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twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Ten Forward
http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/jj-abrams-set-direct-next-star-wars-film-exclusive-74596

I think we can agree that he'd be a better fit for Star Wars.
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  • betawatcherbetawatcher Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »

    The majority of critics and viewers thought he fit just right for Star Trek:

    http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-trek

    It will be interesting to see whether the Star Wars movie he directs gets a higher score than ST09 or Into Darkness.
  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited January 2013
    I can dig it. #TeamJJ
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I remember reading a week or two ago that he turned that offer down so he could work on Star Trek. I guess he changed his mind. :cool:
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited January 2013
    I remember reading a week or two ago that he turned that offer down so he could work on Star Trek. I guess he changed his mind. :cool:

    Or the Disney lawyers threatened to Force-choke him if he revealed it before they were ready. :D
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Star Wars trek has just got interesting
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  • hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Shoot I was hoping Ron Howard would take the job.
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The majority of critics and viewers thought he fit just right for Star Trek

    I enjoyed the movie for what it was. But it couldn't even pull off convincing technobabble since it was using "science" that even a fifth grader could tell you was nonsense.

    "Magic" fits Star Wars better.
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  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I was never a big Star Trek fan growing up, so for me, working on Star Trek didn?t have any of that, you know, almost fatal sacrilege
    Practically flipping Star Trek the bird there.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »
    I enjoyed the movie for what it was. But it couldn't even pull off convincing technobabble since it was using "science" that even a fifth grader could tell you was nonsense.

    "Magic" fits Star Wars better.

    To be fair, I think he pulls together decent writers for his sci-fi work but countermands them a bit too much.

    Orci and Kurtzman are very capable, IMHO. But J.J. basically cut every explanation and mandated most of the sillier aspects. And they had a similar experience with Bay on Transformers.

    I'd actually really like to see Orci and Kurtzman stay onboard for Trek but get paired with a thinking man's director, somebody who is highly detail oriented in some way.

    Top picks: Aronofsky, Fincher, Nolan, Richard Kelly, Ronald D. Moore, Jane Espensen.

    Partner any of these guys with Orci/Kurtzman. I'd also suggest soliciting Dorothy Fontana or David Gerrold for consultant roles.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I realize it would be just as heretical as J.J. for some people, BTW, but I'd be REALLY intrigued by a Richard Kelly Star Trek.

    He has a habit of using real science fairly accurately in places but making it incomprehensibly woven it with weird fantasy elements. I think that could be interesting for Trek because he could really sell the future aspect by making everyone feel like they didn't understand a lick of what they just saw and they weren't supposed to either.

    He did Donnie Darko, Southland Tales, The Box. I don't think his prior work is perfect as credentials go but I kinda like the idea of a director doing a type of film he hasn't done before. He's good at working with actors and a range of camera techniques, including explosions and SFX. I think the real trick is pairing him with commercial writers who ground him, kinda like how Mark Frost grounded David Lynch on Twin Peaks.

    (It's actually a pretty common pairing in Hollywood. You get an almost borderline schizophrenic artist who makes incomprehensibly dense high art and someone who thinks like a merchandising/advertising exec and force them to collaborate and if they don't kill eachother, the result is almost always great. And REALLY great writers generally can play both roles, reining themselves in.)

    I'll also add, this pairing is pretty much what gave us Ghostbusters. Dan Aykroyd has pronounced, I believe diagnosed Asperger's (he identifies publicly as having it) and is very fixated on time travel, UFOs, and the paranormal. And his screenplays are unfilmable, densely packed. I seem to recall that his concept for Ghostbusters had them on a space station and revealed that ghosts were artifacts of time travel and the rate of the universe's expansion creating spatial folds or something like that. And the humor was VERY highbrow. Like, you'd need a Ph.D to get most of it. But pair him up with Harold Ramis and you wind up with Ghostbusters, which is more commercial than anything Aykroyd could do on his own but still, well... I think it stands out as being tremendously more cerebral than Ramis' work on Meatballs or Caddyshack. And Ramis paired with pretty clever writers for Analyze This and Groundhog's Day.

