The game itself hardly bothers me anymore. What really bothers me is Cryptic's lack of a QA department, the main reason I quit spending money on STO. But for everything that still works, I still get a kick out of playing.
They always do this. I was on another MMO. Every time a new event opens up. You get the mad rush to do it. Then you get the forums flooded with angry/mad people. I learned this from experience. So while they all clog up the game trying to be the 1st. I will wait it out. And do the mission with ease. As the rest have done it and went on their business. There is like almost 3 weeks to do the mission and get your prize.
Reminds me of a new ride at a Theme Park. Many will wait hours and hours to get on that ride. While others are nearly empty. Enjoy the wait while I hit the older rides. Then one day, I will be able to walk right on the ride as the newness worn off.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
I look at it just the oppositel. Why post in the forums if you have something nice to say.....U say plenty when u subscribe that you are tolerant of their policies.
I look to the forums not for ego stroking and pats on the back for devs. I look here for tech issues and answers. I look for creative ideas.
If you are pissed with the game quit...i you like th egame pay the sub...leave that out of the forums......
It always feels like the "way to go" topics are only intended to try and counter the negativity.
The generic OP for any feel good topic is usually something like this
People are so negative to the devs I feel I need to counter it...blah blah.....I would prefer if both would use their ultimate power subscribe or do not.....more pwerful then any forum post.
So I wish both would keep their opinions to themselves..but we all know this wont happen:P
Today we fight the GAULS......monstrous and HAIRY beyond reason.
Every time I watch the forum I see people post comments over how frustrated they are and how much they hate what the game has become. Disagreeing with updates, complaining about glitches, about not enough content in the game.
For these players this post. Why these overly negative comments? Can?t you give feedback about something you disagree without breaking apart the game?
Can?t you be satisfied with you have in the game?
Can?t you give more constructive criticism?
Give ideas that aren?t vague but better worked out?
If you have an idea work it out and maybe the cryptic will make it available in the game.
Everyone loves to criticize Mr. Straw Man, but I have never even seen him post on the forums.
Your parents seem very wise, but didn't they ever tell you you shouldn't use a fallacy to support your position?
Every time I watch the forum I see people post comments over how frustrated they are and how much they hate what the game has become. Disagreeing with updates, complaining about glitches, about not enough content in the game.
For these players this post. Why these overly negative comments? Can?t you give feedback about something you disagree without breaking apart the game?
Can?t you be satisfied with you have in the game?
Can?t you give more constructive criticism?
Give ideas that aren?t vague but better worked out?
If you have an idea work it out and maybe the cryptic will make it available in the game.
I for one love this game. I surely disagree about some things or rather see things differently or want some stuff in the game. But I am glad with the things we have in the game.
I for one I?m much like the borg and adapt to situations and play in different way?s. Is something bugged I post it to cryptic and avoid it as long it isn?t fixed. But I won?t spam the forum with destructive comments about it!
My parents give some good advice I want to share with you.
Be glad what you have.
Everything more is a gift.
Getting frustrated makes not only makes your day miserable, but you make other players miserable and the workers at cryptic who add stuff and make stuff better in the game each day to make YOU happy and give you as pleasant possible game experience.
For people at cryptic, you?re doing a fine job. Do your best adding new stuff and maybe look in to some of the ideas in the forum, there are some good ones. Make the game today better and bigger than it was yesterday.
Live long and prosper.
1. Star Trek fans are the original Unpleasable Fanbase. They hate everything until they no longer can.
2. Gamers are another Unpleasable Fanbase. They hate everything until Penny Arcade tells them not to.
3. This is a Star Trek video game. I don't need to connect the dots on this one, I think.
Anything else I'd have to say about the forums will run smack into the "Community Rules" and die, but you can easily find worse elsewhere.
Connection Issues, Crash Issues, Broken/Buggy Gameplay Issues and General Lack of Quality Control are all VERY good reasons to be pissed at PWE and STO. I feel foolish having spent money on such a bad product.
