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Cruiser > Escort (for me)
macronius
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Okay, I am not trying to start a flame war and I am still relatively new to the game. I started back in September. But for whatever reason I am having tons more fun flying my cruisers than escort. I started with a tac / escort, played it for months, and spent some time tweaking it with the best build(researched) and purple XI and XII fleet gear.
I started my engineer / cruiser and at first it was slow going. However, once I started going up the ranks from lt cmdr and getting the boffs and powers it was pure awesome sauce. I have had no problems scoring 1st and 2nd place consistently in fleet actions. I can even do it if I come in late into the action. I even had a couple of fun PvP sessions in my brand new Sovereign.
No such luck on my escorts. I am obviously using boffs, maneuvering, stacking the consoles and tetryon heavy cannons, etc. Now I will grant you that I can't hope to match the mad skills of LTS or their OP gear. But still there is something about escorts that rubs me the wrong way. I think it is the aft weapons. They mostly go useless for me. The best I have done is to put a mines, quantum launcher and turret. If I have a perfect run where I soften the shields with tachyon, cannon fire, aceton and then turn around and hit it with a volley of torpedos (torpedo spread). Thus I can pop a cruiser in one pass. But this happens only with a perfect run.
Okay, so I spoke my piece ... and cruisers rule!
I started my engineer / cruiser and at first it was slow going. However, once I started going up the ranks from lt cmdr and getting the boffs and powers it was pure awesome sauce. I have had no problems scoring 1st and 2nd place consistently in fleet actions. I can even do it if I come in late into the action. I even had a couple of fun PvP sessions in my brand new Sovereign.
No such luck on my escorts. I am obviously using boffs, maneuvering, stacking the consoles and tetryon heavy cannons, etc. Now I will grant you that I can't hope to match the mad skills of LTS or their OP gear. But still there is something about escorts that rubs me the wrong way. I think it is the aft weapons. They mostly go useless for me. The best I have done is to put a mines, quantum launcher and turret. If I have a perfect run where I soften the shields with tachyon, cannon fire, aceton and then turn around and hit it with a volley of torpedos (torpedo spread). Thus I can pop a cruiser in one pass. But this happens only with a perfect run.
Okay, so I spoke my piece ... and cruisers rule!
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If you're comfortable with your Cruiser, have fun flying it, and still contribute during team gameplay, by all means fly it. Elitists who come down on players who aren't in an Escort are morons who forgot rule #1 about gaming - it's all about the fun. The world will not end if you miss an optional in an ESTF, it doesn't matter one bit to the rest of world that you can run Infected in less than 6 minutes, and the rage that some people throw out is, well, inconceivable (Yes, I know what that word means).
Wow...got a bit off topic there...set course back where we started:
It boils down to this, if you contribute to the team effort (when you're doing team stuff), and you're enjoying yourself, ignore the idiots and have a good time, that's what games are for.
You need to find some better sins, if what you're doing now is as boring as flying a tacscort packed with DHCs and Turrets. :P
Completely agreed, otherwise.
If you have fun playing this game, you win. Even if you die a lot and rank toward the bottom in damage output on your team - if you're enjoying yourself, you're a winner.
The best ships and builds are the ones that make you laugh every time you go into battle.
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This is why I have an alt Eng. she's fun as hell to play. I still see plenty of 'noobs' in scorts not know wtf they are doing. Don't worry, be happy.
that said i think i have more fun flying my 2 science ships even though science abilities for the most part are way less effective than in the past. but sometimes i just love playing the shield stripper and repair man and at times gives me more fulfillment than just blasting the enemy in one short pass. play what you want to play and forget what the egomaniac kiddies haft to say.
"Cruiser > Escort (for me)" <-- Well, if this is what u believe.... good for u. I don't see the point of this thread at all.
I personally haven't delved too deeply into cruisers yet, but my recent months spent tinkering with science ships and torpedo builds has awakened me from the 'blaster boat' escort slumber much of the community seems to be stuck in and completely changed my perspective about how to play the game.
