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Jem Hadar Dreadnaught cannot buy hangar pets.
gespensterjaeger
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aight so many of you just like me bought the dreadnaught jem hadar carrier.
and to our shocking surprise you cannot get the jemhadar hangar pets ( mini attack buggs purple variant )
couse we do not own the jemhadar attack bugg ship wich was so rare that u needed to pay 3.000 usd to get it.
soo what and how will this be fixed ?
and to our shocking surprise you cannot get the jemhadar hangar pets ( mini attack buggs purple variant )
couse we do not own the jemhadar attack bugg ship wich was so rare that u needed to pay 3.000 usd to get it.
soo what and how will this be fixed ?
If only they fix Cloaking bugg 
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You're far too generous.
I can pretty much guarantee that the Bug will be available in another limited-time promotional event within the next 3 months. They laid groundwork to increase the demand for this promotional event preemptively. Buy our limited edition widget for a 1:10,000 chance to win a Bug! (Only 200 zen per widget)
Frankly I find this fixation on the Bug to be annoying. Such levels of enthusiasm and attention should be reserved for factional ships, not some staff person's personal love affair with a minor ship of a minor fashion.
It does? I can't think of any other carrier where you have to pay 500M EC for a ship just to be able to pay 60k dilithium for some hangar pets. I hope they will never expand on this idea.
And people laughed at EVE Online for selling $70 monocles...
The price of the bug ship on the exchange is driven by the players. Don't get mad at Cryptic for player greed.
Those ships have huge demand and no supply. Last time I checked there were only 4 JHAS in the exchange. There were also 47 Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carriers with the cheapest being only 61M. It's greed when people are not selling their ultra-rare Attack Ships for 60M?
Youe are confusing the word "want" with the word "need".
I'm sure will survive until you can save up for a bug ship.
Did you miss the fact that there were only 4 of them being sold? We "need" a new supply of them.
It is also not a surprise, if you would have read the info before buying you would have known.
U also do not need the JHAS, u are also not forced to use the JHAS.
U can use any ohter pet just like any other carrier can.
There is nothing broken.
If u want to get JHAS pet u need to get it just like other people got it. U are not entitled to it because you did not read before u bought.
Also this is a double thread.
I never gave a damn about the bug till they said it can be a hanger pet!
(My initial theory was that they were people selling bugs and cackling evilly at the though of a giant 500M chunk of profit dropping in their lap, but there aren't enough of the silly things for sale to support this theory)
I figured that I should correct the misinformation that you keep offering up in this thread has well.
You can use any Fighter Class Hanger craft from the other Carriers provided that you own the Carriers that they were made for except the Recluse nothing else can use its fighters.
You also cannot use the Stalker Fighters.
I also believe that this thread was not merged with the other thread because that would require acknowledging that the other Thread exists
It is not broken.
It is , however, a stupid decision from a business and customer service. It lowers the value of the carrier and ,as such, there's no real reason to bother acquiring it over other ships.
Because of this choice, there are people (like myself) who plan to buy no more zen and spend no more money on the C-store until it's rectified.
If you feel that's entitlement, then you should consult a dictionary.
I don't have a bug ship, but there are ways to earn and save EC. That's how I got my 6 lockbox ships and counting...off the exchange, not by opening boxes. When the bug ship returns, the exchange price will probably drop to 160-200 million EC at some point during its availability. That's still a lot of EC, but not...3,000 USD worth as the original poster suggested. (frankly, there's nothing in the game that costs that much, even now).
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No. Tell Cryptic to cease their outrageously exploitive, player-hating BS by not getting a Bug. If you tell them it's okay to play these games, they will play them over and over and over.
The problem here is that you're assuming the ONLY reason to buy a Jammie Dread is the ability to use Bugs as Hangar Pets. Have you ever considered for the briefest moment that people might want the Jammie Dread on its OWN merits as a carrier? It's like the folks that complain about the Chimera "costing $300" when they ignore everything else an LTS gets them. It's like buying a sports car and declaring that "$200,000 for red brake calipers = RIP-OFF!!!"
I don't own one and can't speak to how cool or lame the default pets for it are (putting aside the fact that you can use whatever OTHER pets are compatible), but as far as I've read the Jammie Dread is far from a one-trick pony.
The Bug Pet gimmick is a BONUS, nothing more. It's there to increase the value of the carrier in the eyes of Bug owners, and to increase the value of the Bug in the eyes of Bug-lusters.
If that's not enough for you, well...that's the way the Ketracel crumbles.
TL;DR I'm not telling you what you should value when you buy your ships, but if you specifically choose to ignore the forest for the trees, that's not Cryptic's fault.
If this were a bundle in the Z-store where each ship had a fair price and they were easy to buy, and there was a bonus for having both of them, I would consider your argument valid.
100% Agreed,
If we give into this type of double dipping nonsense it will be with us forever here in STO :eek:
Think about it guys:
Besides the Recluse and the Dreanought every other Carrier that's in game has been given all of it's specific Hanger options for EC from the Shipyard vendors (rare) or Dilithium from the D-Store (very rare)
Vo'Quv was given both the To'Duj Fighters and The Bird of Prey.
Kar'Fi was given both the S'kul Fighters and the Fek'Ihri Frigate.
Atrox was given both the Peregrine Fighters and the Stalker Fighters :P
Recluse only has Rare Widow Fighers and no Frigate class option
Dreanought was given the Jem'Hadar Fighters and has an option for the Attack Ships that is being gated behind needing to own the Bug ship and thats way wrong.
I could see if by owning the Bug ship you can buy Hanger Bug ships that could be used with every full carrier that you own (Account wide) but the Hanger Bugs can only be used with the Dreadnought Carrier.
