TRIBBLE Maintenance and Release Notes - February 25, 2013

zer0niusrex · February 2013

We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.25.20130128a.31

General:

All Mk XII Phased Tetryon Dual and Dual Heavy Cannons can now be fitted on Multi-Mission Science Vessels.
Quad Disruptor Cannons can now be fitted on the same Classes as allowed by the Quad Phaser Cannons.
Lunge and Pounce now share a 6.0sec Category Cooldown.

Andorian Ships Updated:

Phaser Dispersal Array:
- Increased the damage of the Overload attack.
- Decreased the charge up time from 4 seconds to 2 seconds.
- This no longer shares a category cooldown with Cannon: Rapid Fire or Cannon: Scatter Volley.
- This now has a 30 second shared cooldown with the Tachyon Blast from the Tachyon Induction Relay console.
Tachyon Induction Relay:
- The Tachyon Blast from this console now increases damage to the target's Shields by 25% for 15 seconds.
- If you have the three piece set bonus, your Wing Cannon Platforms will also benefit from this change, but their Tachyon Blast only increases damage to the target's shields by 5%.
  - These effects stack.
- This no longer shares a category cooldown with Cannon: Rapid Fire or Cannon: Scatter Volley.
- This now has a 30 second shared cooldown with Wing Cannon: Overload from the Phaser Dispersal Array console.
Wing Cannon Platforms:
- Increased the Hull of Wing Cannon Platforms by about 25%.
- Increased the Shields of Wing Cannon Platforms by about 25%.
3 Piece Set Bonus: Updated description to indicate that the Wing Cannon: Overload and Tachyon Burst that your Platforms will use is weaker than your version.
- This is a text change only.
Updated the FX and icon for the Cannon Overload attack to indicate that the power is an AoE.
- This is a visual change only.

mrkollins · February 2013

Yay! a Ground PvP fix!

Keep them coming!

sunfrancks · February 2013

Might just make one of the Kumari consoles worth slotting....

webdeath · February 2013

zer0niusrex wrote: »

We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.25.20130128a.31

Andorian Ships Updated:
Phaser Dispersal Array:
Increased the damage of the Overload attack.

Decreased the charge up time from 4 seconds to 2 seconds.

This no longer shares a category cooldown with Cannon: Rapid Fire or Cannon: Scatter Volley.

This now has a 30 second shared cooldown with the Tachyon Blast from the Tachyon Induction Relay console.

Does this mean we won't be locked into the 2 second charge up where we can't use ANY powers until it's over? (Really hurts being able to defend ones self while they charge up to fire)

diogene0 · February 2013

More power creep. What a surprise.

ashkrik23 · February 2013

Nerfing pounce? Bleh. That was decent for STFs. I could already one-hit KO people with lunge in PVP on my tac. No reason to share a CD with pounce.

trek21 · February 2013

ashkrik23 wrote: »

Nerfing pounce? Bleh. That was decent for STFs. I could already one-hit KO people with lunge in PVP on my tac. No reason to share a CD with pounce.

A number in the PvP forums would disagree with you

It's been discussed at length there, and this was the solution

ashkrik23 · February 2013

trek21 wrote: »

A number in the PvP forums would disagree with you It's been discussed at length there, and this was the solution

Oh I've seen all the nerf threads.

mrkollins · February 2013

ashkrik23 wrote: »

Oh I've seen all the nerf threads.

Come to the PvP forum and feel free to post any of your ideas or concerns regarding Caitians/Feresans in PvP.

jcsww · February 2013

ashkrik23 wrote: »

Oh I've seen all the nerf threads.

Yeah, I'd call that a nerf also. What a way to take something away from the furries.

Maybe if we paid a little more for them, they might get buffed instead of being nerfed.

commadorebob · February 2013

So we are going to take away the one unique function of the Catians and Ferasans just to appease the handful of PvP players who don't know how to properly defend it?

ashkrik23 · February 2013

commadorebob wrote: »

So we are going to take away the one unique function of the Catians and Ferasans just to appease the handful of PvP players who don't know how to properly defend it?

