I have seen a bit of discussion recently on the new upcoming 'content', with the strong possibility that it will be paid access only much like Blizzard does with their WoW 'Expansions'.
This does not excite me one bit. I enjoyed the Winter Event, and I also have enjoyed playing the new feature episode with Denise Crosby even though I felt it was a bit on the short side. However, between having a blast in the 'old' STF system and what has been released in Season 7 thus far I am apathetic toward it at best.
Of course, hindsight is 20/20 but I feel it is a viable question to be asking at this point in STO's development and the general direction it seems to be taking from a fiscal standpoint. Let us assume that the price model, based on some other publisher's titles, would be anywhere from $29.99 - $49.99.
Taking what we have seen from Season 7, in your opinion(s) would you have paid for Season 7 as an 'Expansion' if that were the only way of playing that content?
I have seen a bit of discussion recently on the new upcoming 'content', with the strong possibility that it will be paid access only much like Blizzard does with their WoW 'Expansions'.
This does not excite me one bit. I enjoyed the Winter Event, and I also have enjoyed playing the new feature episode with Denise Crosby even though I felt it was a bit on the short side. However, between having a blast in the 'old' STF system and what has been released in Season 7 thus far I am apathetic toward it at best.
Of course, hindsight is 20/20 but I feel it is a viable question to be asking at this point in STO's development and the general direction it seems to be taking from a fiscal standpoint. Let us assume that the price model, based on some other publisher's titles, would be anywhere from $29.99 - $49.99.
Taking what we have seen from Season 7, in your opinion(s) would you have paid for Season 7 as an 'Expansion' if that were the only way of playing that content?
in answer to your question,no i would not have paid for season 7
Unless something has changed, we've been told time and again over the years that Cryptic won't be charging for access to new content.
I don't very much care so long as it passes for an actual expansion, and I wouldn't much care if the romulan faction itself was pay only so long as all the other new content is not.
I d like they pay my gold account back since the season 7, the repution is nothing else than a dilithium grinding. All things we used to have before like the maco and omega set that cost about 1 borg prototype = 2000dilithium now they cost likely 10 times more and i dont even told about the energy credit that we have to spend to buy components that needed to build things up, many things have been taken away like space weapons and borg duty officer ...:(
PW dont charge for content. they charge for the bells and whistles. unless they suddenly have a fundamentally shift in policy you wont be charged in the future.
would i pay for 7? yes I would, as ive enjoyed it and certainly gotten my entertainment out of it. i assume it would cost ?15-20 if they did so that nothing compared to what i spend on the game in general.
Depends on what I'm being charged for. Would I pay for access to the New Romulus zone? Sure, for a few bucks and I wouldn't really mind.
Would I pay for season 7, including access to half the end game gear (rep system), all of the new sci consoles and boffs (embassy), etc? Probably, just to keep up, but I would like to think I wouldn't keep doing it, and I'd scream about it the enitre time like someone was beating me with a lead pipe wrapped in barbed wire.
Charging for some completely new zone or something like that is fine, as long as the price is reasonable, but something like season 7 which locked stuff away behind a new system, so that you have to pay for access and then pay again to get the stuff, that's too much.
And if the release formerly known as season 8 is going to cost 30 bucks, it had better be a full level 1 to 50 Romulan faction with full line ups for missions, ships, kits, everything that the feds have, particularly since most all of that stuff is in the game for the NPCs. If its going to cost 50, then I'd expect a fair amount of voice acting as well.
I have seen a bit of discussion recently on the new upcoming 'content', with the strong possibility that it will be paid access only much like Blizzard does with their WoW 'Expansions'.
I am sorry to have to point this out to anyone, but a "WoW expansion" has more content and new things than 3 or 4 times what STO has right now. Its worth every penny.
I am sorry to have to point this out to anyone, but a "WoW expansion" has more content and new things than 3 or 4 times what STO has right now. Its worth every penny.
Yes, but WoW's monthly income is more than the total cost to develop CO, STO, and Neverwinter. They can put that much stuff in with that much income, and they had a huge budget from the start since they had the money from ******** sales.
If STO spent that much money, they wouldn't get the sales to cover it, no matter how good the content was; there are other factors involved than just effort and skill.
It's just not going to happen.
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Let's see... A massive ground zone, a new sector block, content that is IMPOSSIBLE to blow right through in even a whole month? I would have paid 1500z for it if it was accessible via C-store unlock.
I don't understand why the grind-padding is seen as a good thing. It's artificially stretching stuff out by forced repetition. It's at best a necessary evil.