Aside from quality problems, the fact is this game is a Vanilla MMO built to the lowest common denominator. There is no real skill involved, it's all based on how well you can build your stats. They say it is free to play, but unless you have the time to grind millions of dilithium (or buy it with Zen), the best you can do is dabble. The game's economics are screwy to say the least. There is no sense of adventure to it, no elaborate stories, no plot twists or choices, no "good" or "bad" consequences, no multiple endings or any ending really, no faction missions or story arcs, no feeling of accomplishment when you complete an objective. Whooptie freakin' doo, I got an Ambassador class starship after listening to Denise Crosby mince some lines. Amazingly, this passes for "content", and we lap it all up with a TRIBBLE eating grin. Well, not me personally. Baaaa.
They slapped a Comm Badge on this farce and called it Star Trek because all the companies involved know Star Trek fans are loyal to a fault and will buy anything related to the franchise, even if the product is TRIBBLE. I applaud fans for expressing their ire to PWE over this slight. If you order Filet Mignon and get Salisbury Steak, I bet you'd be tempted to bitchslap the chef. I wanted an enjoyable Star Trek game and got a badly written generic MMO, so yes I'm angry.
Yes, Star Trek fans are hard to please. Gene Roddenberry knew this, and did a good job of making Star Trek special. PWE obviously didn't get that memo. I saw a thread not long ago asking if people would still play STO if it wasn't affiliated with Star Trek. Most of what I read was unsurprising. My answer, like many others, was (and still is) no.
With so many sheep blindly playing this game and lining PWE's pockets, we NEED the disgruntled fans to keep shouting as loud as possible. If you are happy with STO, good for you. However, both as a Gamer and as a Star Trek Fan, I have higher standards.
Connection Issues, Crash Issues, Broken/Buggy Gameplay Issues and General Lack of Quality Control are all VERY good reasons to be pissed at PWE and STO. I feel foolish having spent money on such a bad product.
exactly my thoughts. i started this game when it went f2p a year ago, and it was very exciting to play. I dont have a subscription nor will i ever choose to, but i do have alot of money invested into the game (a little over 6k). after yesterdays patch, i will be taking a break from sto for a while to try out some new games coming out soon.
If you don't like unending complaints and hot tears, don't read the PvP subforums. Anything there will be "OP" sooner or later anyway, with walls of text stating "i don't want to do pvp if it's not just dual heavy cannons damage". It's quite entertaining though if you have some sense of humor.
What makes me somewhat frustrated is when the devs listen to these guys and randomly nerf stuff you just bought. You can't even play the game and think that your build is ok for some time because someone will complain about it and your fun will vanish with the next patch.
That's why i don't like this, and i'm very cautious when i have something to say about the balance of the game, but most people won't care at all just because they want their build to be the best and will complain until everything but theirs gets nerfed.
But that said, if this game is that bad, why are you still here? When it became clear what was going to happen with TOR I left, rather then stay there and be miserable.
Why am I still here ?
Because I'm not a game hopper like you , and even if I was , can you show me whee the other Star Trek MMO is plz ?
Every time I watch the forum I see people post comments over how frustrated they are and how much they hate what the game has become. Disagreeing with updates, complaining about glitches, about not enough content in the game.
For these players this post. Why these overly negative comments? Can?t you give feedback about something you disagree without breaking apart the game?
Can?t you be satisfied with you have in the game?
Can?t you give more constructive criticism?
Give ideas that aren?t vague but better worked out?
If you have an idea work it out and maybe the cryptic will make it available in the game.
I for one love this game. I surely disagree about some things or rather see things differently or want some stuff in the game. But I am glad with the things we have in the game.
I for one I?m much like the borg and adapt to situations and play in different way?s. Is something bugged I post it to cryptic and avoid it as long it isn?t fixed. But I won?t spam the forum with destructive comments about it!
My parents give some good advice I want to share with you.
Be glad what you have.
Everything more is a gift.
Getting frustrated makes not only makes your day miserable, but you make other players miserable and the workers at cryptic who add stuff and make stuff better in the game each day to make YOU happy and give you as pleasant possible game experience.
For people at cryptic, you?re doing a fine job. Do your best adding new stuff and maybe look in to some of the ideas in the forum, there are some good ones. Make the game today better and bigger than it was yesterday.
Live long and prosper.
