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Here's a thing that was said about a thing.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8178041&postcount=56
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8178041&postcount=56
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CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
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As long as there is no automatic penalty then it ought to be fine. That way if you do run into 4 people who just think it will be funny, at least you only lose that one match.
The AFKers really need to go.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Why do they have to hate you?
Why can't it just be a case that you're an Eng in an Escort and they want you gone, eh?
Perhaps you're a Tac in an Ambassador and they want you gone?
Perhaps you're a Tac in a Vo'Quv and they want you gone?
Perhaps you're an Eng in a Kamarag that's not healing anybody and they want you gone?
Perhaps you're a Sci that pops if somebody looks in your direction and they want you gone?
Perhaps you're a Sci in a BoP and they recognize you from when you were an Eng in an Escort, Tac in an Ambassador, Tac in a Vo'Quv, Eng in a Kamarag not healing, and the Sci that popped if somebody looked in your direction...and they want you gone?
It would easily be abused. It's not the solution.
The solution is to remove rewards for losing and paying attention to tickets generated about people AFKing/Griefing in a system that does not reward losing...and taking action so that the message gets out.
i also bet its the removal of pvp :P
the problems with a vote kick system are obvious, not including the fact that if you kick someone out there's almost no chance you'll get a replacement player into the game.
thats an issue that needs to be fixed first imo.
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One jerk, maybe, but not 4. WoW does it, and I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that their player base is generally less mature than STO.
The thing is that as long as the vote needs to be unanimous, it's exceedingly unlikely that a group would all unfairly target one player.
In other games that do vote-kicks, the only time it becomes a real issue is when most of a party queued together, and they want to get rid of the one PUG to make room for a friend of theirs.
But other games do it, and it has been well-received by the player-base.
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WoW does vote-kicks; the system works well for PvE, players generally like it, and abuses are rare enough that they can be dealt with by GMs. It works less-well for PvP because it takes long enough that a PvP team is likely to already be losing before a player gets kicked. Still if AFKers didn't get their dilithium, that would at least keep them out of the queues.
If Cryptic even just made it policy to consider AFKing a form of griefing and started punishing people when it was reported, that might help.
Automated boot/kick by vote doesn't really solve anything in the long term. Sure they're gone from that match. We need something that draws attention to a person's behavior and creates a headache for them in the form of dev/mod action, something that is longer lasting and more of a pain than getting booted just to re-que. Also, something that gives a person a chance to defend themselves if reported. I was in an awful match a few weeks ago with multiple players with less than 11k damage on the board at the end. If people get voted/reported for being new and doing next to no damage there needs to be a way to protect them.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
I believe it when i see it on holo.
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uhm, isn't there a patchday tomorrow? ;..;
Yep, with only the Tribble notes from Monday sitting out there...nothing about this in the least.
The only other thing mentioned is the Kumari 3pack. Maybe that's we he meant about doing something about PvP, eh? /cough /cough
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=560651
Well there you go... they waited until the last minute to drop it out (short of not testing it at all) - but there it is...
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Um, I used to play DoTA and it was abused often, if nothing else for lolz. Tbh, I can see it being worse in this game.
For example, player X is new dies quickly and gets booted instead of given a chance to learn through experience.
Or 3-4 pseudo Fleet RPers join, and kick players X and Y for using the a non-canon weapon type/skin/ship name etc.
Someone gets bored and tries PuGGing an off the wall lolz build, they get booted.
Someone uses an FoTM OP/Broken ability and gets booted despite everyone else using some other form of OP/Broken gear/ability.
A group of 4 team/Fleet PuG and have a Healer they get teamed with. They boot the Healer b/c they were "doing it right".
Someone decides they want to just Dogfight in C&H and gets booted for not capping.
Don't get me started on PvE. I've pugged w/enough know-it-alls in STFs this is just a bad way to solve the problem.
Let's be honest, there's already an easy way to solve the problem that's in the players control, use private queues.
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The potential for abuse is just too great to ignore. Look at how people abuse the Report Spam feature in zone chat. lol.
Kickvote systems are always abused. The effect may not be as widespread in STO due to the smaller, more tight knit community, but it will be abused. Trust me.
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