To all of you degrading Akurie666's credit as a debator, it is because he always leaves on the weekends. I've been keeping up his argument, as when one has no computer, it is impossible to continue on an argument that one made. And, to all of you TROLLS, Exaggeration is a form of debate.
Thanks for saying this, primarily because it's the truth. A casual reading of this forum would indicate that there are NO cruisers or sci ships in this game, only escorts.
The remedy for this mass hallucination is to nerf escorts, giving their DPS to cruisers, and remove all healing ability, thereby FORCING escorts to depend on other players for their survival. Utterly selfish AND self-absorbed? You betcha!
This is not exactly the point that Akurie666 was trying to make. Escorts do need to be nerfed, in terms of their healing, but not totally. They can keep their DPS, but maybe half their healing ability, and give that half to sci ships and cruisers, and then nerf the self healing sci ships and cruisers do, forcing team play.
I have played this game since launch. I quit Wow for this game. I love Star Trek, but I find my self with one foot out the door and looking towards new mmo games.
This game puts 0 emphasis on team play. Tacs can tank and heal themselves very well. Why would anyone play anything besides a tac and use an escort anymore? This has allowed for a single class to be universal in capibility and the other classes have become laughable.
Why don't we have a form of team balance? Has this community, many player fresh to gaming I might add, complain on the forums until the difficulty of the game has been eradicated? I have never met a community with such an aversion to being challenged. They exploit foundry problems more than play the game. They seek the high score but do not seem to enjoy the journey.
Most of the players I meet on this game are not remotley team player minded. I play sports in real life so I know a thing or two about being a team player. But, the community of this game has likely never even touched a basket ball or paintball gun and only want the ego boost having the rewards bring them at minimal cost and skill.
I'm tired of playing alone dispite I am in a full group. I'm tired of people laughing at the tanking role because their escort can tank and dps and heal themself at the same time. I do not understand the mentality of these players who think that this is an okay recipie for a team based game.
I am looking forward to Neverwinter but fear if it is more of the same I will just find something else to do with my time at home.
I don't understand... What was the point of this post? Was it to get attention, was it a "goodbye post", were you angry with developers choices... Seriously, I'm not trying to harp on you or anything but, it'd be more constructive if your post had a clear and concise point rather then being.... Well, all this :rolleyes:
Fell free to drop me a line for anything! @jonnyreload :biggrin:
This is not exactly the point that Akurie666 was trying to make.
Nor was I trying to address anything the OP said directly.
Escorts do need to be nerfed, in terms of their healing, but not totally.
I know, just enough to make them no fun at all to fly. I've read it all before.
They can keep their DPS, but maybe half their healing ability,...
Variations on a theme. Others here have prayed for something more extreme, as I said.
and give that half to sci ships and cruisers, and then nerf the self healing sci ships and cruisers do, forcing team play.
Team play is already present, most of the time. Pretending that once escorts have been made utterly dependent upon other classes to survive, the milk and honey will start to flow and things will be perfect is wrong. An environment like this would alter an essential aspect of the game in a negative way. That's why it isn't going to happen.
Again, most of the whining is coming from cruiser types who want escort DPS and turnrate PLUS the inherent benefits of being in a cruiser. One person even came right out and admitted it.
This is not exactly the point that Akurie666 was trying to make. Escorts do need to be nerfed, in terms of their healing, but not totally. They can keep their DPS, but maybe half their healing ability, and give that half to sci ships and cruisers, and then nerf the self healing sci ships and cruisers do, forcing team play.
Not going to happen.
If you want required team play then go play a different game.
This game started as an mmo which players could play by themselves without the requirement to group play. It's not a broken system, it is the INTENDED system and they aren't going to rethink it now and alienate the players whom have been here since day one supporting the game to appease a vocal minority.
I'm not susggesting that this is good or bad, I'll save my opinion, but I think if you believe that they are going to change the model three plus years into the game's life cycle then it is likely that you are going to be disappointed.
Furthermore, they do have Elite stf's which do require some degree of group cooperation. Just because an escort can 'get by' without help with healing (depending on the ship and build) doesn't mean that the team is not working together as a team.
you are just jealous of my sig cuz I made physical contact with a female... something you will never do.
Which is the female?
Is it the one with the 80s supermodel sunglasses and homeless grandmother stubble? Cuz if so, that ain't nothing to be proud of mate.
On topic, no the game is not perfect and there is a dearth of endgame content. So it is with a lot of MMOs. Do what the rest of us do, stop playing for a few months and come back when there's something new out.
My guess is "hope" keeps people not playing but posting on the forums. For others, its a path of sad realization and closure. Grieving takes time. The worst "haters" here love the game, or did at some point.
I do not blame the Keys for my crafting woes . Here's why :
Crafting in essence has not been updated since launch of the game .
Look at it ! Everything is Mk 11 . That is STO 2009 .
Some information that needs to be given:
1- Crafting has been revamped twice so far since launch.
2- STO Came out in 2010.
3- When STO launched, Mk X was the highest available level for an item. Mk XI didn't come out until the debut of the Pelia sector.
From an entirely personal (and possibly selfish) POV please leave my escort alone.
Enough of the game lately is pushing me into 'team' activities that I neither enjoy or am inclined to embrace whatever the motivation. Joining a normal stf for Omega marks so that I can get pretty things is pure torture as far as I am concerned. Romulous will have fallen twice more before I finally get my MACO shield.
What I do enjoy is solo play. PVE. That is why I play. I don't mind socialising and do enjoy seeing other peeps milling around doing their thing but primarily I want to mission alone with my crew. If I mess up I am happy to laugh at my own ineptitude but I don't enjoy the feeling that I messed up someone else's game or enjoyment....therefore I solo.