A fine job would be to do a Space Revamp 3.0 and get rid of this craptastic non-trek-like arcade combat system and return it to pre-F2p trek-feel combat and skill sets.
Complaining about complainers is just as pointless as complaining about Cryptic on their own forums.
But I will answer two oft-asked questions that crop up in these threads:
1- Why keep playing? It's free. This game costs nothing to keep playing. So a lot of people who dislike the things that keep getting added to the game, be they bugs, crashes, or an even more screwed up timesink-ey economy, will keep playing the free part of the game.
2- Why complain? Because it too is free.
In any event, I just came back for the 3rd Anniversary event and the free ships. So no complaints from me. Still, I will say this to the OP: In the three years I've been around this game I've seen even the staunchest "defenders" of Cryptic eventually get worn out by their BS and start to complain about the boneheaded decisions the company has made.
So my advice to you is ... be careful. Someday down the road, there will be something in a patch done by Cryptic to this game that will annoy even you. And at that time you'll have the urge to complain about it. Maybe even on these very forums.
most of the people making complaints (myself included) are long time players who started off with contructive critisizm, but have gotten to the point that its the same old story over and over again.. deadlines not met.. some of the worst connectivity in recent mmo history, and a list of bugs that still span back to the first patches..
Exactly.
There were bugs that we reported in beta that hung around into the second year, some things that are still glitchy - and still other things that just make you scratch your head in wonder at how it could be so wrong.
I've often wondered whether or not - despite their claims - the crew at Cryptic ever watched any iteration of Star Trek at all because some things have been so wildly wrong. (The most recent example being the "Yesterday's Enterprise" uniform which should have been wildly simple - but they couldn't even get that right.)
Now, take this - and all the stuff thrown into the C-Store before the game went F2P - and the bugs, glitches, downtime and general lack of creativity that this game has seen in the past 3 years and mix it up with the biggest science fiction franchise in the world that's known for having a rabid fan base (and before anyone starts, Star Wars is space fantasy, not science fiction), and you're going to have an extremely volatile forum.
And then you get someone who decides to tell long-time fans of the show the game is based on that they "just don't get it" because they don't like the game, and, well... It gets ugly.
Despite what it says to the left, I've been a STO forum member since the day the game was announced by Jack Emmert at the Las Vegas Star Trek convention four years ago (they just reset things every time they do forum "maintenance" or the company changes hands), so yeah. I've seen the forums at their worst and at their best - and frankly with the game at its best I can still see why people complain.
If you think the forums are bad now, you should've been around for "Atarigate" or the "Get it" days. LOL
If you think the forums are bad now, you should've been around for "Atarigate" or the "Get it" days. LOL
Unlike some Cryptic employees from back in those days, I currently have a Star Trek cup. In my kitchen. Right now. I even fill it with coffee in the mornings. Sometimes tea.
i just wish they would stop the cryptic launcher from crashing,,,,,,got to reboot the computer every time to get back in the game,,,,,,pain in the bum when you are playing elite,,,,,but the sound still works....?????
For starters, last time I checked, its 400. :P But, your argument is, that people aren't entitled to these things. Well, last I checked, as a lifer, I dropped in a fair bit of money right from the start, and from then, I've carried on putting money into the game. That's not a complaint, its a fact. But, if I've put money into something, I expect something in return, and that, I feel, is something that I'm entitled to.
At the end of the day, a lot of players [lifers/ subscribers/ members/ whatever] have invested a lot of time, money and passion into this game and if they're not allowed to get angry about something, then I don't know who is. There's a lot of people who enjoy this game, there's a lot who love this game, and I'm one of them. I've been here for a long, long time and I have to say I'm one of the ones who have made angry statements. Not because I hate the game, the studio or the developers, but because I've disagreed with particular directions, and strongly at that. However, it is only because I've enjoyed this game and I want it to succeed and I want it to develop, progress and keep on going that I feel this way.
There are still a lot of improvements to make, but, the sto team are getting bigger and the winter event as well as the latest anniversary has shown to me they can deliver, but for me it seems part of that progression requires the passionate community that has stuck by the game from the start and continues to grow. (Even if we get a little overzealous sometimes :P)
Every time I watch the forum I see people post comments over how frustrated they are and how much they hate what the game has become. Disagreeing with updates, complaining about glitches, about not enough content in the game.
