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vamank
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I am getting really fed up of getting killed in STFs by this UBER Borg Plasma Torpedo. Its quite frustrating to have full shields and hull and have this thing hit you and one hit kill you or cripple you and you die a minute later.
Can this please be addressed?
Can this please be addressed?
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There are ways to survive, but ill admit the torps are kinda annoying
Instantly killed.
I don't mind a high level enemy like a Tactical Cube doing a ton of damage, but it needs to be spread out at least a little so I have time to respond! Even escorts shouldn't be blowing up from single hits as a gameplay mechanic; by all means kill them under pressure, but right now it's such pot luck that even a well built tank can't guarantee survival since the damage varies so wildly.
Game Balance - Ship Size and Wingmates
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Really? You're kidding, right?
Beam Fire at Will
Eject Warp Plasma
Evasive Maneuvers
Tractor Beam Repulsors
Cannon Scatter Volley
Torpedo Spread
or just clicking on it and shooting the damn thing straight up by staying 3km away instead of snuggling right up to the cube. I do that in my cruiser, but that's because I spam BFAW and TBR alternating so that I can't get hit by a HYT.
The real problem is those invisible shot, most ppl called them invisitorp, but they are heavy cannon hits. But than again, they never come alone, first one will take down facing shield, second or third hit will get you if you haven't reacted in time. And once in a while it will crit thrue shield but that rarely happens.
E'Mc2 : Science Reman torp T'Varo, deadly annoyance :P
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Granted the Borg SHOULD be hard, but this is rediculous.
I've seen REGULAR cubes do this.
I could see this maybe from a tactical cube, or from one of the Fusion cubes in Armada 2, but a normal run of the mill cube? Don't think so.
Yes, the Borg should be HARD.
But this isn't hard, it's just them being overpowered.
Instead of increasing the enemy AI to make them a challenge, Cryptic instead cranked the holy heck out of the enemy Damage output.
Heavy Torpedoes can be shot down, thus, it's not overpowered. Also, outside of Voyager's End Game episode, how many times have you seen a single ship take out a Borg cube easily? Or even 5 ships take out a single cube?
It's impossible to prepare for an incoming hit when you can't even see it coming in. If it is a bug, it needs to be addressed. If it is a matter of video settings, which one is it? I cannot believe this is working as intended.
Donatra's Torpedo Spread is another example, the visual animation or the torps do not coincide with the impact as you get hit way before they reach you in many cases.
That said, yes, the borg do tend to get in some cheap shots every now and then. I've gotten insta-popped three times in a row on a run before. It sucked, but honestly, that's probably the only way I really end up dying in STFs these days - even elite Donatra hasn't actually popped me in.. I don't remember how long... (knock on wood)
what is the point of haing 12 sets and have get the one shot
that's great when you can see the damn thing and target it.
Moro's advise is sound. I too, tend to hug the Cubes and Gates in Elite but I'm well guarded by AoE. Another tactic I tend to us a lot is nose dive strafes attacks on the top of the cube...either tactic requires a tractor beam break like evasive, polarize hull, omega. Getting stopped point blank on a cube is a sure fire way to make a near deadly torp a sure fire kill.
Not true. Bfaw, Torp Spread, TBR's, PSW, even eject warp plasma will kill a torp that is invisible or not outside the hull of the cube that fired it.
there's no defense against a weapon that you cannot see and the only functional defense is to run away whenever you get the cube's aggro.
I was referring simply to the insane amount of damage they're capable of, not how easy they can be to deal with.
Now, Blowing up because you suffered "260k ??? Damage" to the hull that's some serious bull flop.
ANd yes, this has happened to me before. The damage type was "???".
It's like I was space killed by a dang Missingno.
An early version of a tac captain had no developed threat as a skill. That version experienced much of the pain described in this thread. As he went through successive RESPEC builds, and threat as a skill was added, the problem of the Uber torpedo seemed to be relegated to others.
My engineering captain runs a tank, so threat was always part of the skill build. Same goes for my sci captain, although at a much lower level. In both cases, easily 200+ STF's no problem with the Uber torpedo. The one hit kills (against me) never happened, or at least I have not seen it.
I have been running ACT most games as I track my ships development and builds.
Wild Guess: Could there be a connection with the level of intrinsic threat developed as a skill and who gets targeted?
I ran a little test with a KDF Tac captain, RESPEC'ing him to no threat as a skill. Over the first 10 STF's I experienced 3 sudden unexplained deaths. One was definitely an Uber torp (thank you ACT), while the other two are debatable. RESPEC'ing him back to a moderate threat level, and I have not experienced the Uber torpedo since.
It's hard to say who gets targeted for the Uber torpedo and why.
We do know that targeting choices by gates are modified by who is generating damage. As groups go I play with same people over and over, and for the most part they have threat as a skill AND have above average dps. They don't seem to be affected by Uber torps either.
Observation: Players with developed threat skill appear to be hit less often than those with zero developed threat skill.
Anecdotal conclusion: There does seem to be a correlation between having no developed threat and the likelihood of being hit by the Uber torpedo.
Anyone else notice this?
I notice the opposite, that's why i return to my old skill set without treath, while it doesn't stopped the problem it seems to make it more unlikely
By the way I just started to use my fighters on escort mode when i'm attacking the gates and tac cubes (lastly i fly the heavy escort carrier, both the fed an the jem), i suppose they are doing their job, because i haven't been killed in one hit since then
In every place,
The deeds of men remain the same..."
1. Torp should always be seen.
2. Damage should be heavy but not one shot one kill heavy. You should be able to survive with about 10% hull. Yes I know people and ships have different builds.
3. More pressure damage from cubes. Make people cycle there heals and back off or cross heal. I only heal a person if they have aggro from the cube or gate.
4. Encourage cross ship teams. The concept of dps rules needs to go. It is sad that most people push a five escort team just to get it over with. Objectives should be able to be done by any class or ship type but, get rid of dps is the answer for STFs.
5. Add threat to ships specs, it could be based off hull size. Keep the players ability to spec into threat. Lets face it if the Borg had pressure damage and it took a cruiser to tank it out to allow escorts to stay alive, this would give a reason for cruisers to be in STFs.
These are a few suggestions. They can be tweaked and modified but there is more improvements to be done.
1. They aren't shot after every 5 seconds. Things could have been worst :P
2. Get yourself engineering console that can resist against such torpedoes. (can't remember the name)
3. Use hazard emitter because the radiation fire/burn of that thing is the killer.
4. Brace for impact. Love it, learn it and use it.
I usually survive it in my Krenn destroyer but I do have to admit that my hull goes to 30% - 35% followed by big red numbers coming out of my ship.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Ohhh... So Brace For Impact... Ooooobhhh... And that engineering console... Suuure... I'm sure you missed my post where I said I was in a Fleet Excelsior and got hit for 350k damage... I run a dual aux2batt build, maybe I'll find room for this "hazard emitter" you speak of and that 350k damage problem will be solved...
On HOE, I expect BS because of the brick wall made of of tax cubes... But when you're on ISE and 12 kms from the gate and are instakilled for no apparent reason, that's pretty douchetastic... I think some of you are talking about the laughably easy to destroy Borg high yield torpedo and others are talking about the invisible grim reaper that doesn't care who or where you, you're simply goingto die...
Not to pick on you, but your advice was hazard emitters... That's like sayg b an umbrella, its raining...