Because apparently Lunge and Pounce combined is more OP than a one-shot puslewave:rolleyes:.

bughunter357 · February 2013

Great another weeks worth of whines about a simple change in-game, for one I don't use both Pounce and lunge on my Tac cats so this does not bother me, and it does not apply on other cats classes so again it does not bother me.

wirtdd · February 2013

bughunter357 wrote: »

Great another weeks worth of whines about a simple change in-game, for one I don't use both Pounce and lunge on my Tac cats so this does not bother me, and it does not apply on other cats classes so again it does not bother me.

^^^^ That.

redricky · February 2013

zer0niusrex wrote: »

We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.25.20130128a.31

General:
Quad Disruptor Cannons can now be fitted on the same Classes as allowed by the Quad Phaser Cannons.

Thank you for this. Orion deployables?

kalvorax · February 2013

zer0niusrex wrote: »

We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.25.20130128a.31
Andorian Ships Updated:
Phaser Dispersal Array:
Increased the damage of the Overload attack.
Decreased the charge up time from 4 seconds to 2 seconds.
This no longer shares a category cooldown with Cannon: Rapid Fire or Cannon: Scatter Volley.
This now has a 30 second shared cooldown with the Tachyon Blast from the Tachyon Induction Relay console.
Tachyon Induction Relay:
The Tachyon Blast from this console now increases damage to the target's Shields by 25% for 15 seconds.
If you have the three piece set bonus, your Wing Cannon Platforms will also benefit from this change, but their Tachyon Blast only increases damage to the target's shields by 5%.
These effects stack.
This no longer shares a category cooldown with Cannon: Rapid Fire or Cannon: Scatter Volley.
This now has a 30 second shared cooldown with Wing Cannon: Overload from the Phaser Dispersal Array console.
Wing Cannon Platforms:
Increased the Hull of Wing Cannon Platforms by about 25%.
Increased the Shields of Wing Cannon Platforms by about 25%.
3 Piece Set Bonus: Updated description to indicate that the Wing Cannon: Overload and Tachyon Burst that your Platforms will use is weaker than your version.
This is a text change only.
Updated the FX and icon for the Cannon Overload attack to indicate that the power is an AoE.
This is a visual change only.

awesome

....now what about the blasted "good for nothing unless your facing 45* at your target" platforms that SHOULD shoot in a much wider angel and shoot on their own?

sorry but they are incredibly weak (even with the increase to hull and shields) for a 3 minute CD....

ukcaptain420 · February 2013

zer0niusrex wrote: »

Quad Disruptor Cannons can now be fitted on the same Classes as allowed by the Quad Phaser Cannons.

Lunge and Pounce now share a 6.0sec Category Cooldown.

Thank you.

commadorebob · February 2013

bughunter357 wrote: »

Great another weeks worth of whines about a simple change in-game, for one I don't use both Pounce and lunge on my Tac cats so this does not bother me, and it does not apply on other cats classes so again it does not bother me.

Then if it isn't such a big deal, then why change it? As you pointed out, there are few people who use it and most of those that I know only use it in STFs. I myself have a tac Ferasan and only use Grenade satchels and hardly ever use pounce itself (much to the chagrin to my fleetmates).

My question is of all the things that need changing, why this? Are the cat-species that dominant in PvP?

matridunadan1 · February 2013

And still no word on the Phased Tetryon's bugged tetryon proc on a tetryon weapon.

wolfpacknz · February 2013

And once again nothing about the chat bug. Doesn't surprise me...

lindaleff · February 2013

ashkrik23 wrote: »

Nerfing pounce? Bleh. That was decent for STFs. I could already one-hit KO people with lunge in PVP on my tac. No reason to share a CD with pounce.

trek21 wrote: »

A number in the PvP forums would disagree with you It's been discussed at length there, and this was the solution

ashkrik23 wrote: »

Oh I've seen all the nerf threads.

mrkollins wrote: »

Come to the PvP forum and feel free to post any of your ideas or concerns regarding Caitians/Feresans in PvP.