For these players this post. Why these overly negative comments? Can?t you give feedback about something you disagree without breaking apart the game?
Can?t you be satisfied with you have in the game?
Can?t you give more constructive criticism?
Give ideas that aren?t vague but better worked out?
If you have an idea work it out and maybe the cryptic will make it available in the game.
I for one love this game. I surely disagree about some things or rather see things differently or want some stuff in the game. But I am glad with the things we have in the game.
I for one I?m much like the borg and adapt to situations and play in different way?s. Is something bugged I post it to cryptic and avoid it as long it isn?t fixed. But I won?t spam the forum with destructive comments about it!
My parents give some good advice I want to share with you.
Be glad what you have.
Everything more is a gift.
Getting frustrated makes not only makes your day miserable, but you make other players miserable and the workers at cryptic who add stuff and make stuff better in the game each day to make YOU happy and give you as pleasant possible game experience.
For people at cryptic, you?re doing a fine job. Do your best adding new stuff and maybe look in to some of the ideas in the forum, there are some good ones. Make the game today better and bigger than it was yesterday.
Live long and prosper.
I have to agree with this. People complain about stuff in this game so much and don't offer any new ideas but "make it better:. I'm not talking about all anger posts. Some people post and issue and then offer ideas to fix it. Thats they way everyone should do it. But there's too many people NOT doing that.
I understand there's always something people want and something people want fixed, but i mean at least offer up your own idea of how to fix it. We don't know what all the challenges the devs face each day. Some of the stuff you guys may be asking may not be possible. Honestly if there not going to fix it the first or 20th time their probably not going to fix it anytime soon, so stop posting the same problems constantly.
Like the OP said, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, not empty rants.
Honestly if i was a DEV i would be quitting, because most of the things they do seem to not satisfy many people. We ask for something, they give it to us, but we complain about that.
...the biggest science fiction franchise in the world that's known for having a rabid fan base...
I quit my local Trek fan club some time around Picard's tiny beach shorts because everyone was acting like a psychopath over every new thing the show did.
Hard truth: Never fall in love with the stripper. It makes you stupid.
There were bugs that we reported in beta that hung around into the second year, some things that are still glitchy - and still other things that just make you scratch your head in wonder at how it could be so wrong.
In many games the bitter veterans population won't be the one the devs listen to. Games are never built for them, or around their wishes. It's not the target audience. Yes, there are bugs; any other software will have bugs anyway. Yes, there are unadressed requests, but see first point too.
I'd say that it's fortunate not to see the devs saying yes to every single request. Most of them are ridiculous, would take time for nothing, would have no use in game, or would break the game balance so badly that it wouldn't be playable anymore. Today such requests are "buff beams/tanks now or i quit" threads, it used to be "buff scis or i quit" (i know how it feels my main is a sci), tomorrow i guess it'll be "nerf TRIBBLE devs because when i need to take a TRIBBLE i can't focus on playing".
There are some good ideas out there, but most of them are plainly utterly selfish and would serve no one but a minority of players. And vets are professionals for such requests. Being some sort of vet myself, i often ask for REALLY tougher pve instances but i know it's not going to happen, and i understand why. Because if my request was addressed, it would make scream 90% of the servers.
Honestly if i was a DEV i would be quitting, because most of the things they do seem to not satisfy many people. We ask for something, they give it to us, but we complain about that.
I will never understand the forums.
I'll give some examples.
Folks asked for the KDF faction to be complete. The Development team gave the game ... 8 missions, and left the faction incomplete.
Folks asked for a more non-combat oriented feel to being in the Federation since TNG really set that whole diplomatic feel into the Trek tapestry. The Development team gave the game ... a diplomacy grind that mainly consisted of scanning columns and plants thousands of times.
Folks asked for the ability to assign your first officer. The Development team gave the game ... the DOFF system which plays out like Pokemon.
Folks asked for ground combat to get revamped, and for the overpowered enemies who fired dual pistols too hard to be fixed. The Development team gave the game ... First Person Shooter mode.
