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The KDF's answer to the Kumari

spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Klingon Discussion
Yes its an old post of mine but ppl were intriuged by it last time so maybe it could spark things off...... :P

Faction: KDF
Species: Ferasan
Rank: Lt. Gen.
Type: Warmonger Vessel
Name: Car'acal


The Ferasan's and Lethean's have been insisting upon the Council to let them intergrate their technology into the Empire.
Several Months Passed with no movement, no word...until now! The Car'acal and Vizimar'l have been forged to be warfighting ships imbued with the scientific knowhow and tenacity of the Ferasan race and the and the Engineering prowess and Ferocity of the Lethean Race.
To lead these Daunting vessel into battle against our Enemies The Klingon High Council has commissioned the Qunpu''yoj Warmonger into service.....''The Federation will cower at our feet...!''

Now at last the Ferasans and Letheans can impose their will upon the Federation and other Enemies of the Empire! Qapla'

Car'acal Warmonger
Wpn Slots:
Fore: 5 (comes with base: 2x Mk XII Disruptor Cannon, 1x Dual Disruptor Beam Bank Mk XII and 1x Photon Torpedo Launcher Mk XII
Aft: 1 (comes with base: 1x Disruptor Beam Array Mk XII)
Device Slots: 3
Sci:4
Eng:1
Tac:4
NEW!! Auxillary Slot: 1 (can equip any item, be it, weapons, fighters or devices) (enables a 360 degree arc for any weapon equipped, but Fighters have a timer)
Hangar Bay: 1 x Ferasan Sphyker - (xPlasma Beam Array S + 1 Photon Torp S + Sub-Science Team) they work like Work Bees

Boff layout:
Lt. Tac
Lt. Eng
Cmdr. Sci
Lt.Cmdr. Uni
Ens. Uni

Hull: 33200
shields: 7,431 (Mk XII)
Shield Modifier:1.3
Crew: 1,500
Turn Rate: 7.5
Impulse Modifier: 0.18
Inertia Rating: 26
Bonus Powers: +10 to Stealth, +10 to Shield Powers


Vizimar'l Warmonger
Wpn Slots:
Fore: 5 (comes with base: 3x Mk XII Disruptor Cannon, 1x Dual Disruptor Beam Bank Mk XII and 1x Photon Torpedo Launcher Mk XII
Aft: 1 (comes with base: 1x Disruptor Beam Array Mk XII)
Device Slots: 3
Sci:1
Eng:4
Tac:4
NEW!! Auxillary Slot: 1 (can equip any item, be it, weapons, fighters or devices) (enables a 360 degree arc for any weapon equipped, but Fighters have a timer)
Hangar Bay: 1 x Nnilta Support Fighter- (2xPlasma Beam Array S + 1 Photon Torp S + Arc Defence System) takes down Projectiles.

Boff layout:
Cmdr. Eng
Lt. Eng
Lt. Sci
Lt.Cmdr. Uni
Ens. Uni

Hull: 33200
shields: 7,431 (Mk XII)
Shield Modifier:1.3
Crew: 1,500
Turn Rate: 7.5
Impulse Modifier: 0.18
Inertia Rating: 26
Bonus Powers: +10 to Stealth, (need something for this ship)


Qunpu''yoj Warmonger
Wpn Slots:
Fore: 5 (comes with base: 3x Mk XII Disruptor Cannon, 1x Dual Disruptor Beam Bank Mk XII and 1x Photon Torpedo Launcher Mk XII
Aft: 1 (comes with base: 1x Disruptor Beam Array Mk XII)
Device Slots: 3
Sci2
Eng:4
Tac:3
NEW!! Auxillary Slot: 1 (can equip any item, be it, weapons, fighters or devices) (enables a 360 degree arc for any weapon equipped, but Fighters have a timer)
Hangar Bay: 1 x NEW!!Ho'Do Strike Fighter- (2xPlasma Beam Array S + 1 Photon Torp S + Sub-Tachyon Beam) helps to take down En. Shields allowing you to strike hard.