    Aykroyd brings the genius, Ramis made it filmable.
  • proteus22proteus22 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    how about jerry brukymer taking over you know the who did armeggedon and csi shows he knows how to handle a group cast well.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Since we're clearly going completely bat@#$% crazy, let's just give it to David Lynch.
  • rayusrayus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Hmm, Lightsaber lense flare...

    Gives me a headache just thinking about it. :cool:
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Since we're clearly going completely bat@#$% crazy, let's just give it to David Lynch.

    The man did Dune.

    And, frankly, if he'd stayed on good terms with his stable of actors and this was 1990...

    Well, a Captain Kyle MacLachlan would just be AWESOME. Laura Dern as the Doctor.

    I doubt you could get Lynch to do Trek but I actually think he'd be surprisingly good at it if he could rein in his weirder impulses. And he used to be pretty good at doing this strategically. I love his newer stuff too but I think David Lynch in the 80s or 90s probably could have done Star Trek and his stable of actors would have been perfect for it.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I remember reading a week or two ago that he turned that offer down so he could work on Star Trek. I guess he changed his mind. :cool:

    Saw the same news, so guess they must've gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. :cool:

    Though some question is if there will be a Star Trek 3?
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Though some question is if there will be a Star Trek 3?

    The Search for More Money?

    :D
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
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  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Oh JJ Wars, I wonder if the openeing crawl will start like this:

    Space... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Millenium Falcon. Her ongoing mission: to to smuggle contraband from strange worlds, to seek out new opportunities, to boldly out run imperial pursuit like no man has before... or shoot first....

    And then show Stormtroopers in red plastic suits.:D
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  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    "long ago, in a frontier far far away"

    Would be interesting to see more realistic fighting styles.
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  • joshl7889joshl7889 Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Abrams dodged a bullet with Star Trek. He got majorly lucky that it was accepted by the community as well as it was. I dont think he will fare as well with Star Wars if he tries to pull the same stunt. He should stick to Star Trek, Michael Bay should stuck to Transformers, and they should leave Star Wars to James Cameron or Steven Spielberg. Thats just all there is to it. If Abrams screws with Star Wars like he did with Star Trek, he will most likely never work in hollywood again. And if he does, then people r stupid for letting him
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  • mkilczewskimkilczewski Member Posts: 284
    edited January 2013
    joshl7889 wrote: »
    Abrams dodged a bullet with Star Trek. He got majorly lucky that it was accepted by the community as well as it was. I dont think he will fare as well with Star Wars if he tries to pull the same stunt. He should stick to Star Trek, Michael Bay should stuck to Transformers, and they should leave Star Wars to James Cameron or Steven Spielberg. Thats just all there is to it. If Abrams screws with Star Wars like he did with Star Trek, he will most likely never work in hollywood again. And if he does, then people r stupid for letting him

    Yeah, Cameron doing Star Wars LoL... (Vader, standing on the prow of the Executor, arms outstretched, shouting, "I'm the king of the Universe" as the camera pulls back, revealing the Executor in all it's immensity)
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You bet me to the formn, was just about to post lol. Interesting, cant wait to see this! :D
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The man did Dune.

    Yeah...

    That's not really one to put in the "Pro" column.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OH GOD NOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    JJ's gonna hack the SW continuity to pieces like ST.

    They shoulda let Ben Affleck direct it !

    BAD DISNEY ! BAD !!!
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  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Saw the same news, so guess they must've gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. :cool:

    Disney has altered the deal. Pray they don't alter it any further.
  • lancemeszaroslancemeszaros Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    joshl7889 wrote: »
    Abrams dodged a bullet with Star Trek. He got majorly lucky that it was accepted by the community as well as it was. I dont think he will fare as well with Star Wars if he tries to pull the same stunt. He should stick to Star Trek, Michael Bay should stuck to Transformers, and they should leave Star Wars to James Cameron or Steven Spielberg. Thats just all there is to it. If Abrams screws with Star Wars like he did with Star Trek, he will most likely never work in hollywood again. And if he does, then people r stupid for letting him

    I'm sure that taking an aging, decrepit franchise and giving it a new mainstream appeal is causing massive amounts of anger within Hollywood. Disney is surely shaking in their boots in fear that Abrams might do the same with Star Wars.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Meh. Let him mess with someone else's franchise for a while.
  • evendzharevendzhar Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Yeah, Cameron doing Star Wars LoL... (Vader, standind on the prow of the executor shouting "I'm the king of the Universe" as the camera pulls back, revealing the Executor in all it's immensity)
    Shouldn't that be Death Star 3? Change the iceberg to Millennium Falcon and the script is pretty much done.

