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Playstation 4: new hope for Console STO?

general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
Sony Recently Unveiled the Playstation 4, a link to the page can be found below, and Sony's event made claims that, among other things, the new PlayStation platform will be open to episodic and free-to-play content. With new ways of games being distributed on PS4 is there hope to bringing STO further into the world of Console gaming? something Similar was done with EVE Online as its newest side game DUST 514 is out on PS3 and PC and linked to EVE so if your friend in EVE wants to take over a planet you hop on your PS3 and play a merc and help him take it.

So if thats possible will it be Possible to play STO on the PS4? Would you like the ability to play STO on the PS4 or possibly the Xbox 720? Do you think Perfect World would allow such a thing? Feel free to post your thoughts below but please no Console hating flames thank you.:cool:

Link to Reveal Post: http://reviews.cnet.com/ps4/
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  • wolfexile1wolfexile1 Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Not trying to hate on consoles here, But how would this work out?
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wolfexile1 wrote: »
    Not trying to hate on consoles here, But how would this work out?

    Well either they would make a ground based game like they did with DUST 514 or given how powerful the New PS4 will be they'll port the existing game to the console after making it PS4 compatible, Zen would be bought through PSN or PWE like you can on Steam and wether servers would be shared is possible
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  • bohiapbohiap Member Posts: 535
    edited February 2013
    The tech specs are impressive- for a console- but I don't see myself trying to play an MMO on a console. I don't see how it would work. The gaming features that I've heard about are basically already being done. It's got some next-gen sprinkles on it, but it's basically out there already. I don't think the PS4 is that much to get excited about.

    I don't play EVE. I tried to but it put me to sleep. I could see a secondary game that could have limited interaction with the MMO, but I don't see Cryptic being able to do that with STO.

    Something like the DOFF system maybe- that's what Gateway is for. But, a whole console game? That basically means writing a whole new game. First off it would be a minor miracle to get the licensing for it. Even then, Cryptic is a PC game developer. I doubt they have the right talent to do a console game. Second, given the state of STO, I don't think they have the man hours to do it if they wanted to.

    So no I don't see STO on PS4. It might be easier on XBOX since MS is moving everything to Windows 8 and Xbox was based off Direct X to begin with. But, I still think it's unworkable.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    1. Grab your USB Xbox controller and plug it into your PC.
    2. Start up STO on your PC and login.
    3. Under Options, enable your controller.
    4. Under Keybinds, configure your controller.
    5. Using keyboard, beam up from ESD into space.
    6. Control your ship using your new fancy controller!
    7. Ouila! Console gaming raised to the level of PC gaming! ;)
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I love that you can do that with the Xbox controller.

    It's my controller of choice because of this.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Well either they would make a ground based game like they did with DUST 514 or given how powerful the New PS4 will be they'll port the existing game to the console after making it PS4 compatible, Zen would be bought through PSN or PWE like you can on Steam and wether servers would be shared is possible

    I seriously doubt that PWE would like to share "a piece of the action" with PSN. :eek:
  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    A half decent laptop now costs less than what PS4 will at launch.

    Sony Online Entertainment are also the living antichrist so I hope PWE stays a million miles away from them.


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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Consoles have diverged so far from what I enjoyed as a child. I consider the PSOne (the little compact one) to be the zenith of console design.

    The current generation of consoles have lost their scope, they are grasping around randomly trying to find something to concentrate on, rebranding themselves as home entertainment hubs.
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  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    bohiap wrote: »
    The tech specs are impressive- for a console- but I don't see myself trying to play an MMO on a console. I don't see how it would work. The gaming features that I've heard about are basically already being done. It's got some next-gen sprinkles on it, but it's basically out there already. I don't think the PS4 is that much to get excited about.

    I don't play EVE. I tried to but it put me to sleep. I could see a secondary game that could have limited interaction with the MMO, but I don't see Cryptic being able to do that with STO.