But when it's mostly attached to a dull-as-rocks setting that has more in common with a Guild Wars 2 starting zone (except the fun part) than what a Starfleet captain should be spending their time on, it's just something that I wish they hadn't spent resources on. I can barely stand to beam down to New Romulus.
From my perspective, Season 7 pretty much only added systems that lock shiny things away behind teeth-pulling grind, so no, I wouldn't have paid for it.
I'm afraid no, the content was over with within two months. And I really hate the extra work I have to do with Starbase Embassies, which Cryptic gives no consideration for small fleets at all.
Probably would have paid for the Anniversary FE Mission (best Content within the last year), but Season 7 no way, they should have paid me for 2h of repetitive Bunny Chasing to see 5 short Cutscenes ...
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Taking what we have seen from Season 7, in your opinion(s) would you have paid for Season 7 as an 'Expansion' if that were the only way of playing that content?[/QUOTE]
Heck YES. Most of us always complaining and whining no matter what. What's the alternative...SWTOR? or watching reruns of some awful shows like Gilligan's island
I have seen a bit of discussion recently on the new upcoming 'content', with the strong possibility that it will be paid access only much like Blizzard does with their WoW 'Expansions'.
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Taking what we have seen from Season 7, in your opinion(s) would you have paid for Season 7 as an 'Expansion' if that were the only way of playing that content?
Given that I hate grind I would not have paid since I dislike expansions which remove stuff rather than enhance stuff. The first statement of yours though is a bit misleading as it really should have said 'I have been hearing, and wish to spread, Rumours that we will need to pay for the next expansion separately.'
A year ago i would have paid for something like this.....now at this stage i have no intrest in investing any more of my cash in this game now....i will follow this games example and limp along with it with everything i have until the inevitable......sad really.....so much potential never tapped.:(
STO did spend that kind of money. When it first started. Cryptic was brought in to do it on the cheap because Perpetual blew through big chunks of money. And true to form, it's been done on the cheap.
Charging for rep grind though? That's a little backwards.
imho Season 7 was not much more than a $10 DLC Map pack for Call of Duty or Halo maybe.
that is the PvE Queue maps that i consider the actual content of Season 7
the Rep System was only a convenient System to make us replay the few new maps and a bunch of old maps to no end AND suck dilithium + EC out of our pockets.
New Romulus... i'm not really sure what to compare that zone with.
you have the 5 missions that are, real short and don't have any real storyline to convey either. it's all like bits and pieces all over the place... more like flavor, the Zone itself is... not as big as one would think and the activities are less than entertaining. More like a tutorial zone of any other MMO i can think off (only here it is labeled Endgame.)
maybe if one liked this kind of content... another $5-10
lets say $25 for Season 7 would have been an pricetag i would accept, if that was the way they were making money, which it is not.
Pay for Season 7? Absolutely not. New Romulus is scenic, and there are some new things to do around there, but it's not something that keeps my attention for long. I'm not fond of "adventure zones", I much prefer episodes. The reputation system is almost completely useless to me.
Don't encourage PWE to charge money for updates. Bad OP, bad.
I would pay for Season 5 STF stuff to come back: STF Store, STF Runs, and STF drops.
I would pay for the old STF's to come back , absolutely -- not for the drops , for the 1-2 hour of adventure with ppl whom you get to know a little .
Unlike the current 10-15 minute "gg" atmosphere .
I came back for the Anniversary event. The event was fun. I was surprised and happy to see STO make a new FE with voice acting. Thanks, Cryptic!
Next I went to New Romulus. The zone looks good, and it starts out with a good premise. Then I realized these guys just want me to grind. I finished the starter mission with several new types of collectible junk. I decided I'd seen enough and left.
I like some of the UI improvements, but it looks like most of the Season 7's content is for grinders. I'll probably check out a couple of the new Foundry missions before I leave again, but it doesn't look like I've missed anything by skipping Season 7 (and most of 6).
I'm hoping that the big "not season 8" delivers something I want to play and an excuse to give STO some money. STO's a good game, but it's been forced to make most of its new content grindy to keep people playing. So ... thanks to the grinders for keeping the game alive, and here's to hoping that STO is doing well enough to make some interesting content.
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I certainly hope you are correct, but still wouldn't put anything past them at this point.