Boff layout:
Cmdr. Tac
Lt.Cmdr. Eng
Lt. Sci
Lt. Uni
Ens. Uni

Hull: 33200
shields: 7,431 (Mk XII)
Shield Modifier:1
Crew: 1,500
Turn Rate: 7.5
Impulse Modifier: 0.18
Inertia Rating: 26
Bonus Powers: +10 to Stealth, +10 to Weapon Powers

Note that all weaponry that come with these ships are Lethean Disruptor Beams and Cannons (KDF equivalent to Andorian Phasers, Visuals give them a darkend gren colouring with a white flare)

Note that the Torpedoes are all Ferasan Photons (a Torp that moves at twice the speed of a normal Photon, has 86 Radiation Damage over 15 sec and has warbling sound, visuals give it a red bubble-like effect, when using THY it is the size of THY Plasma but with an enlarged red bubble)
Modes:
sector - (also same as stalker shroud) a dark crystalline plating engulfs the ship
Hunter - the Stalker shroud (CP) Recedes and reveals the armour plating beneath, the fractal gun emplacements lower and become a moving part, the tactical bulkhead protrudes from with the hull


They come with a 4 Piece Set (could be a Lobi Store set for 3 of the items?)

1: Fractal Pulse Gun (Tac) - a new KDF weapon device that can be placed into a device slot (only device that cannot go into aux slot) an AP Gun that has a Pulsing effect, Critical Damage output that akin to the Guramba, also a 2 min cooldown.
This Console comes with the Qunpu''yoj.

3.Positron Field Array (Sci) - when activated it has a chance of nullifying all torpedo attacks and adds a shockwave effect to the Fractal Gun with a small chance of disabling target shields.
This Console comes with the Car'acal.

4: Stalker Field Emitter (Eng) - allows the Car'acal to shroud itself in an anti-targeting signature, whilst emitting a a pulse wave of frequencies that switch of enemy engines leaving them like wounded prey. (you cannot target whilst this is activated niether can En.
once deactivated a +10 boost to weapon power is available for 5 secs) 1 min cooldown.
This Console comes with the Vizimar'l.

2: Nexus Module (Uni) - a device that when activated creates a large nexus 3km to the front of your vessel causing all En. vessels weapons systems to malfunction and target the Nexus, giving you a 15sec gap, a dampening effect is applied to all energy weapons passing through that arc.
This Console comes with each Ship.


2 Piece Power: Permanent Boost to Shield Power and crew recovery rate.

4 piece Power: The Nexus Size is Doubled to 7km in diameter and on top of normal effects causes damage to all ships including players.

Never got round to finishing the sketches :(

The Aux slot which can equip any weapon makes up for the lack of Aft Wpn Slots, welcome her with open arms she will please you!

*Energy Phase device - Device Slot Only - allows the user of the ship to pick the energy type of the Spinal Lance, Spinal Burst Overload, Halo Beam array, Phaser Lotus, Quantum Field Focus Phaser, Phaser Dispersal Array, also for the Disruptor Autocannon, Javelin, Disruptor Lotus, Fractal Pulse Gun. Once used the Device has a 15Min Cooldown until the next energy type can be chosen.
It comes with each of the Dreadnought Retrofits.
Can also be equipped to the: Dreadnought Cruiser, Fleet Dreadnought Cruiser, Chimera Heavy Destroyer, Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer, Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer, Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer, Andorian Kumari Escort, Andorian Charal Escort and the Andorian Khyzon Escort.
!will be released in the Lobi Store for 200 Lobi (also available for KDF for the: Guramba Seige Destroyer, Bortasqu' Command Cruiser, Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser, Bortasqu' War Cruiser,Peghqu' Heavy Destroyer and the Car'acal Warmonger Vessel.
but when the device is used on all other ships it boosts wpn power by +15% for 10secs and all beam abilities have slight damage output increase!
For Information on the last device see Bishamonten/Shinto/Talon Class Dreadnoughts (Galaxy-X
Refits/retrofits) in Federation Shipyards Forum


EDITS: -Have added 2 more ships, 1 Lethean, 1 Klingon to make this a 3-ship Pack
-Have Rearranged each vessel to have 5 Fore weapons, 1 Aft Weapon, and a Hangar Slot, each ship coming with its own Unique Fighter. Aux Slot makes up for lack of Aft slots (Especially with 360' Arc) :P
-Have given each of the Warmonger Vessels their Unique stats and Devices/Consoles (including stats for Devices/Consoles)
-Have added the Unique Weapon types that come Standard with these vessels (Upgraded Versions available from Dilithium Store)
-Have added the Energy Phase Device details.
-Have Found some images that could be used as these 3 KDF ships (my Sketches arent finished and look dreadful lol)
Qunpu''yoj Warmonger
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_toUUYnt00SA/SimTdQbRM_I/AAAAAAAAAZA/G1W-j8yh3f0/s400/sona-1.jpg
the 1: Fractal Pulse Gun (Tac) would be situated between the two central Hull parapets.