Until very recently I really had no clue what I was doing but spent some time reading the hillbert guide and researching other peeps posted builds, spent some time grinding for better stuff for my ship and hey presto am having the most fun I ever had. I don't imagine I am the only person who plays this way either.
I may not be entering into the spirit of things in a true MMO sense but neither am I hurting anyone else either.
I don't get the knee jerk reaction from some players that when something impacts on their own playstyle the obvious answer is to nerf other peeps way of playing to equal levels of frustration. That is never a good strategy imho.
Rather argue for a separate and entirely new mechanic for PVP. I would support that even though it would never affect me ....in fact precisely because it would never affect me.
I want you to enjoy what you are doing too but would rather find a way for you to achieve that without it being entirely at my expense.
Well as a very new player to STO I have to admit that as soon as I reached level 50 on one character, I was inclined to delete my character so I would not have to spend cash for another slot and start over again....why? because it was boring as soon as I got there and I was hoping to go with a different class, maybe science or engineering and what I found was that was a complete waste of my time...
I hope the new Romulan expansion adds some good new story content and fun to the game but I won't be holding my breath on that one either. If they only had more interesting missions like the federation one that starts with "Spin the Wheel" I won't say much about it because of spoilers and such but I am sure most of you know what I am talking about.
Every mission should be as engaging as that one was...STF's included.
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This is not exactly the point that Akurie666 was trying to make. Escorts do need to be nerfed, in terms of their healing, but not totally. They can keep their DPS, but maybe half their healing ability, and give that half to sci ships and cruisers, and then nerf the self healing sci ships and cruisers do, forcing team play.
Escorts ESCORT
you don't see any proper starfleet flag officers toodling about in VW bugs
That is not a viable option and we both know it.
I don't understand... What was the point of this post? Was it to get attention, was it a "goodbye post", were you angry with developers choices... Seriously, I'm not trying to harp on you or anything but, it'd be more constructive if your post had a clear and concise point rather then being.... Well, all this :rolleyes:
Nor was I trying to address anything the OP said directly.
I know, just enough to make them no fun at all to fly. I've read it all before.
Variations on a theme. Others here have prayed for something more extreme, as I said.
Team play is already present, most of the time. Pretending that once escorts have been made utterly dependent upon other classes to survive, the milk and honey will start to flow and things will be perfect is wrong. An environment like this would alter an essential aspect of the game in a negative way. That's why it isn't going to happen.
Again, most of the whining is coming from cruiser types who want escort DPS and turnrate PLUS the inherent benefits of being in a cruiser. One person even came right out and admitted it.
Not going to happen.
If you want required team play then go play a different game.
This game started as an mmo which players could play by themselves without the requirement to group play. It's not a broken system, it is the INTENDED system and they aren't going to rethink it now and alienate the players whom have been here since day one supporting the game to appease a vocal minority.
I'm not susggesting that this is good or bad, I'll save my opinion, but I think if you believe that they are going to change the model three plus years into the game's life cycle then it is likely that you are going to be disappointed.
Furthermore, they do have Elite stf's which do require some degree of group cooperation. Just because an escort can 'get by' without help with healing (depending on the ship and build) doesn't mean that the team is not working together as a team.
Which is the female?
Is it the one with the 80s supermodel sunglasses and homeless grandmother stubble? Cuz if so, that ain't nothing to be proud of mate.
On topic, no the game is not perfect and there is a dearth of endgame content. So it is with a lot of MMOs. Do what the rest of us do, stop playing for a few months and come back when there's something new out.
Some information that needs to be given:
1- Crafting has been revamped twice so far since launch.
2- STO Came out in 2010.
3- When STO launched, Mk X was the highest available level for an item. Mk XI didn't come out until the debut of the Pelia sector.
He isn't debating anything, he mass insulted most of the community to provoke people
No it isn't, and calling everyone else a troll while defending the insults the OP threw out says quite a bit about you
Enough of the game lately is pushing me into 'team' activities that I neither enjoy or am inclined to embrace whatever the motivation. Joining a normal stf for Omega marks so that I can get pretty things is pure torture as far as I am concerned. Romulous will have fallen twice more before I finally get my MACO shield.
What I do enjoy is solo play. PVE. That is why I play. I don't mind socialising and do enjoy seeing other peeps milling around doing their thing but primarily I want to mission alone with my crew. If I mess up I am happy to laugh at my own ineptitude but I don't enjoy the feeling that I messed up someone else's game or enjoyment....therefore I solo.
Until very recently I really had no clue what I was doing but spent some time reading the hillbert guide and researching other peeps posted builds, spent some time grinding for better stuff for my ship and hey presto am having the most fun I ever had. I don't imagine I am the only person who plays this way either.
I may not be entering into the spirit of things in a true MMO sense but neither am I hurting anyone else either.
I don't get the knee jerk reaction from some players that when something impacts on their own playstyle the obvious answer is to nerf other peeps way of playing to equal levels of frustration. That is never a good strategy imho.
Rather argue for a separate and entirely new mechanic for PVP. I would support that even though it would never affect me ....in fact precisely because it would never affect me.
I want you to enjoy what you are doing too but would rather find a way for you to achieve that without it being entirely at my expense.
Well said, every word.
I hope the new Romulan expansion adds some good new story content and fun to the game but I won't be holding my breath on that one either. If they only had more interesting missions like the federation one that starts with "Spin the Wheel" I won't say much about it because of spoilers and such but I am sure most of you know what I am talking about.
Every mission should be as engaging as that one was...STF's included.
1- Start a brand new free account. And just use that?
2- Spend Dilithium to purchase zen to then purchase another slot?