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New Miranda Class please
darramouss1
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Hello people.
I've been thinking that the Miranda class needs a new lease on life. Sure, we get to fly it when we start (well, those who haven't bought z-store ships), but I really think we should have a higher level version of the ship.
Why? Well, the ship is iconic. Kahn almost defeated Kirk in Star Trek II in one, they fought at alongside the Defiant at the battle for DS9, they fought the Borg defending Earth in First Contact, etc etc etc.
Now, by no means should this be a VA ship!!! That would be ludicrous. A commander or captain variant, however, would be quite cool. Load it up with a new console and stick it in the z-store. This would help the fact that not too many things have been going in to the z-store lately. It could be a cruiser/escort hybrid.
Anyone else like to see the Miranda get revamped? Comment if you do.
Oh, please no hijacks about Feds getting all the ships from the klinks. If you have a ship you'd like to see in the game then make a thread that suggests the idea. I'd support it even though I don't play klink.
I've been thinking that the Miranda class needs a new lease on life. Sure, we get to fly it when we start (well, those who haven't bought z-store ships), but I really think we should have a higher level version of the ship.
Why? Well, the ship is iconic. Kahn almost defeated Kirk in Star Trek II in one, they fought at alongside the Defiant at the battle for DS9, they fought the Borg defending Earth in First Contact, etc etc etc.
Now, by no means should this be a VA ship!!! That would be ludicrous. A commander or captain variant, however, would be quite cool. Load it up with a new console and stick it in the z-store. This would help the fact that not too many things have been going in to the z-store lately. It could be a cruiser/escort hybrid.
Anyone else like to see the Miranda get revamped? Comment if you do.
Oh, please no hijacks about Feds getting all the ships from the klinks. If you have a ship you'd like to see in the game then make a thread that suggests the idea. I'd support it even though I don't play klink.
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Why not? You yourself stated they fought at alongside the Defiant at the battle for DS9, they fought the Borg defending Earth in First Contact, etc etc etc. Why couldn't it be as powerful as a saber? Or a Ferengi Marauder? Or a Vulcan science ship? The whole idea of what can or can't be a VA ship has decayed so much with the lockbox lotto that I'm not really sure why it's worth a debate anymore. The Miranda will be less powerful than a Galor or a Bug Ship or whatever. So it should be a-OK in terms of what's what. Howbout this, make it an RA ship instead? One bump below the VA, sort of. And definitely below whatever pops out of a lottery box.
Funny... I always thought it was "Blown to pieces alongside the Defiant" xD
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This. A thousand times this.
Heck, I'd be happy if they just replaced the standard ShiKahr with that.
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This...
In the Dominion War and against the Borg the only thing I saw from the Miranda was it getting blown to bits all over the screen. Even in Star Trek II, the Miranda catches the Enterprise with pants down/no shields and still the Connie takes a beating and keeps on going. However when the Miranda has no shields, Kirk blows it to pieces with 2 torpedoes and some random phaser fire.
At least the Connie/Excelsior are tankish and were shown to be pretty durable ships in the Star Trek films and shows. The Miranda though is mostly just cannon fodder.
That having been said, I don't mind those that want to have their nostalgic ship later on in the game. They could do a variant like they did for the Nebula and Galaxy to upate the look so it feels more like an updated ship and make it playable at Commander/Captain level. Especially for Engineer, who I feel has the worst ship options at Commander, but at least we have the Ambassador now along with the Excelsior.
The Miranda fared a little better, right up until DS9 when they were cannon fodder with warp nacelles. Those things got taken down by the dozen. Even in Kirk's era, they were a budget starship, a mid-weight ship. Anything it could do, a Connie could do better. That's what made Khan laying a smack down on the Enterprise such a shocker, since he did it in a worse ship. In STO, Kirk'd likely have called hax and reported Khan to a GM.
That said, there's so much that made it to tier 5 since the Fleet system came into being that I don't suppose there's many good reasons to exclude anything at this point. If a Sabre or Nova, ships that canonically were inferior to contemporary ships like the Defiant or Prometheus or Intrepid are now just as tough as them, then what's the point of saying anything's too old? Hell, KDF-side I could fly a D7, a class retired by TMP.
Yes yes yes yes yes!
That ship is sweet, I've loved it for a long time!
Put a Miranda in a lottery lockbox with some other fancy stuff, and viola, instant excuse for a top tier Miranda.
This game doesn't follow the rules you all seem to think it does.
I had a crazy idea for a Tier 5 Miranda. To keep the orginal feel of a balanced cruiser\escort\science vessel, instead of giving it 5 BO slots, cmd, ltc, 2 lts, ens, give it 3 cmd slots, 1 sci, 1 tac, 1 eng. As a RA ship, it would also have 3 of each console to keep the balance. It would keep dual cannons, give it +5 power to all and sensor analysis or maybe Sub systems targeting. Weapons would be 4 fore, 3 aft, ie in the middle, and 3 device slots.
I just wish that they hadn't made all the minor ships appear to have NO SHIELDS during the battles...
That looked stupid to me, not Cool.
What Captain would go into battle with out shields raised.
Every time that happened, it pushed me beyond the make-believable zone into the Jackass Producer/Director zone.
:rolleyes:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
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wow that looks, well, sexy :P GIMME
I like this idea please make it so
Dude that's crazy.
They've used up the Round & Oval ones?
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
They could even use the Miranda as a more "Science" type as well, or a "Science/Tactical" ship.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Seems like Starfleet has a history of making pocket cruisers out of whatever larger cruisers exist. Constitution - Miranda, Excelsior - Centaur, Galaxy - Nebula.
4 weps front and 3 back
can equip cannons
Tac: LT CMDR
Tac: LT
So you could have: TT1, and CSV or THY 2 or BO3
ENG: CMDR
ENG: ENS
SCI: LT CMDR
So you could have TSS and HE anf one good Sci trick
consoles:
TAC 3
ENG 4
SCI 2
Turn rate 16
base hull 38k
shield Mod 0.9
crew 185
Special ability/Console: Double bonus to "go down fighting" and "Ramming speed" and "Abandon ship" Shorter respawn timer by %50
So the closer you are to blowing up the more dangerous you are. (You could always quote Khan "Noo you can't get awaaaay")