Folks asked for the in-game economy to be tweaked and fixed because mark grinding was slow and tedious and credits had little to no value and Gold Pressed Latinum bought nothing really all that useful. The development team gave the game ... Dilithium Exchange.
Folks asked for crafting to be made logical, useful and worth doing. Three times now the Development team has failed to do that.
Folks asked for more PVP content. The Development team gave the game ... Shanty Town. And the PVP queues which when they debuted were broken and thus made PVP unplayable for a few days.
Constructive criticism gets just as much done as empty rants. So you know, it doesn't matter what the folks post. Cryptic will do what it does, and the constructive criticism will be largely as ignored as the rants.
One last tidbit ... before ripping into the players who are angry, ask yourself this ... were the STFs Into the Hive or Children of Khan ever finished? The person who was working on them the first time they were employed by Cryptic didn't. But was once again employed by Cryptic. Did they get finished yet? Or was that employee busy trolling players on the forums with an incorrect definition of content while not actually creating the content that was their job to create?
Cut the angry players some slack is all I'm saying. It's been a long three year journey for some of them and quite a few of them paid good money for life time subs or just monthly subs while also buying things in the cash shop, only to see their feedback ignored and even get trolled by a few cryptic employees here and there.
One last tidbit ... before ripping into the players who are angry, ask yourself this ... were the STFs Into the Hive or Children of Khan ever finished? The person who was working on them the first time they were employed by Cryptic didn't. But was once again employed by Cryptic. Did they get finished yet? Or was that employee busy trolling players on the forums with an incorrect definition of content while not actually creating the content that was their job to create?
Dude, have you been in game recently at all, Into the Hive went live with Season 7.
The same indifference or lack of caring should then be applied to angry posters. Which is my point. Let angry posters be angry posters. It won't get things changed.
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well said mister vulcan
+1
Reminds me of a new ride at a Theme Park. Many will wait hours and hours to get on that ride. While others are nearly empty. Enjoy the wait while I hit the older rides. Then one day, I will be able to walk right on the ride as the newness worn off.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
I look to the forums not for ego stroking and pats on the back for devs. I look here for tech issues and answers. I look for creative ideas.
If you are pissed with the game quit...i you like th egame pay the sub...leave that out of the forums......
It always feels like the "way to go" topics are only intended to try and counter the negativity.
The generic OP for any feel good topic is usually something like this
People are so negative to the devs I feel I need to counter it...blah blah.....I would prefer if both would use their ultimate power subscribe or do not.....more pwerful then any forum post.
So I wish both would keep their opinions to themselves..but we all know this wont happen:P
Your parents seem very wise, but didn't they ever tell you you shouldn't use a fallacy to support your position?
1. Star Trek fans are the original Unpleasable Fanbase. They hate everything until they no longer can.
2. Gamers are another Unpleasable Fanbase. They hate everything until Penny Arcade tells them not to.
3. This is a Star Trek video game. I don't need to connect the dots on this one, I think.
Anything else I'd have to say about the forums will run smack into the "Community Rules" and die, but you can easily find worse elsewhere.
Aside from quality problems, the fact is this game is a Vanilla MMO built to the lowest common denominator. There is no real skill involved, it's all based on how well you can build your stats. They say it is free to play, but unless you have the time to grind millions of dilithium (or buy it with Zen), the best you can do is dabble. The game's economics are screwy to say the least. There is no sense of adventure to it, no elaborate stories, no plot twists or choices, no "good" or "bad" consequences, no multiple endings or any ending really, no faction missions or story arcs, no feeling of accomplishment when you complete an objective. Whooptie freakin' doo, I got an Ambassador class starship after listening to Denise Crosby mince some lines. Amazingly, this passes for "content", and we lap it all up with a TRIBBLE eating grin. Well, not me personally. Baaaa.
They slapped a Comm Badge on this farce and called it Star Trek because all the companies involved know Star Trek fans are loyal to a fault and will buy anything related to the franchise, even if the product is TRIBBLE. I applaud fans for expressing their ire to PWE over this slight. If you order Filet Mignon and get Salisbury Steak, I bet you'd be tempted to bitchslap the chef. I wanted an enjoyable Star Trek game and got a badly written generic MMO, so yes I'm angry.