If we just role over and say that this move by Cryptic is ok then going foward every new Carrier is going to have its hanger options that can only be used with it gated in some shape or form instead of being something that was given with the Carrier.
Once we accept it it sets a precedent.
Once it becomes a precedent it becomes norm.
Once it becomes the norm it opens the doorway to try something like it with other items in the game.
This move by Cryptic can not be aloud to go unchallenged, it cannot be aloud to become the norm.
Pfft. Fair price is in the eye of the beholder, and your personal threshold for payment in no way invalidates my argument. It has NOTHING to do with your mistaken and frankly selfish assumption that YOUR standard for what's worth buying MUST be the standard by which all players must conform.
If you think it's a rip-off, that's your prerogative. I personally do, myself. But if it's making Cryptic enough money and the people who buy it (the informed ones at least, not the dumb ones) happy, then there's nothing to "fix".
To use the overused internet taunt, cry some more.
Also, it's the C-store. Get it right.
Anyone who disagrees with you is a corporate sockpuppet. All contrary opinions must be ignored until the echo-chamber is complete.
I ignore no one that offers a valid argument
Do none of you comprehend the meaning of "optional"? Can none of you devote the minuscule amount of time and brainpower necessary to suss out a developer's intention? I have to wonder if some of the insanely butthurt players in these threads are even literate.
Were you complaining that it was an unfair ripoff that the Dominion Synergy Bonus from the Jem Space Set only works on the Bug? Is it an insane cash-grab when the Assimilated Tractor Beam only works if you equip ALL the pieces of the Borg Set? Did you baby-wail when you realized that you had to buy/roll all THREE pieces of a Space Set to benefit from the 3-piece bonus? THAT'S what your arguments are, basically!
If the ONLY reason you bought a dreadnought was to use Bug Pets with, when Cryptic CLEARLY intended for the bonus to be exactly that, a BONUS for owners of the playable Bug (and maybe a value-add for Bug Owners that want a carrier, or for the next Bug re-release), then that is YOUR problem, not Cryptic's.
If the ONLY thing you valued about the Jem Dread was that bonus, that is YOUR problem (and I pity you for it), not Cryptic's! You've bought a sports car for the fancy keychain, then complained that you had to buy a sports car to get it!
Should the Bug be cheaper or a C-store item? Yes. Should the Jammie pets be unlocked at the start? Maybe, a carrier feds can use that rocks Frigate-pets would be sweet (even if the Klinks would complain about losing a unique aspect). Am I entitled to it? NO.
No. A more accurate analogy: We bought a sports car with a missing radio. The radio comes as a bonus for buying a road grader.
Actually it was. I was also going to get the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier just for the useless console set but that's just going to encourage them to add more of the same.
Why people wanted Quad Cannons so much? Why people waste money on Galaxy-R? Why people wanted retrofits of low tier ships? Why people wanted Mirror Universe ships with I.S.S. prefix? Think about it.
Yes, I've watched that certain "news" channel too.
Wrong. The radio was never "missing", because the fact that the radio purchase was linked to the road grader was listed right in the brochure!
And who buys a sports car for its radio?! No one in his or her right mind, that's for sure.
Actually, here're more analogies: You bought a sports car for the bikini model standing next to it at the auto show and started whinging when you found out she wanted to be paid for her time. It's like staying at a fancy hotel and calling it a ripoff because they charge extra for candy from the mini-fridge (when the separate charges are clearly labeled in the brochures).
It's your right to buy ships for a single reason, but that doesn't make your priorities smart or your complaints automatically reasonable.
Again you miss the point and assume there is ONE, and only ONE valid reason to buy any given ship. If the Quad Cannons were the ONLY thing you wanted a Sao Paolo for, that's YOUR problem. I enjoyed the Sao Paolo skin, as well.
Furthermore, people want Retrofits of lowbie ships because they want to play them at high tier. That's a HUGE reason for buying a Retrofit, and a FAR more substantial one than buying them for a tiny fine print bonus that you couldn't be bothered to actually read up on. Buying a Retrofit is EXACTLY the same as buying a sports car for being a sports car that goes fast and is a finely engineered piece of machinery. There's no "gimmick" about a T5 retrofit or whatever.
Plus, Mirror Universe ships ALSO get the prefix, the skin, and the CLASS SWAP. Again, SIGNIFICANT reasons for buying, and not "gimmicks" in any way.
Frankly, you've only bolstered my case with your "counterexamples".
Threads like this are the reason many devs ignore (or have begun to ignore) their forums.
Flaw zero:
Most people upset about this were not deceived or mistaken. They knew that they wouldn't get the bug ship pet.
Flaw one:
Bikini models have a variety of possible usage scenarios besides riding in the specific car you bought. The attack ship pet does not. It is an item with only one possible use in one possible product, that does not come as an accessory to that product.
Flaw two:
Hangar pet options enhance the performance, not the appearance, of the dreadnaught carrier. The flexibility of hangar bays is one of the primary reasons to use a carrier in the first place.
Flaw three:
You don't even have permission to buy (not "get for free", buy) this unique accessory until you get something else that's fabulously rare, fabulously expensive, and totally unrelated. The bug pet costs 30K dil. I'd pay it. The completely unnecessary flyable bug is the problem.
That's not a flaw, because you were never promised it in the first place unless you owned the Bug. That obviously means it was targeted to existing/prospective Bug owners. Non-owners were NEVER promised it, or entitled to it in the first place. It's an optional extra restricted to a small minority of players. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Besides, Cryptic doesn't make a dime off of Bug ships bought via the exchange. They might do so indirectly via people buying keys to open lockboxes or sell, but the prices of the Bug are entirely the product of player desire. That's not their doing, and they have no obligation to change it.