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The new Trek series (if there's gonna be one)
avarseir
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Should be based on events and occurences within the game, incorporating all the ship designs already available.. but minus all the lockbox ship in the hands of the FED/KDF factions. Iconians is an interesting story.
I really like to see Oddy as the Enterprise and/or maybe this new series could be based on a few ships rather than one single ship/station. (Armitage, Regent, Vesta, Oddy - the four musketeers).
CGI part should all be ready already since the game has pretty good (although there could be improvements e.g. aft beam weapon positioning on the oddy!!!)
We dont need big cast.. newer actors could be brought in to keep budget low, as long as their acting is good!
All in all, CBS i hope you're reading this thread.. go make us another Trek series. Half of the work is already done. Get STO team on board
**should this belong in ten forward?
I really like to see Oddy as the Enterprise and/or maybe this new series could be based on a few ships rather than one single ship/station. (Armitage, Regent, Vesta, Oddy - the four musketeers).
CGI part should all be ready already since the game has pretty good (although there could be improvements e.g. aft beam weapon positioning on the oddy!!!)
We dont need big cast.. newer actors could be brought in to keep budget low, as long as their acting is good!
All in all, CBS i hope you're reading this thread.. go make us another Trek series. Half of the work is already done. Get STO team on board
**should this belong in ten forward?
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As for CGI Ships, they definitely would not use the STO ship models since they are low quality. And even though they use 3D Max (last I heard this is the program Cryptic uses), they have to redo the model to for high quality (making it realisitc). That's going to take time and money, which they want to save and likely reuse existing CGI models such as the Defiant, Promtheus, and Intrepid.
All in all, if you want this to happen then by all means contact CBS and pitch your idea. In the mean time, why not get some people to make a Fan Series like those of New Voyages or Renegades, and bring STO to life.
The show would have its own creative people to come up with things such as ship design. If they ever show the Enterprise F on screen, it will probably be something you have never seen before and STO might have to go back and change the ship model in places where the Odyssey is used.
There have been a lot of serious ideas for a new series pitched since Enterprise was canceled so I am not getting my hopes up until it is confirmed that a pilot will be produced.
actually. CBS approved of the odyssey becoming enterprise F so pretty much if CB S uses enterprise F in a show they will likely use the odyssey. why hold a contest approved by CBS and cannonizing the Ent-F's ship if they dont actually use it?
If there is a new series it will probably be based on New Trek, the die is cast and since the movie, Abrams Trek is now going to be the prime universe where new stories will be told, the Trek we know is now history. Our Trek doesn't cease to exist, but it does cease to move forward. Unless there is a movie that resets Abrams reset, this is how things are going to be.
the odyssey might have been created for STO, but CBS Owns the rights to it, unlike other Game based ships, meaning CBS can do whatever they want with it, include putting it onscreen.
CBS may have had some level of sponsorship in Cryptic's design the next Enterprise contest, but I do not believe anywhere it was explicitly stated or promised that if the Enterprise F were ever shown on-screen, it would be the Odyssey. Also, royalties and ownership rights for intellectual property is a very complicated and confusing subject even if you know the full terms of all agreements and are an expert in the subject, so I am not sure that the question of whether CBS even has the legal right to use the design without PWE's permission is that cut and dry. If I am in error, please point out where this was overtly stated.
If the Enterprise F is ever shown on screen, I suspect that it will be up to the production staff and art department to design it, and I suspect that even if CBS owns right to the Odyssey design without paying royalties, they would prefer to make their own design, especially if the show is based around the ship instead of a one-off appearance.
true, but that doesnt mean the Enterprise F cant be an odyssey. doesnt mean an odyssey class cant show up in the show. im just saying unlike a majority of custom designs (atrox, chimera for example) arent canon, the odyssey has the chance to become on screen canon easier than other game based ships, since CBS owns the rights.
I've heard talk of a series based around starfleet Academy way back. Bunch of other ideas have been pitched as well. None have been choosen.
Startrek: Convoy
A group of modified ships is assigned a special task, not to just explore space, but to explore alternate realities. They'd have special dimensional drives along side the ususual warp drives.
Maybe incursions from alternate realities, like the mirror and Abrams universes amoung others, pushing Star Fleet to search for allies and potiential threats in alternate universes.
Naturally support would be hard to come by at times, hence a convoy instead of a single ship. The convoy would be headed by an Admiral on a major ship.
Naturally the Klingons would here of this and create thier own convoy made up of Klingon like BoPs and Battle Cruisers and allied ships, like Corsairs and Grumbas. This would create tenison and rivalary to the show.
What do you think of this idea?
I think Captain Worf would be better.
A new ship? I should hope not! DS9 showed how a static location can allow for long ongoing epic stories, instead of it being purely about the wacky alien species of the week.
DS9 also did not start getting good until they got a new ship.
Said ship was part of an overarching story arc. Also, it was actually a cool ship... a first for Trek!
It's a thousand years or more past established events in the Prime Universe. The Alpha Quadrant is a mess due to [major war/extinction event/insert cataclysmic event here.] A new crew of rag-tag [rebels/misfits/freedom fighters/whatever] hoping for a better [future/smuggling opportunities/whatever] pull an old Starfleet ship out of [mothballs/crater of a dead planet/abandoned shipyard/abandoned museum] and set off to eventually restore the Federation. Obviously, that ship is the Enterprise [A/B/E/some other letter.]