Yes, Star Trek fans are hard to please. Gene Roddenberry knew this, and did a good job of making Star Trek special. PWE obviously didn't get that memo. I saw a thread not long ago asking if people would still play STO if it wasn't affiliated with Star Trek. Most of what I read was unsurprising. My answer, like many others, was (and still is) no.
With so many sheep blindly playing this game and lining PWE's pockets, we NEED the disgruntled fans to keep shouting as loud as possible. If you are happy with STO, good for you. However, both as a Gamer and as a Star Trek Fan, I have higher standards.
What makes me somewhat frustrated is when the devs listen to these guys and randomly nerf stuff you just bought. You can't even play the game and think that your build is ok for some time because someone will complain about it and your fun will vanish with the next patch.
That's why i don't like this, and i'm very cautious when i have something to say about the balance of the game, but most people won't care at all just because they want their build to be the best and will complain until everything but theirs gets nerfed.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Why am I still here ?
Because I'm not a game hopper like you , and even if I was , can you show me whee the other Star Trek MMO is plz ?
A fine job would be to do a Space Revamp 3.0 and get rid of this craptastic non-trek-like arcade combat system and return it to pre-F2p trek-feel combat and skill sets.
But I will answer two oft-asked questions that crop up in these threads:
1- Why keep playing? It's free. This game costs nothing to keep playing. So a lot of people who dislike the things that keep getting added to the game, be they bugs, crashes, or an even more screwed up timesink-ey economy, will keep playing the free part of the game.
2- Why complain? Because it too is free.
In any event, I just came back for the 3rd Anniversary event and the free ships. So no complaints from me. Still, I will say this to the OP: In the three years I've been around this game I've seen even the staunchest "defenders" of Cryptic eventually get worn out by their BS and start to complain about the boneheaded decisions the company has made.
So my advice to you is ... be careful. Someday down the road, there will be something in a patch done by Cryptic to this game that will annoy even you. And at that time you'll have the urge to complain about it. Maybe even on these very forums.
Exactly.
There were bugs that we reported in beta that hung around into the second year, some things that are still glitchy - and still other things that just make you scratch your head in wonder at how it could be so wrong.
I've often wondered whether or not - despite their claims - the crew at Cryptic ever watched any iteration of Star Trek at all because some things have been so wildly wrong. (The most recent example being the "Yesterday's Enterprise" uniform which should have been wildly simple - but they couldn't even get that right.)
Now, take this - and all the stuff thrown into the C-Store before the game went F2P - and the bugs, glitches, downtime and general lack of creativity that this game has seen in the past 3 years and mix it up with the biggest science fiction franchise in the world that's known for having a rabid fan base (and before anyone starts, Star Wars is space fantasy, not science fiction), and you're going to have an extremely volatile forum.
And then you get someone who decides to tell long-time fans of the show the game is based on that they "just don't get it" because they don't like the game, and, well... It gets ugly.
Despite what it says to the left, I've been a STO forum member since the day the game was announced by Jack Emmert at the Las Vegas Star Trek convention four years ago (they just reset things every time they do forum "maintenance" or the company changes hands), so yeah. I've seen the forums at their worst and at their best - and frankly with the game at its best I can still see why people complain.
If you think the forums are bad now, you should've been around for "Atarigate" or the "Get it" days. LOL
Unlike some Cryptic employees from back in those days, I currently have a Star Trek cup. In my kitchen. Right now. I even fill it with coffee in the mornings. Sometimes tea.
For starters, last time I checked, its 400. :P But, your argument is, that people aren't entitled to these things. Well, last I checked, as a lifer, I dropped in a fair bit of money right from the start, and from then, I've carried on putting money into the game. That's not a complaint, its a fact. But, if I've put money into something, I expect something in return, and that, I feel, is something that I'm entitled to.
At the end of the day, a lot of players [lifers/ subscribers/ members/ whatever] have invested a lot of time, money and passion into this game and if they're not allowed to get angry about something, then I don't know who is. There's a lot of people who enjoy this game, there's a lot who love this game, and I'm one of them. I've been here for a long, long time and I have to say I'm one of the ones who have made angry statements. Not because I hate the game, the studio or the developers, but because I've disagreed with particular directions, and strongly at that. However, it is only because I've enjoyed this game and I want it to succeed and I want it to develop, progress and keep on going that I feel this way.
