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Tact capt in an escort VS Sci capt in a sci vessel. Is it a one sided deal?
kronplah78
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Hi STO community,
I'm still learning lots about PvP, I do have some previous PvP experience, and as well as attending the boot camp. I generally do average in PvP, and in most 1 vs 1 matches with friends/fleetmates I've come out victorious.
That is except against one player. I believe I was up against a Vesta/Sci capt, and he used runabouts as his pets. Barely could scratch his hull, the sci power debuffs he threw were quite overwhelming, and he added more insult to injury by using chroniton torps to debuff my speed and turn rate, as well as target subsystem attacks. **sigh**
I have APO to counter the tractor beams/holds, and I always run my engines at 50, with my capt skills and gear is currently boosted to 66.
The only ship I use to fill the escort role is my Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. I just want to see what constructive feedback I can get, as I do want to improve as a PvP'er. So my question is, was there no possible way to win?
I'm still learning lots about PvP, I do have some previous PvP experience, and as well as attending the boot camp. I generally do average in PvP, and in most 1 vs 1 matches with friends/fleetmates I've come out victorious.
That is except against one player. I believe I was up against a Vesta/Sci capt, and he used runabouts as his pets. Barely could scratch his hull, the sci power debuffs he threw were quite overwhelming, and he added more insult to injury by using chroniton torps to debuff my speed and turn rate, as well as target subsystem attacks. **sigh**
I have APO to counter the tractor beams/holds, and I always run my engines at 50, with my capt skills and gear is currently boosted to 66.
The only ship I use to fill the escort role is my Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. I just want to see what constructive feedback I can get, as I do want to improve as a PvP'er. So my question is, was there no possible way to win?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] THE POWER OF KRATOS!!!
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sci ships can be spiked in half though, you will have fleeting moments to strike, make it count. of course if your on a team, your going to be in much better shape. a good sci/sci can be very close to unbeatable for a normal escort
1vs1 PvP have little to non sense, is team oriented.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
And I have to agree with the other posters, PVP is a team based game. And 1v1's against anything other than escorts aren't that great, as tanking 1 Escort is pretty damn easy.
Against an entire team, my build is hard pressed, as most of it's powers save for Chroniton Spreads are single target. Unless I have backup, I will die. Quickly.
Because A good Science Captain will always have the advantage of Sub Nucelonic Beam.. And I bow before it's god like powers to nerf me always at the worst possible times...
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
It's pretty one sided. His damn subnuke is what gives me the most trouble.
Group PvP is a bit different. He's not nearly as annoying, probably because of focused fire or there being so much going on he has to keep switching targets.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
Tac/Sci is brutal.
I will not deny either.
SIGH....
thats right,
FEAR ME AND MY MIGHTY SCI!
-waits for all to cower in fear of him-
Do you even Science Bro?
B'rel can transphasic him to death, and have lots of sci spam of your own to cover your escapes whenever he decloaks you. Sci ship have weak hull so weak against transphaic spam, use transphasic torps, dpb mines and cluster torp, and use torp doffs to keep the cluster reloading fast, once it crits he is dead. Use the mines before cluster to make more spam so harder for him to shoot it down and fire it point blank range, and scramble him a lot to.
That being said had a great fight in two vestas me as a tac captain other guy sci.
Getting subnuked on an attack run then tracktored into a cloud of trico mines is just so wrong.
Still managed to get more kills in the end mostly cause of how much damage the quantum focus beam puts out when buffed up. Would have never been able to kill him if I didnt have that to spike with.
Still between two vestas the universe looses, that area of space is now a new Bermuda triangle.
-Cowers in fear of the all powerful sci captain-
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I'd be more then happy to take my "weak hulled" vesta against your trans bop. Hit me up in game @matteo716 and I'm sure we can work/film it for the masses to enjoy.
Do you even Science Bro?
Every player should always carry sci team :cool:
If you're pugging yeah, but with a proper premade setup absolutely not.
The same fleet mate also has a B'rel transphasic torpedo. Or, used to. He used to love it, but now is saying that it's a pain in the butt to try and coordinate 2x THY or 1x THY and 1x TS. I prefer a build with various torpedo types. In the past, he's had a hard time against my B'rel, because the re-cloaking animation trumps sensor scan. He can still sensor scan me, but when the ship re-cloaks, he loses me for a few seconds before he can see me again (while I'm cloaked). This gives me a short window to change direction and might give me a chance to get away. If you're going to be in a B'rel and going up against a Sci ship, always remember to keep away at least 6-7km away from them, so you can avoid getting tractored or revealed.
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Really? For serious?
Most of all, pray that you managed to spike-damage the ship in half with the chance you get or else the sci would just subnuc + whatever tricks it has back at you into GG.
Very powerful stuff.
This is assuming the sci knows what he's doing of course. There has been times I managed to kill scis with the dreadnought cruiser decloak lance attack and the lance didn't crit...
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I have this same problem with a fleetmate who is sci captain and uses a vesta, he uses the adapted omega shield and told me his shield cap is something like 21k, not to mention the target subsystems, the cool sci buffs he uses, plus he runs the aux phaser cannons which are quite strong if your aux is high (which his is) then that purple bubble thing only vesta can use that keeps you at a distance, plus he too uses the runabouts and they are annoying as hell, i use a jem bug as well and have not figured out how to beat his setup yet as everything he does keeps me tractored or my power levels drop to 0 or flux constantly, i think those runabouts use chroniton weps plus have tractors themselves, then he uses tractors as well as graviton pulse console, and hes using viral 3 i believe and can get it to last quite long,,,ive used eng batts, evasive,,and APO but its never enough to get out of all the slow downs and holds.
Thats alot of cheese..... No wonder he is winning.
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
agreed,,,i carry eng team 1 x 2
hes stomping me in 2 on 2 as well,,,cause him and his teamate only focus on me and just keep me held still with low power as he knows i have the highest DPS in my fleet and it scares him lol.
When playing teams i can manage to kill him a couuple times but as one poster said its because so much is going on he cant constantly focus on me and i can do an escorts job and sneak in there and DPS him to death.
I've fought many Science ships who attempted to use Feedback Pulse on me, and while it did do a good amount of damage, I wasn't panicking because of how low the hull damage was. Now, if it was a Tactical officer in a Science ship with Feedback Pulse 3, I'd be worried (if not dead before I knew it).
My fleet mate also tried to boost his Feedback Pulse 3 damage as much as possible, and decided that it really wasn't all that significant.
Now, if it was as powerful as the Hive Onslaught versions, I'd be more cautious....
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
any more, im more concerned about VM then a nuk. at least i can try to GTFO if i get nuked, im going nowhere fast when vm'ed