    Something like the DOFF system maybe- that's what Gateway is for. But, a whole console game? That basically means writing a whole new game. First off it would be a minor miracle to get the licensing for it. Even then, Cryptic is a PC game developer. I doubt they have the right talent to do a console game. Second, given the state of STO, I don't think they have the man hours to do it if they wanted to.

    So no I don't see STO on PS4. It might be easier on XBOX since MS is moving everything to Windows 8 and Xbox was based off Direct X to begin with. But, I still think it's unworkable.
    Well it wouldnt be the First MMO on PSN, besides DUST 514 there's Free Realms, DC Universe and Even Playstation home, which is the PS3 exclusive MMO/ social place
    pyryck wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that PWE would like to share "a piece of the action" with PSN. :eek:
    Maybe, Maybe not. I think it would be a smart move $ wise and lets face it, money's at the top of PWE's list
    A half decent laptop now costs less than what PS4 will at launch.

    Sony Online Entertainment are also the living antichrist so I hope PWE stays a million miles away from them.
    I feel i must adress this in 2 parts:
    1) The PS4 will cost $400-$500 on launch, a Decent laptop costs $900-1300, so fail there (see here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080914201912AACQdIl)
    2) The Antichrist is a single person not a company so you sound dumb there and Microsoft and and PWE are both money grubbers as much if not more then Sony. Microsoft is more greedy btw.

    PS. A Decent Laptop is a matter of opinion depending on what it will be used for
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  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    A laptop capable of running Skyrim and STO with the settings bars all pretty is worth a lot less than that.

    I should know, I'm sitting in front of one right now.

    And the antichrist is a fictional character, if you want to get pedantic with me please don't use words if you don't know what they mean. I'm not asking for much.


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  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    A laptop capable of running Skyrim and STO with the settings bars all pretty is worth a lot less than that.

    I should know, I'm sitting in front of one right now.

    And the antichrist is a fictional character, if you want to get pedantic with me please don't use words if you don't know what they mean. I'm not asking for much.

    Well Spock depending on the brand the price of a laptop that can do that varies as well as the fact that Computer games graphics change every year or so making Laptops disposable as you cant upgrade graphics cards. The Anitchrist is also the opposite of jesus and is a biblical character. Describing sony as such is hardly just, and if you can't read the Anti-Flame waring then stay off the thread
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I'll just stick with my easily upgradeable PC desktop thank you very much.

    Nothing SONY offers is compareable to what I can do with it.
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Even if done, it will never be all on the same server....

    Xbox has gone on record stating it will not share server space with Sony. This is why Defiance will have different servers for every platform.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Just think about the expanding playerbase that we got/get with Free 2 Play! :rolleyes:

    We can have even more AFk'ers and ESD discussions about consoles vs PCs and infinitely more low-intelligence conversations through out the entire game! :rolleyes:
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    Just think about the expanding playerbase that we got/get with Free 2 Play! :rolleyes:

    We can have even more AFk'ers and ESD discussions about consoles vs PCs and infinitely more low-intelligence conversations through out the entire game! :rolleyes:

    Don't confuse Playstation with Xbox, I know people on Xbox and PS3, i've had both and Xbox is where the morons are. And you gotta take the good with the bad
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The content drought is bad enough already. Don't compound it by demanding the Dev's take a year to botch a console port.
  • cross821cross821 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wow that's all the power it has? Talk about hyping a weak system.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Don't confuse Playstation with Xbox, I know people on Xbox and PS3, i've had both and Xbox is where the morons are. And you gotta take the good with the bad

    I'm NOT confusing them. I'm just lumping them all together under the term "console-players". ;)

    And yes, I know only too well about taking the bad with the good...Cryptic HAD to add the KDF to play against the Feds at release. ;)
  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Feel free to post your thoughts below but please no Console hating flames thank you.:cool:

    Link to Reveal Post: http://reviews.cnet.com/ps4/
    Don't confuse Playstation with Xbox, I know people on Xbox and PS3, i've had both and Xbox is where the morons are. And you gotta take the good with the bad

    Does not compute....