There are still a lot of improvements to make, but, the sto team are getting bigger and the winter event as well as the latest anniversary has shown to me they can deliver, but for me it seems part of that progression requires the passionate community that has stuck by the game from the start and continues to grow. (Even if we get a little overzealous sometimes :P)
I have to agree with this. People complain about stuff in this game so much and don't offer any new ideas but "make it better:. I'm not talking about all anger posts. Some people post and issue and then offer ideas to fix it. Thats they way everyone should do it. But there's too many people NOT doing that.
I understand there's always something people want and something people want fixed, but i mean at least offer up your own idea of how to fix it. We don't know what all the challenges the devs face each day. Some of the stuff you guys may be asking may not be possible. Honestly if there not going to fix it the first or 20th time their probably not going to fix it anytime soon, so stop posting the same problems constantly.
Like the OP said, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, not empty rants.
Honestly if i was a DEV i would be quitting, because most of the things they do seem to not satisfy many people. We ask for something, they give it to us, but we complain about that.
I will never understand the forums.
I quit my local Trek fan club some time around Picard's tiny beach shorts because everyone was acting like a psychopath over every new thing the show did.
Hard truth: Never fall in love with the stripper. It makes you stupid.
In many games the bitter veterans population won't be the one the devs listen to. Games are never built for them, or around their wishes. It's not the target audience. Yes, there are bugs; any other software will have bugs anyway. Yes, there are unadressed requests, but see first point too.
I'd say that it's fortunate not to see the devs saying yes to every single request. Most of them are ridiculous, would take time for nothing, would have no use in game, or would break the game balance so badly that it wouldn't be playable anymore. Today such requests are "buff beams/tanks now or i quit" threads, it used to be "buff scis or i quit" (i know how it feels my main is a sci), tomorrow i guess it'll be "nerf TRIBBLE devs because when i need to take a TRIBBLE i can't focus on playing".
There are some good ideas out there, but most of them are plainly utterly selfish and would serve no one but a minority of players. And vets are professionals for such requests. Being some sort of vet myself, i often ask for REALLY tougher pve instances but i know it's not going to happen, and i understand why. Because if my request was addressed, it would make scream 90% of the servers.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
I'll give some examples.
Folks asked for the KDF faction to be complete. The Development team gave the game ... 8 missions, and left the faction incomplete.
Folks asked for a more non-combat oriented feel to being in the Federation since TNG really set that whole diplomatic feel into the Trek tapestry. The Development team gave the game ... a diplomacy grind that mainly consisted of scanning columns and plants thousands of times.
Folks asked for the ability to assign your first officer. The Development team gave the game ... the DOFF system which plays out like Pokemon.
Folks asked for ground combat to get revamped, and for the overpowered enemies who fired dual pistols too hard to be fixed. The Development team gave the game ... First Person Shooter mode.
Folks asked for the in-game economy to be tweaked and fixed because mark grinding was slow and tedious and credits had little to no value and Gold Pressed Latinum bought nothing really all that useful. The development team gave the game ... Dilithium Exchange.
Folks asked for crafting to be made logical, useful and worth doing. Three times now the Development team has failed to do that.
Folks asked for more PVP content. The Development team gave the game ... Shanty Town. And the PVP queues which when they debuted were broken and thus made PVP unplayable for a few days.
Constructive criticism gets just as much done as empty rants. So you know, it doesn't matter what the folks post. Cryptic will do what it does, and the constructive criticism will be largely as ignored as the rants.
Cut the angry players some slack is all I'm saying. It's been a long three year journey for some of them and quite a few of them paid good money for life time subs or just monthly subs while also buying things in the cash shop, only to see their feedback ignored and even get trolled by a few cryptic employees here and there.
It's 500, it's always been $5 worth of points so when it changed from C-Points (80:$1) to Zen (100:$1) the Stipend went up.
Dude, have you been in game recently at all, Into the Hive went live with Season 7.
I'm pretty sure few people care.