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in answer to your question,no i would not have paid for season 7
I don't very much care so long as it passes for an actual expansion, and I wouldn't much care if the romulan faction itself was pay only so long as all the other new content is not.
would i pay for 7? yes I would, as ive enjoyed it and certainly gotten my entertainment out of it. i assume it would cost ?15-20 if they did so that nothing compared to what i spend on the game in general.
Would I pay for season 7, including access to half the end game gear (rep system), all of the new sci consoles and boffs (embassy), etc? Probably, just to keep up, but I would like to think I wouldn't keep doing it, and I'd scream about it the enitre time like someone was beating me with a lead pipe wrapped in barbed wire.
Charging for some completely new zone or something like that is fine, as long as the price is reasonable, but something like season 7 which locked stuff away behind a new system, so that you have to pay for access and then pay again to get the stuff, that's too much.
And if the release formerly known as season 8 is going to cost 30 bucks, it had better be a full level 1 to 50 Romulan faction with full line ups for missions, ships, kits, everything that the feds have, particularly since most all of that stuff is in the game for the NPCs. If its going to cost 50, then I'd expect a fair amount of voice acting as well.
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I am sorry to have to point this out to anyone, but a "WoW expansion" has more content and new things than 3 or 4 times what STO has right now. Its worth every penny.
Or, to put it another way - things I like about Season 7:
Mine Trap and...
nope - that's it.
Yes, but WoW's monthly income is more than the total cost to develop CO, STO, and Neverwinter. They can put that much stuff in with that much income, and they had a huge budget from the start since they had the money from ******** sales.
If STO spent that much money, they wouldn't get the sales to cover it, no matter how good the content was; there are other factors involved than just effort and skill.
It's just not going to happen.
I don't understand why the grind-padding is seen as a good thing. It's artificially stretching stuff out by forced repetition. It's at best a necessary evil.
But when it's mostly attached to a dull-as-rocks setting that has more in common with a Guild Wars 2 starting zone (except the fun part) than what a Starfleet captain should be spending their time on, it's just something that I wish they hadn't spent resources on. I can barely stand to beam down to New Romulus.
From my perspective, Season 7 pretty much only added systems that lock shiny things away behind teeth-pulling grind, so no, I wouldn't have paid for it.
Taking what we have seen from Season 7, in your opinion(s) would you have paid for Season 7 as an 'Expansion' if that were the only way of playing that content?[/QUOTE]
Heck YES. Most of us always complaining and whining no matter what. What's the alternative...SWTOR? or watching reruns of some awful shows like Gilligan's island
Given that I hate grind I would not have paid since I dislike expansions which remove stuff rather than enhance stuff. The first statement of yours though is a bit misleading as it really should have said 'I have been hearing, and wish to spread, Rumours that we will need to pay for the next expansion separately.'
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STO did spend that kind of money. When it first started. Cryptic was brought in to do it on the cheap because Perpetual blew through big chunks of money. And true to form, it's been done on the cheap.
Charging for rep grind though? That's a little backwards.
that is the PvE Queue maps that i consider the actual content of Season 7
the Rep System was only a convenient System to make us replay the few new maps and a bunch of old maps to no end AND suck dilithium + EC out of our pockets.
New Romulus... i'm not really sure what to compare that zone with.
you have the 5 missions that are, real short and don't have any real storyline to convey either. it's all like bits and pieces all over the place... more like flavor, the Zone itself is... not as big as one would think and the activities are less than entertaining. More like a tutorial zone of any other MMO i can think off (only here it is labeled Endgame.)
maybe if one liked this kind of content... another $5-10
lets say $25 for Season 7 would have been an pricetag i would accept, if that was the way they were making money, which it is not.
Don't encourage PWE to charge money for updates. Bad OP, bad.
I would pay for the old STF's to come back , absolutely -- not for the drops , for the 1-2 hour of adventure with ppl whom you get to know a little .
Unlike the current 10-15 minute "gg" atmosphere .
Next I went to New Romulus. The zone looks good, and it starts out with a good premise. Then I realized these guys just want me to grind. I finished the starter mission with several new types of collectible junk. I decided I'd seen enough and left.
I like some of the UI improvements, but it looks like most of the Season 7's content is for grinders. I'll probably check out a couple of the new Foundry missions before I leave again, but it doesn't look like I've missed anything by skipping Season 7 (and most of 6).
I'm hoping that the big "not season 8" delivers something I want to play and an excuse to give STO some money. STO's a good game, but it's been forced to make most of its new content grindy to keep people playing. So ... thanks to the grinders for keeping the game alive, and here's to hoping that STO is doing well enough to make some interesting content.