    I don't personally care what people game on, there are morons everywhere. But a cross-platform STO will never happen, flat out facts sorry. Could you imagine the drop in playerbase off the PC version if 3 different platforms and servers existed?
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    I'm NOT confusing them. I'm just lumping them all together under the term "console-players". ;)

    And yes, I know only too well about taking the bad with the good...Cryptic HAD to add the KDF to play against the Feds at release. ;)

    But its unfair to do that, yeah there are annoying little kids on both consoles, but there are also mature players and the same can be said for PC gaming. :P
    gypsyblade wrote: »
    Does not compute....

    I don't personally care what people game on, there are morons everywhere. But a cross-platform STO will never happen, flat out facts sorry. Could you imagine the drop in playerbase off the PC version if 3 different platforms and servers existed?

    Perhaps its just my feeble dream but I would hope that the Console and PC servers would be combined. All Im saying is it would be nice to play such an amazing game as this whether your sitting infront of a Desktop, a Laptop or a Console.
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    If you really wanna play STO on a big screen with a controller, I'm quite sure that you can find the instructions on how to go about it. :)

    But seriously, consoles are designed to run "mostly-finished" games. They do have DLC for some titles, but the console crowd is not one to sit by for an hour or two each week while the STO updates are installed just so they can get in an do a quick PvP match or run a quick STF.

    Now add to that the process the console service owners run where they vet updates to games prior to allowing them to be pushed out to the players. Would you really want to wait a month to six weeks just to get a bug fixed in STO because XBox Live or PSN has to have time to check out the update prior to it being released to consoles?

    I can think of lots of reasons to NOT port STO over to console. I can't think of any positive reasons to port it over.
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    If you really wanna play STO on a big screen with a controller, I'm quite sure that you can find the instructions on how to go about it. :)

    But seriously, consoles are designed to run "mostly-finished" games. They do have DLC for some titles, but the console crowd is not one to sit by for an hour or two each week while the STO updates are installed just so they can get in an do a quick PvP match or run a quick STF.

    Now add to that the process the console service owners run where they vet updates to games prior to allowing them to be pushed out to the players. Would you really want to wait a month to six weeks just to get a bug fixed in STO because XBox Live or PSN has to have time to check out the update prior to it being released to consoles?

    I can think of lots of reasons to NOT port STO over to console. I can't think of any positive reasons to port it over.

    to each his own
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    In general, the PS4 looks like a good candidate for STO tech wise.

    The clock speed (estimated around 1.9 GHz) is on the low end. I don't think the extra cores would generally matter as much for STO as a higher clock speed would. I'd be surprised if STO uses more than two cores and in general STO would be better off with more speed, fewer cores, than more cores and a speed like that. It's above the minimum but not optimal.

    RAM is excellent.

    The onboard graphics card is a BEAST compared to 99% of the desktop graphics cards people playing STO will use.

    SSD hard drive is noticeably better in STO but not essential.

    As to laptops, you'd probably need to blow upwards of $800 to get one on par with the PS4 although a DESKTOP might be had for a price that's in the $600 range. Consoles almost always outprice computers on performance (but lose out on customizability and non-gaming relevant features/functionality).
  • captainbaileycaptainbailey Member Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    If you really wanna play STO on a big screen with a controller, I'm quite sure that you can find the instructions on how to go about it. :)

    Simple: Get a graphics card like mine that has hdmi out and hook it up to your 60inch plasma tv and voila there you have it!
    pyryck wrote: »
    1. Grab your USB Xbox controller and plug it into your PC.
    2. Start up STO on your PC and login.
    3. Under Options, enable your controller.
    4. Under Keybinds, configure your controller.
    5. Using keyboard, beam up from ESD into space.
    6. Control your ship using your new fancy controller!
    7. Ouila! Console gaming raised to the level of PC gaming! ;)

    if only it worked that way, been trying months to get it work right and there isnt enough buttons on the controller for all the BOFF skills to make it work right.
    Consoles have diverged so far from what I enjoyed as a child. I consider the PSOne (the little compact one) to be the zenith of console design.