I am getting very tired of saying this, and not having Cryptic pay any attention, but they need to stop listening to PvPers. If these people think that a weapon is overpowered, they need to stop fighting each other, and take these powerful weapons into Elite STFs. When they are faced with multiple Elite Tactical Drones, or swamped 3 to 1 with cubes, they will be GLAD to have those weapons! :mad:

And so us pure STFers get punished by getting all of our stuff nerfed, even though we never complained because those powerful weapons actually HELPED us! :mad:

tazurensavulen · February 2013

All these nerfs due to whiney PvPers is getting rediculous. Trico torpedoes are subspace weapons and so they shuold be stupid powerful, but the PvPers kept dying to them because they couldn't defend against them so now quantum torps are just as powerful. I woul say to rebuff them, but yeah, That will never happen.

mrkollins · February 2013

commadorebob wrote: »

Then if it isn't such a big deal, then why change it? As you pointed out, there are few people who use it and most of those that I know only use it in STFs. I myself have a tac Ferasan and only use Grenade satchels and hardly ever use pounce itself (much to the chagrin to my fleetmates).

My question is of all the things that need changing, why this? Are the cat-species that dominant in PvP?

To make things clear, there no exist better races than the Caitians/Ferasans in Ground PvP/PvE.

For example, Jump height can be used to exploit pathing mistakes on Shanty Town to access areas where other players cannot follow and to directly cross obstacles that should be impassible. Even if it were not for this, jump height would be a powerful ability: you can evade most of the damage from engineer mines and bombs by jumping over them, jump to evade the damage from a grenade or an orbital strike (even if you are rooted)

And also they have their unique trait (Feline Instincts/Predatory Instincts).
This trait is the only one on ground that provides a dodge bonus.. since dodging (taking-half damage) is the most important stat on ground caitians/ferasans are the only races that have access to it and thus are more durable then any other race. The difference noticed by a cat stacking up: trait bonus + omega + gambler + crouch/sprint + additional dodge from teammates with omega is so huge that it may also be worth looking if dodging is maybe stacking to good in general

Combine all that with Pounce and you have the deadliest Race for PvP and also PvE (you dont need all that to be the best in PvE, you can win using just one hand).

So we -the handful of guys that do PvP- decided to make threads regarding this several issues, you see, we care about game balance and fair gameplay, we don't wan't Ground to become the place only for Cats because they are the best and there doesn't exist something comparable. This is not a nerf, is a balance pass.

And seriously, all your game style in STFs depends if you use Punce and Lunge at the same time?

lindaleff · February 2013

Not the playing style, but using them together sometimes can be the only thing that separates you from winning and losing Elite STFs. If you don't like Pounce and Lunge, run Hive Elite. When you are facing the Queen, plus countless drones all around, using Lunge and Pounce together will actually save your life, and HELP take the Queen to the death she deserves! Plus, the extra jump actually will save you from being fried by the one-hit-kills electric floors.

tazurensavulen wrote: »

All these nerfs due to whiney PvPers is getting rediculous. Trico torpedoes are subspace weapons and so they shuold be stupid powerful, but the PvPers kept dying to them because they couldn't defend against them so now quantum torps are just as powerful. I woul say to rebuff them, but yeah, That will never happen.

Plus the usage of Tricobalts to take out transformers without destroying the generators first? Not going to happen. I have used them extensively, the torpedoes, the mines, even using them together, fully buffed, and I have never once been able to kill a transformer before it could be healed. And in all the countless hundreds of Elite STFs I have been in, I have never once witnessed ANYONE do it, so I will never believe the threads about that to be truth.

As for using them against Donatra, killing her while she is cloaked is FUN! Few things are quite as satisfying as the team launching a barrage of Heavy Tricobalts the moment Donatra cloaks, watching them track the invisible ship, and the explosion for the win!

Or what about the KASE where I got someone who does not know what they are doing. They die to the Cube from THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE, which then comes over to attack me, PLUS the Cube I was already fighting. Along the way, the same wacko goes to the other side of the map, activates another Cube, and dies to it too. The Cube then comes ACROSS THE MAP to attack me. I now am alone against 3 Cubes, and team-mates don't come help! (:mad:) Spamming fully-buffed Tricobalts is the only way I managed to kill all 3! I got down to less than 10% hull and no shields, but I survived. So, Tricobalts actually can and will save your life!

