV show because, honestly, there would have to be a crapload of the "head" race to run the entire military alone. Having subject races command ships is more of an issue for me--although I do think they've done a good job justifiying it for the Gorn and Orions at least.

    Not only that, but historically on Earth, every empire takes whoever into their force at some point. You guys think everyone who ever served in the Roman Legion was ethnically a Roman? Or that everyone that served in the British empires military was British? In the beginning, yes they were. But at the apogee of their power? Nope. They took everyone who was useful. Because as long as someone is willing to be culturally a member of your Empire and support it, no one cares who their mother is. Not until the modern era did ideas about race, that child of biblical beliefs and a total misunderstanding of Darwin, make cultural membership secondary.

    So, yes, I expect a large power block like the Klingons and the Romulans to have different races in their military. They would have a very poor military otherwise; they wouldn't be taking the best, they'd be taking anyone they could get that was racially appropriate, including those who have no talent for military matters and/or are total fools.

    Which explains a lot about the TV shows and movies now that I think about it.

    Yeah, ok, never mind.
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