Joss Whedon directs and Nathon Fillion stars, just to shut up both fanbases once and for all. Waste not, want not.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_First_Adventure
The things I find interesting is that much of the plot sounds like the 2009 Star Trek movie. And if you scroll down to the pictures, the "Enterprise" (before the NCC-1701), looks awfully like an NX (even before the Akira was created).
I won't lie, I do think there is potenital with the alternate reality plot, but to have a plot solely traveling between Parallel Universes seems pushing it for Trek. There was an old Sci Fi show called Sliders that seemed to use this and people just grew tired of it.
They could, if the plot is interesting enough. But how would you make it different than DS9?
The main cast are relatively young (late twenties to early thirties), with a captain that has just received his first command - he is neither the dashing Kirk, the astute diplomat Picard, but not overly flawed either. In essence, a group of ordinary Starfleet officers that would soon be plunged into extraordinary circumstances.
The ship (USS Odyssey) is a brand-new (and possibly the last of the line) Intrepid-class. This reinforces the "ordinaryness" of the cast, as they don't get an exotic new ship design right off the bat). It has been outfitted with an upgraded version of the QSD fitted on most major Starfleet vessels, as a testament to the shifting technological level in the Trek universe.
Supporting cast would include:
- The main cast's all-Klingon counterparts - essentially the honorable enemy, whom the main cast would cross paths with fairly regularly.
- Other recurring Federation ships - these include a small science vessel (Nova-class USS Hinata) and a SCE support ship (Saber-class USS Brunel), as well as Captain Shon and the Enterprise-F itself
- Guest appearances by Trek veterans - in a "where are they now?" flavor.
So far, I've drafted the screenplay for the pilot episode (the SS Azura rescue mission), which I'd like some of you guys to critique as I feel it's a bit linear.
I've also put together some conceptual artwork on my deviantart account.
The vast majority of the fiction being written both in novels and in STO are in the prime timeline. It wouldn't surprise me to see Bad Robot do something as a series, but it wouldn't surprise me to see CBS do something either.
We've already told CBS that if they were to ever consider a new TV series, we would be thrilled to work with them on crossovers with STO. But that is a big pie in the sky right now.
It comes in 4 parts and all 4 parts are worth watching if you're a trek fan. However I mention this summit because they talked a little about their ideas for a new Trek series in part 4, at around the 6 minute mark. Here are the youtube links:
Hey, let Manny Coto run one of them. Doesn't matter which. I'd just like to see how he'd build a new Trek show of his own, as opposed to being brought in to take over another one already in progress.
season 1-2-3
story arc about klingons and they do it from THEIR perspective. can add loads of canon and flavor, and new ship designs. do battles that were talked about but never shown on tv....
season 4-5-6
romulan arc. again from their side, so the main characters are all rommies.
dont really have good suggestions what you could do here, but ive never been a rommie fan.
season 7-8-9
cardassian story arc. shown from the cardassian arc. could all be about the invasion of bajor (set pre-DS9) or the whole rebuilding effort after DS9.
at least, this seems like a great new way to do a new TV show while not having to go further ahead in time or invent a bunch of new stuff for the feds
The biggest mistake with Enterprise is that they missed out on all the cameos TNG, DS9 and Voyager offer. Setting it sometime in the early 25th century, or even in the late 24th century (I'm not sure exactly when Nemesis was supposed to take place, but basically any point after that is fair game).
The other option that I think might work, but one which can always be saved for the future (unlike Frakes as captain), would be some sort of Section 31 time travel oriented series which has the freedom to set something like 1/3rd to 1/2 of all episodes in any timeline. The other advantage to waiting on this series would be that as CGI improves, they'll be able to better incorporate material from the older series, allowing them to convey how Section 31 works behind the scenes to ensure the stability of the timeline.
The other other option would be to ditch the dreams of a full seven season series, and aim for something short but sweet. Options include series intended for 1-3 years length, or even some sort of mini-series (or even just very short, focused seasons).
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I'd watch a Titan series. But mainly because those books get the starship back to what it is I want out of a Trek series: To Boldly Go ...
Riker's crew on the Titan would be hard to put on screen though. Still, all I want out of a new Trek series is a ship out there exploring the Galaxy, seeking out new life and new civilizations.
It could be the Enterprise. The Titan. The Odyssey. I'm cool with whatever.
The series that very nearly was: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier
The series we probably don't want, that may still happen: http://io9.com/5927598/new-star-trek-tv-show-could-be-an-animated-series
Personally I think an STO-timeline series is the perfect opportunity for STO to get a coherent plot bible, an impetus to follow it, and the funding to keep it moving.
You don't even have to limit it to the Enterprise-F either, it could be a show with a dual-focus one half on the Fed and the Ent-F, the other on the Klingon Empire and the captain and crew of the Bortasqu' as they navigate the murky and blood filled waters of Klingon politics while fighting a war the Federation that is as hot as it is cold.
Ah, but it's nice to dream sometimes