Car'acal Warmonger (Will look like an updated larger version of this and more imposing and sharp!)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060825072949/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/9/95/Kzinti_vessel_c2150s.jpg/640px-Kzinti_vessel_c2150s.jpg blended with parts of this http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/RomanKL/Ship1_light.jpg

Vizimar'l Warmonger could look similar to this... yes i know this ship was used in (ENT: "Fight or Flight") but im not trying to say exactly like this, im just not sure what a Lethean ship would look like..
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080202211859/memoryalpha/en/images/8/84/Triglobulin_harvesters_vessel,_forward.jpg
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  • jarheardjarheard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    what a nice idea...well thought off..i like it :P
  • aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nvm, fail answer
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    aurigas7 wrote: »
    nvm, fail answer

    huh? what did ya say lol
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  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I honestly feel the KDF's answer to the Kumari should be the K'Vort Class.

    And it should come with all the current BoP costumes (or at least use them if you've unlocked them). I *really* want to fly a Ning'Tao with 5 weapons.
  • sesshoseki7sesshoseki7 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    While I don't particularly care which member-race it would be assigned to (although I favor Naussican designs over the others so far), the overall most equitable solution to both sides, so neither has real room to gripe about what the other has, is to simply do what the devs did with the recent cruisers...

    Copy and paste the identical stats, modules, and capabilities into a KDF equivalent craft... That way both are automatically balanced against one another and neither side gets to gripe about the grass being greener.


    Not to detract from the OP idea, I have no objections or subtractions, however it would be an "easier pitch" to get Cryptic's will to bring it about.
  • pegasussgcpegasussgc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I honestly feel the KDF's answer to the Kumari should be the K'Vort Class.

    And it should come with all the current BoP costumes (or at least use them if you've unlocked them). I *really* want to fly a Ning'Tao with 5 weapons.

    I agree, the K'Vort class seems to be the best or rather easiest option. I don't think it would be fair to have a BoP with 5 fore weapons, but 4 fore and 3 aft, battle cloak, universal stations, 30K hull or so (K'Vort is basically a light cruiser/heavy BOP) and a .8 or .9 shield mod and it would be a beast.

    Consoles: 3 Eng, 3 Sci, 4 Tac.

    I'm also in favor of a 5 tac console raptor or escort equivalent.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    My KDF main (pictured in sig) is a tactical officer. He got tired of flying around in a science ship so he now uses the vet ship. He has petitioned the council to allow his government to ship some of their escorts to be used.
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    He is still awaiting an answer.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    My KDF main (pictured in sig) is a tactical officer. He got tired of flying around in a science ship so he now uses the vet ship. He has petitioned the council to allow his government to ship some of their escorts to be used.

    He is still awaiting an answer.

    Brother, remember that war we fought with the Klingons a few years ago? The one we lost? Because most of our ships sucked?
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    ...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Nice idea on the ship :), but Cryptic won't add something comparable to KDF.
    We don't bring them enough money to spare the work for us.
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Is this a battlecruiser?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pegasussgc wrote: »
    I'm also in favor of a 5 tac console raptor or escort equivalent.

    The KDF answer to the Kumari would probably be best done as a Raptor.
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    Is this a battlecruiser?

    Yes, i was trying to make a Sci Battle Cruiser Build (Warmonger)
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The KDF answer to the Kumari would probably be best done as a Raptor.

    Yeah i think thats what a lot of people would want, i was trying to lead more towards a New type of Ship to give the KDF something new, and also for the Ferasan Species
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  • pegasussgcpegasussgc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Yeah i think thats what a lot of people would want, i was trying to lead more towards a New type of Ship to give the KDF something new, and also for the Ferasan Species

    CaptainGecko already implied that a Ferasan ship would be a Tactical leaning Carrier. IT was in the Priority one supplemental interview with captaingecko pt 2.
  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pegasussgc wrote: »
    CaptainGecko already implied that a Ferasan ship would be a Tactical leaning Carrier. IT was in the Priority one supplemental interview with captaingecko pt 2.

    Ah didnt watch that, but im guessing thats to counter the Federations Caitain Atrox Carrier....?!
    Dont get me wrong i Lurrve Carriers, just thought KDF had enough of these, and maybe could do with a Sci orientated Battle Cruiser, but if CaptianGecko has already implied something else then im happy.
    you Could always take 1 Aft Wpn Slot away and replace with Hangar Bay.!
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    one Aft Wpn Slot removed and Hangar Bay in place, with Ferasan Sphyker
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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    id prefer lethean instead of cats.