    How about a Star Wars version of Avatar? The movie follows a man working for The Empire to JarJar Binks' home planet Naboo...
  • mkilczewskimkilczewski Member Posts: 284
    edited January 2013
    Disney has altered the deal. Pray they don't alter it any further.

    J.J.: Yeah, I'd love to do Star Wars 7, unfortunately, the money's not there.
    Vader: Perhaps you feel you are being treated unfairly?

    J.J.: Yeah, I'd love to do Star Wars 7, it's just that no one can do it better than George did.
    Vader: I find your lack of faith, disturbing.'

    Producer: J.J., you turned off your I-Phone, is everything alright?
    J.J.: Yeah, it's o.k., I'm alright.
    Vader: The Force is strong in this one.

    J.J.: Yeah, I'd love to do Star Wars 7, but I don't want to get all of Hollywood p/oed at me.
    Vader: The power of Hollywood is insignificant, next to the power of the Force.

    And... last, but not least...



    Vader: J.J. ABRAMS IS HERE, AND THE FORCE IS WITH HIM!
  • rickysmith1rickysmith1 Member Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I know it isn't Star Trek Online related but considering he directed the last two Star Trek films in a re-boot I figured I might as well share this information and see how the STO Community feels about this and their opinion on the Abram-Verse.

    Disney has just confirmed J.J. Abrams will direct Star Wars: Episode VII. Screenplay is written by Michael Arndt. Abrams, his longtime producing partner Bryan Burk, and Bad Robot are producing along with Kathleen Kennedy under the Disney/Lucasfilm banner.

    Comments on previous blogs;__
    [*]This will be classic! It?s nice to know JJ didn?t stop at Good Times and has decided to further his career. DYN-O-MITE!!!!__
    [*]Thank you, God. I love George Lucas but man, those last three Star Wars movies sucked... So did the last Star Trek?__
    [*]Agreed.. The last Star Trek did suck. Hopefully JJ will realize that shaking the camera does not make a good movie?__
    [*]Agreed. Doing Star Wars is a much better fit for JJ than Star Trek. His first Star Trek film in 2009 (and presumably the new one this year) was really a Star Wars film dressed up with ships and characters from Star Trek. I am *not* complaining about the changes that he made to the timeline (destruction of Vulcan, etc.); those things are to be expected in a re-boot of a franchise. I *am* complaining that he never captured the *feel* of Star Trek, the optimism and hope of humanity being better in the future, the plots that made you think, rather than being slugfests and car chases.

    I sincerely hope JJ will do well with the Star Wars film, and that he?ll be at the helm of the two that follow. Hopefully, that will keep him so occupied that he will drop Star Trek altogether.__
    [*]You?re crazy? Star Trek rocked.__
    [*]This is fine as long as he stays true to the universe and the mythos, unlike what he pulled with Star Trek, or at the very least leaves that lens flare BS at home when he makes the journey to A Galaxy Far Far Away.


    I did try to balance out the pro & con comments posted on previous sites but the Pro were less argumentive such as "It rocked" or "Your stupid, it was awsome"!

    What are your opinions? How will it effect Star Trek? What do you think of his previous work and/or the re-boot? And who is John Harrison?
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    Episode Four - Head Of A Needle Episode Five: The Duality of Men Episode Six - Redemption Earned
    Episode Seven - Shattered Universe Episode Eight - The Gepetto Condition Episode Nine - One Room, Two Officers
    Episode Ten - Beyond The Farthest Star Episode Eleven - It's OK, It Won't Hurt Episode Twelve - A Protracted Officer
    Episode Thirteen - Somewhen Episode Fourteen - The Boy Who Lived Episode Fifthteen - Empathy
  • origcaptainquackorigcaptainquack Member Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    i guess this means there is no hope for a tv series of star trek any time soon.
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