So people need to stop complaining about powerful weapons that saved your life. Stop complaining about powerful weapons that actually HELP you. Take them into an Elite STF, and you will be GLAD that you had those weapons! :mad:

tazurensavulen · February 2013

lindaleff wrote: »

Plus the usage of Tricobalts to take out transformers without destroying the generators first? Not going to happen. I have used them extensively, the torpedoes, the mines, even using them together, fully buffed, and I have never once been able to kill a transformer before it could be healed. And in all the countless hundreds of Elite STFs I have been in, I have never once witnessed ANYONE do it, so I will never believe the threads about that to be truth.

As for using them against Donatra, killing her while she is cloaked is FUN! Few things are quite as satisfying as the team launching a barrage of Heavy Tricobalts the moment Donatra cloaks, watching them track the invisible ship, and the explosion for the win!

Or what about the KASE where I got someone who does not know what they are doing. They die to Cube from THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE, which then comes over to attack me, PLUS the Cube I was already fighting. Along the way, the same wacko goes to the other side of the map, activates another Cube, and dies to it. The Cube then comes ACROSS THE MAP to attack me. I now am alone against 3 Cubes, and team-mates don't come help! (:mad:) Spamming fully-buffed Tricobalts is the only way I managed to kill all 3! So, Tricobalts actually can and will save your life!

So people need to stop complaining about powerful weapons that actually HELP you. :mad:

Aye. All these whiners is why we can't have nice things. Soon they will complain EVERYTHING is too powerful and that the Game should be shut down,

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dova25 · February 2013

"This is your top Z Store ship and it still is being slaughtered by any half competent Bug pilot"
I agree with your statement but I think it is normal to be so.
A kumari costs 5k zen ~ 70 mil EC and a jhas costs ~ 400 mil Ec
(I don't have either do I have no bias to either side)

Kumari it so good that some of my kdf friends want to buy the kumari and one wants to switch side to fed because kdf is forgotten in his opinion and he want to fly such a great escort.It saddens me but I do understand them all and I asked them to use their new ship only in FvF.
(They will remain my friends even if they will be flying kumari and even if they will kill me on arena)

"and in fact the Fleet Patrol is a better all round ship." Dont agree with that , I usually kill a fleet patrol with my mu raptor 7 from 10 fights.On the other hand I can kill kumari only by sheer chance. Maybe 1-3 kills from 10 encounters.
That is before the new patch so I guess after the patch comes live it will be worse to anybody who doesn't fly a jhas.
Kumari will hit harder and faster .It will have more spike damage than before => more instant kills

For me personally this tribble patch notes are sad news

lindaleff · February 2013

dova25 wrote: »

Kumari it so good that some of my kdf friends want to buy the kumari and one wants to switch side to fed because kdf is forgotten in his opinion and he want to fly such a great escort.

I agree entirely. Instead of appeasing the every demands of the PvPers, the devs should work on the stuff that actually matters, adding content for KDF. Give the KDF some Zen Store Ships equivalent to the Kumari, Vesta, and what have you. Give KDF more Zen Store costumes. Make the KDF story mission rewards give (at least) MK XI stuff. Do that, THEN we can focus on trivial matters like PvP.

goldendharmny · February 2013

Do not need them or want them....

gypsyblade · February 2013

zer0niusrex wrote: »

Lunge and Pounce now share a 6.0sec Category Cooldown.

So you fix the KHG Rifle grenade share.... but nerf a species people pay for?

Pretty silly considering my Ferengi tact can keep people nearly perma'd kb'd w/o Pouce.

lindaleff · February 2013

That fact that it IS something you have to purchase in order to unlock means that by nature it SHOULD be better than the stuff you get for free. Same is true for species, ships, weapons, and anything else Zen Store offers. It is SUPPOSED to be better than the free stuff, or else it would be given for free.

Now if you want to argue about being Elitist, or about not wanting to spend real money, then just use the Dilithium Exchange. Turn your Dilithium into Zen, then you too can have the best species, the best weapons, and the best ships. All of this is possible by only using in-game currencies. You just need to work for it. That's right. If you want the best stuff, you need to work for it. The work is good for you anyway. It builds character.

That is how I got my Ferasan and Caitians species, my Odyssey Pack, my Fleet Negh'Var, and all the weapons and equipment on them. Every last bit of it was bought through work and Dilithium Exchange. Problem solved.

TRIBBLE Maintenance and Release Notes - February 25, 2013

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