I will say that cruisers continue to surprise me with how well they can mix weapon types and still be quite effective(Quad turret with DBB and torpedos really surprised me with its performance). They are the most complicated to set up power levels for though - even moreso than offensive science ships.
I have fun with my tac-esc, eng-cruiser, sci-sci-torp-boat, but I know how to do damage and dont have problems with taking down a normal cube like the average player. In fact you can do damage with every ship and every class, you just need to know how. Unfortunately ppl try to fly a cruiser like an escort, while they obviously not the same and are surprsed when they do probe-like damage and cannot even tank one or two spheres.
I just wanted to say that I was pleasantly surprised after expecting the worst from stalking these forums.
- Judge Aaron Satie
i lol'd.
but yeah, play what and how you like. doing uber l337 deepeeess is pointless if you're not having fun doing it. i look forward to seeing your space whale in action someday. good hunting!
edit: if you haven't yet, find an active and friendly fleet. it'll make your time in the game much more enjoyable. my fleet is 88th. come check us out @ http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=350501
The other day i was in an estf with 4 carries and a cruiser. We beat it in about 5 or 6 minutes.
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I am still pretty new to this game and have not tried carriers yet. I loved them in Starfleet Command!
- Judge Aaron Satie
Me? I love Science vessels. I like being able to find creative and out of the box ways of kicking your TRIBBLE. I have an awesome Vesta class that I have been modifying over the past six months and its fun. I enjoy the game even if I dont have the max DPS of map.
As i have to remind the PVP section of my fleet. This is a game. Have fun with it. It's not always about the numbers.
Its difficult to get hot-headed DPS players to understand that not all of value shows up as raw numbers in a log at the end of a run.
Fleet Admiral Space Orphidian Possiblities Wizard
but it doesnt really matter if you join the KDF.. all their ships are cruisers with cannons
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It's one of the things I love about creating new characters. I'm able to use my fighters and shuttles "competatively" in PvE. They're just a blast to fly and I still hope that we'll get more shuttle events ands perhaps even a dedicated shuttle PvP-map.
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Nice video nicha0! I personally keep making the mistake of trying to reverse quickly in my cruiser like I use to do in my escort! Old habits are hard to break and I die as a result usually! lol
I've set up my Galor to do reasonable damage but can only tank and help buff a few allies every now and then. Working as a team is very important to me, that's why PUG's annoy me as so many don't communicate or work as a team.
The social aspect in this game is rather poor imo.
Its quite satisfying to get the damage up on them too and its very possible to do it, alot easier if you do use key binds which I don't so I have to what were I m flying, my power levels think of what situation I m in..how much damage I m doing..what Boff to pop next...etc
Its good fun getting it right you know striking the enemy with 700 damage per hit( thats very good don't you think? for a cruiser..)
Yes fine my escort can very easily match 700 per hit but you see here is the point, its easy. cruisers require that much more to get them to a good level, thats the fun of it.
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I was in my Atrox a while back, in ISE. Some hothead tacscort started going off about how horrible the Atrox was. (I'm being quite polite where he was not, but his tirade was not appropriate for the forums)
Didn't let up all run. Vile spew the entire time.
My Sci/Catbox did over double the DPS he did. Yeah, Escorts > all.
Most of the people who have strong opinions like that don't actually test anything. They hear something and go off like they have some bit of knowledge that actually means something. They don't, they are just parrots.
When you actually take the time to do a thorough analysis, things are a lot closer then the common "wisdom" would lead you to believe.
/derail off
Fleet Admiral Space Orphidian Possiblities Wizard
if you had said tac in a cruiser it could have been me as I find the Atrox weaker then Galactica by the end of BSG and hate that I wasted $ on it. but then again I usually alwasy end up back at my main ship, the one in my sig
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That would be funny,actually.
I loled hard at this.