    The current generation of consoles have lost their scope, they are grasping around randomly trying to find something to concentrate on, rebranding themselves as home entertainment hubs.

    So true, who gives a damn about twatter, crapbook, and all that other junk that sony is going to integrate into the PS4. Its not about gaming anymore its about what your "friends" are doing.
  • general1devongeneral1devon Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    In general, the PS4 looks like a good candidate for STO tech wise.

    The clock speed (estimated around 1.9 GHz) is on the low end. I don't think the extra cores would generally matter as much for STO as a higher clock speed would. I'd be surprised if STO uses more than two cores and in general STO would be better off with more speed, fewer cores, than more cores and a speed like that. It's above the minimum but not optimal.

    RAM is excellent.

    The onboard graphics card is a BEAST compared to 99% of the desktop graphics cards people playing STO will use.

    SSD hard drive is noticeably better in STO but not essential.

    As to laptops, you'd probably need to blow upwards of $800 to get one on par with the PS4 although a DESKTOP might be had for a price that's in the $600 range. Consoles almost always outprice computers on performance (but lose out on customizability and non-gaming relevant features/functionality).
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    Simple: Get a graphics card like mine that has hdmi out and hook it up to your 60inch plasma tv and voila there you have it!



    if only it worked that way, been trying months to get it work right and there isnt enough buttons on the controller for all the BOFF skills to make it work right.



    So true, who gives a damn about twatter, crapbook, and all that other junk that sony is going to integrate into the PS4. Its not about gaming anymore its about what your "friends" are doing.
    People who use laptops can't get a new graphics card -_- and social media is a big thing now
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    But seriously, consoles are designed to run "mostly-finished" games. They do have DLC for some titles, but the console crowd is not one to sit by for an hour or two each week while the STO updates are installed just so they can get in an do a quick PvP match or run a quick STF.

    Now add to that the process the console service owners run where they vet updates to games prior to allowing them to be pushed out to the players. Would you really want to wait a month to six weeks just to get a bug fixed in STO because XBox Live or PSN has to have time to check out the update prior to it being released to consoles?

    I agree. Install/patch times on a computer tend to be bad enough. On a console? Yeek. :eek:
    pyryck wrote: »
    I can think of lots of reasons to NOT port STO over to console. I can't think of any positive reasons to port it over.

    You mean like this one?
    if only it worked that way, been trying months to get it work right and there isnt enough buttons on the controller for all the BOFF skills to make it work right.

    Not even close. I witnessed a friend try it once, I wish I had gotten it on tape. :D
  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Perhaps its just my feeble dream but I would hope that the Console and PC servers would be combined. All Im saying is it would be nice to play such an amazing game as this whether your sitting infront of a Desktop, a Laptop or a Console.

    That would require Sony and Microsoft working together in some sort of harmony... have they ever?
  • dom1941dom1941 Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited February 2013
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    People who use laptops can't get a new graphics card -_- and social media is a big thing now

    Hey Dev:D and a consol MMO? I ve seen DCUO which is for a consol so..who knows might be posssble..
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  • ussrevravenussrevraven Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    They're not gonna port a 3+ year old game to a new hardware platform unless it was mega successful. And a spin-off/sidequel is even more unlikely.

    Besides, Cryptic might not even have the rights to pursue a game like that. Without knowing what their license covers, they might only have the exclusive rights for an MMO on the PC platform. Someone else might have console MMO rights.
  • rayusrayus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I was once eagerly anticipating and supporting the STO console port(s) before launch, but that fell through, and since then the game has changed quite a bit in such a way that makes a comfortably playable console version extremely unlikely. It's not impossible, but I don't think it's worth the effort, personally.

    PWE/Cryptic could certainly take advantage of the new hardware with a new title though, or something like Neverwinter which appears to be more controller friendly.
    A half decent laptop now costs less than what PS4 will at launch.

    LOL. You MIGHT be able to pull that off with a build it yourself desktop if you are an extraordinary bargain hunter, but thats still "half decent". A comparable laptop though? Not quite.
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