    CAT PEOPLE

    anyways lethean would suit a escort class like the andorian ships.

    must have 5 wepaons up front or not spending a penny
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    id prefer lethean instead of cats.

    CAT PEOPLE

    anyways lethean would suit a escort class like the andorian ships.

    must have 5 wepaons up front or not spending a penny


    oooh just had an awsome idea to make this into a 3-ship pack:

    Ferasan Sci/Warmonger - Car'acal

    Lethean Eng/Warmonger - Vizimar'l

    KlingonTac/Warmonger - Qunpu''yoj

    ill restat and apply to post
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ive done a re-stat on the Car'acal and added the Leathean and Klingon counterparts aswell, hope you like them....Be gentle lmao :o

    I know many may HATE the 1 Aft Slot but with the NEW Aux Slot it kinda makes up for it...i think?! lol
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Have now added all the Edits to this build/Design and even added the Lobi Device that i have come up with which has seen quite a bit of interest
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Be awesome to see what a Dev thought of this, hint hint JamJamz
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    patrickngo wrote: »

    We're getting hamstrung by the lack of two things:

    1. a WORKING science ship. the Gorn ships are equivalent to the WORST Star Fleet sci ships-the ones nobody takes outside of feature episode content.

    2. We're losing ground on escort/fast attack ships-the back bone of PvP and the true "Dominant" classes in the game. The Feds have two ships now, that can match DPS with the Lockbox Bug. We have zero, and nothing in the inventory to compensate for that lack.
    I'd love something on par with the vesta as a new science ship.

    But I really don't like any of the raptors. I'd like either something new (which the OP at least tried to do) or a Bird of Prey. Really don't want any more raptors. Ever.
  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Not happy with the Sketches ive tried to do, so is there anyone out there that would be willing to design the Car'acal, Vizimar'l and Qunpu''yoj Warmonger Vessels?

    What shape would you Expect these Ships to be
    intimidating? ugly? sleak? deadly? Daunting? Surreal...?
    i added a few designs that i took inspiration from but, couldnt get the drawings right.
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  • lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    We need a Mugato-Ship ...
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    *Energy Phase device - Device Slot Only - allows the user of the ship to pick the energy type of the Spinal Lance, Spinal Burst Overload, Halo Beam array, Phaser Lotus, Quantum Field Focus Phaser, Phaser Dispersal Array, also for the Disruptor Autocannon, Javelin, Disruptor Lotus, Fractal Pulse Gun. Once used the Device has a 15Min Cooldown until the next energy type can be chosen.
    It comes with each of the Dreadnought Retrofits.
    Can also be equipped to the: Dreadnought Cruiser, Fleet Dreadnought Cruiser, Chimera Heavy Destroyer, Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer, Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer, Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer, Andorian Kumari Escort, Andorian Charal Escort and the Andorian Khyzon Escort.
    !will be released in the Lobi Store for 200 Lobi (also available for KDF for the: Guramba Seige Destroyer, Bortasqu' Command Cruiser, Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser, Bortasqu' War Cruiser,Peghqu' Heavy Destroyer and the Car'acal Warmonger Vessel.
    but when the device is used on all other ships it boosts wpn power by +15% for 10secs and all beam abilities have slight damage output increase!
    For Information on the last device see Bishamonten/Shinto/Talon Class Dreadnoughts (Galaxy-X
    Refits/retrofits) in Federation Shipyards Forum

    This wouldn't go over well with most of the playerbase, unless it had another function besides switching the spinal weapons damage around. Allot of people would see this as a blatant money grab on cryptic's part. I might suggest in addition to that, make it also function as a battery of some kind.
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I like the idea, but having three seperate hulls that do slightly different things, doesn't really smack of klingon IMHO. I suppose if you can pick your hull no matter what you use, it might not be too bad though.
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  • spartanofborgspartanofborg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    This wouldn't go over well with most of the playerbase, unless it had another function besides switching the spinal weapons damage around. Allot of people would see this as a blatant money grab on cryptic's part. I might suggest in addition to that, make it also function as a battery of some kind.

    thats sort of why i gave it the ability to be equipped on other vessels, because its other atributes allow it to be used similar to the Red Matter Capacitor, but, only 15% for 10secs and only to weapon power, with the extra of making all beam atacks dish out slightly more damage depending on Boffs/Doffs and Captains powers.

    and yes, it wouldnt work having 3 different designs for a ship pack, but then the designs i got inspiration from are just that...designs that i want to blend to make the Car'acal, Vizimar'l and Qunpu''yoj Warmonger Ships

    been messing witrh my sketches again lol still not happy
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