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Possibility of melee ships?

emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I'm sure by now you're all familiar with the 'classes' found in most MMOs and the way that Star Trek Online covers them pretty well. We have healers/tanks (Cruisers), dps (Escorts), and support and control (Science ships). This game has a gross omission, however; a melee class. Has Cryptic ever considered a ship that can only hit from a few Space-meters away?

Anyways, just a random thought I had. I'm sure Cryptic are always looking for ways to keep up with other, similar games on the market.
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  • koppenflakkoppenflak Member Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    For some reason I just had visions of a Trekkified Cyberpunk Kraken ripping an Odyssey in half...
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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    OP -You mean this?
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Sorry, but there's nothing in Star Trek that equates to anything like a melee Starship. The closest we get with meleeing in ships is Ramming, and that's available to everyone under certain conditions.

    Come to think of it, don't think there is anykind of Science-Fiction genre that uses such things, except one. I seem to recall one series having a space fortress plowing through ships, but the name excapes me. Think it was in a Japanese Anime.
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited March 2013
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  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    sander233 wrote: »
    OP -You mean this?

    I was thinking more of something that woldn't blow up your own ship at the same time.
    koppenflak wrote: »
    For some reason I just had visions of a Trekkified Cyberpunk Kraken ripping an Odyssey in half...

    This! Maybe some sort of mechanical claws, and the advantage to offset their melee-status would be that they completely ignore shields and go right for hull.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    I was thinking more of something that woldn't blow up your own ship at the same time.



    This! Maybe some sort of mechanical claws, and the advantage to offset their melee-status would be that they completely ignore shields and go right for hull.

    So more like this.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    In Homeworld: Cataclysm, there is a ship called the Ramming Frigate. The ship kind of looks like a hammerhead shark. As far as STO goes, I can only see a ship like this as a carrier pet.
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    sander233 wrote: »
    So more like this.

    Now you're getting it! They could even add special consoles for ship melee weapons like a chance to score a "vorpal" hit that would sever a cruiser's saucer from the secondary hull for an instakill.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    Now you're getting it! They could even add special consoles for ship melee weapons like a chance to score a "vorpal" hit that would sever a cruiser's saucer from the secondary hull for an instakill.

    Actually that would just be more like an uncommanded Saucer Sep...
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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This is Star Trek, not Outlaw Star
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I don't see why we can't have a ship that extends part of itself to penetrate a target's hull and then unleashes a storm of torpedoes inside the other ship. Wouldn't that be awesome?
  • tomin8rtomin8r Member Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    They're called Escorts.
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tomin8r wrote: »
    They're called Escorts.

    No, escorts attack from range like every other currently flyable ship.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Could always go with Voltron. The only things that got into melee range in space in Star Trek were lifeforms that sucked the energy out of the ship. Star Trek combat always dealt with dealing damage from a distance. If a ship is in melee range, then there is a good chance that the ships will unintentionally collide and cause damage to both. So ships would have to be designed around melee range rather than just adding a piece of equipment.
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Enterprise had http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Grappler
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    duaths1 wrote: »
    Enterprise had http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Grappler

    Which is merely a low-tech version of the tractor beam.
    Why does this have to do with "space-punching"?:confused:
  • jadenmiajadenmia Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Star Trek hasn't presented any melee capable space craft. If this game where to incorporate melee space vehicles, it would have to gain ideas from other shows and stores or come up with something totally on its own.

    The closest thing I have seen to melee capable space able machines usually show up on anime as mobile suits, mechs, arm slaves, or what ever else that looks like 3 or 4 story high gun and saber holding walking machines.

    You would end up having to refer to shows like Mobile Suit Gundams, Full Metel Panic, Neon Geniuses and maybe even Outlaw Star. But most of those would not be very... trek like in design.

    You are looking at a long shot, and a very very far distance one at that. Unless paramount manages to make something on its own for a TV series or a movies, I doubt we will see one in game.
  • foxalpha5foxalpha5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I can't see how "space melee" could be added to STO, or Star Trek in general beyond ramming them. Too me ramming would be more the line of heavily armored ships, not Star Treks flimsy hulled ships. See Nemesis when the Enterprised rammed the Scimitar. That "narrow" edged hull didn't slice into the Scimitar, both were crushed flat like a tin can.

    So unless we get shuttles or starships made purely out of neutronium I don't see how we could have a "melee" class.

    Escorts can be considered our close range ships due to cannons being more effective as you get closer.
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  • angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 684 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It would've been a nice ability for the Tholian orb weaver with its prongs. :P
  • speciesonespeciesone Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    I don't see why we can't have a ship that extends part of itself to penetrate a target's hull and then unleashes a storm of torpedoes inside the other ship. Wouldn't that be awesome?


    You mean like this? http://youtu.be/Slqa30DSSKE :)
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    This topic only serves to remind me that prepubescent kiddies play F2P games.
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  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I suppose what you could have is a spaceship with a spinning circular blade which circles around the hull, but i suppose that any "melee" ships CANNOT be part of the federation. Remember that Feds are all about peace and love and monkeys and fairys, so such a vessel would have to be restricted to KDF.

    Instead of "pure" melee, what about some sort of ship with a very short range energy burst. One that can be given devastating damage, but only if its next to its target?
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well Star Trek dose not have the technology to have Gundams or robots, But now that they have power armor pretty sure mechs are not long off. :D


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  • adzcriz1adzcriz1 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    i suddenly have visions of the new Galaxy-M class, AKA Galaxy - Mace in your face. Modified Gal-x with 2 multijointed arms fielding a mace in one hand and a Claw gripper in the other (to hold said speedy escort in place whilst mace-ing said squishie annoyance), along with a klingon forehead style prowl for when the need to ship-butt arises
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  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Well Star Trek dose not have the technology to have Gundams or robots, But now that they have power armor pretty sure mechs are not long off. :D

    What power armor? I see some EV suits not all that different from what was shown in First Contact and Enterprise.
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited March 2013
    Three pages and no mention of the Supermobile?

    Hey. Kryptonite showed up on a Star Trek periodic table in one episode.

    And there was a Vulcan Green Lantern named Saarek who used the Vulcan salute.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    stoleviathan99 wrote: »
    Three pages and no mention of the Supermobile?

    Hey. Kryptonite showed up on a Star Trek periodic table in one episode.

    And there was a Vulcan Green Lantern named Saarek who used the Vulcan salute.

    What does Superman need with a car :D
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Really? I refuse to revert to 1st century BCE tactics and warfare! Not canon, not even logical, nor even feasible given the limits of the game engine. NYET! NYET! NYET!!!!
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  • moronwmachinegunmoronwmachinegun Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    In Homeworld: Cataclysm, there is a ship called the Ramming Frigate. The ship kind of looks like a hammerhead shark. As far as STO goes, I can only see a ship like this as a carrier pet.

    http://www.stowiki.org/Hangar_-_Advanced_S%27kul_Fighters

    And yes, they are pretty bad-TRIBBLE.
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