Oh man, I'm glad that kind of thing simply isn't possible in STO, at least not to that degree.
i kinda wish you could, would add some sort of consequences and rewards into the game rather than mindless grinding for fleet/STF gear. also the more recent heists are up into the Trillions of ISK rather than billions.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
If she was able to disband the fleet it means that the leadership gave her the ability to do so. Also by promoting her to a leadership position she has also gained ownership of the fleet in a degree so again she had a right to do it.
That's at least what I'd expect to hear as a response from the GM, I hope you won't hear that and you'll actually get this resolved but as I said the chances are slim to none, sorry...
i kinda wish you could, would add some sort of consequences and rewards into the game rather than mindless grinding for fleet/STF gear. also the more recent heists are up into the Trillions of ISK rather than billions.
That sort of thing works in a game where the "factions" are created by the players. I used to play Astro Empires and Space Trek. Guild vs Guild wars were normal there. Some of these wars were brutal and ended with one side effectively annihilated. They were rare. Wars between players were far more common.
How is that different from STO? AE and ST had little if any combat except against other players. In fact there is little else to do in those games besides build your power base and research better weapons. STO is more geared to PvE. Here guild wars would only fit as a form of ceremonial combat.
i kinda wish you could, would add some sort of consequences and rewards into the game rather than mindless grinding for fleet/STF gear. also the more recent heists are up into the Trillions of ISK rather than billions.
Why wish for it here...
Just go play EvE.
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
i kinda wish you could, would add some sort of consequences and rewards into the game rather than mindless grinding for fleet/STF gear. also the more recent heists are up into the Trillions of ISK rather than billions.
Me too. Even just Open-PvP in space would be great, this would at least result in a true outbreak of war between Federation and the Klingon Empire, not this weird on/off conflict in which we both work together ... and then fight against each other again?
Add shifting borders and fight for control of systems to it and it would be much like the Dominion War in DS9 instead of ... well, nothing?
Oh, and please don't tell me to join EvE if I want this. Judged from what I've heard about this game it seems like an overcomplicated second life/job to me. In contrast STO is easy accessable for a casual player and offers a high learning curve in short time (at least for some people, I'm looking at you rainbow cruisers!).
It sounds terrible, but Cryptic is most likely going to rightfully avoid getting involved in Fleet Politics.
I am unsure how the permissions can be set for one fleet leader to kick out other fleet leaders, but obviously that should not happen. I am not sure if that was your fault or Cryptic's.
Best of luck to you.
There is only one "Remove from fleet" -permission. I don't know if this would allow one to kick higher-ranked members, but same-ranked members can be kicked for sure.
Unfortunately the standard MMO guild hierarchy setup doesn't work well in a game where players are deeply invested into common property. It's shameful really that players could spend enormous fortunes building fleet holdings and then be unilaterally booted out with no recourse or compensation.
I must say, it really sucks and hurt those people it happens to.
I don't have any ideas around stopping this behaviour of TRIBBLE other players over.
I have given it some thought though. What to do if it happens to me.
So far i have earn't approx 3 mil fleetcredits. Needless to say ALOT of resources has being pumped into our fleet.
If I experience it, my ticker will definitly pump a little bit faster, and my girlfriend will give me a hard time because of me being grumpy.
What I DO know, is that I would never, ever, join or create a new fleet.
I'd rather collect all that dil and open lockboxes for it. Tons of them. It would be of a better use. And noone would (perhaps except Cryptic/PWE) TRIBBLE me over.
What can the fleet give me that lockboxes and C-store can't. Hardly anything compared to the vast amount of resources being spent on reachin T5. As Sto is going now. Well done, the arguement of pumping out lockboxes is alive again.
If we could be without a**-hats, the bases would grow and prosper.
Fairly recently, myself and a group of friends left one fleet and formed a new one. Since then, we have worked our butts off to get to tier 1 Embassy,almost tier 2 Starbase, with every possible special project completed (That's 2.6 MILLION Dilithium, on special projects alone - Probably around 3 million Dil in total).
Today, I find out that one of the people who joined us in transferring to this new fleet has emptied our fleet bank, kicked everyone from the fleet, and disbanded it. I will be reporting her later, as soon as I get in game, but that will have to be after work.
In the meantime, can anyone offer us any hope that this might be resolved in a positive way, or are we just doomed to have to start over... again?
First just wanted to say how much I know this sucks for you guys and I hate you all are going thru it. Do you know why the person did it? Not that it matters I guess since the damage is done. If there's anything I can do to help you guys out, short of getting back your fleet, myself along with the rest of my fleet is at your service... @stewie1701
When values in real money like this are involved the perpertrators should think long and hard before committing this kind of act, people have been killed for real for far less than this and it's not that hard to locate anyone in real life nowadays. Sounds like a very good reason NOT to play EVE.
What are you even saying?
That people shouldn't commit evil acts in a game because there's "good" people who are totally psychotic murderers?
What you may not know is that the world is full of nutters, you never know who they are and on the surface they may appear normal individuals, "he always kept himself to himself and seemed quite pleasant" is often quoted. These people are often incredibly resourceful and if they feel attacked in any way can seek vengeance. To them the boundaries between real life and a game may be non-existant or blurred. You just never know who it is you are TRIBBLE over, people have been murdered for game crimes like this.
So before you start insulting people you don't know, learn something about the real world sonny.
It is exactly relevant and your diametrically opposed view in the face of obvious supporting evidence just goes to prove how stubborn some people are when their arguments are shown to be null and void.
If you commit a crime in real life you may and probably will face consequences, if you do the same in a game that to some is the most important part of their life, then you may also face consequences dependant upon the nature of the person offended.
My original post was merely to point out that I would be wary of taking part in this kind of activitiy as you can never really be sure who you are attacking and the nature of that person.
This^, The point is that some people don't have the emotional maturity to play video games. Ironic isn't it? Of course this goes back to that hit someone posted a link about earlier. That: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/180867/features/murder-incorporated/ was a bunch of theives and assassins killing each other. That sort of thing is an integral part of EVE. not this game....
EDIT: Sorry, all. This is going no where good fast and I think the thread has exhausted itself. -Brandon
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I agree with that.
How is that different from STO? AE and ST had little if any combat except against other players. In fact there is little else to do in those games besides build your power base and research better weapons. STO is more geared to PvE. Here guild wars would only fit as a form of ceremonial combat.
My character Tsin'xing
Why wish for it here...
Just go play EvE.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Me too. Even just Open-PvP in space would be great, this would at least result in a true outbreak of war between Federation and the Klingon Empire, not this weird on/off conflict in which we both work together ... and then fight against each other again?
Add shifting borders and fight for control of systems to it and it would be much like the Dominion War in DS9 instead of ... well, nothing?
Oh, and please don't tell me to join EvE if I want this. Judged from what I've heard about this game it seems like an overcomplicated second life/job to me. In contrast STO is easy accessable for a casual player and offers a high learning curve in short time (at least for some people, I'm looking at you rainbow cruisers!).
Unfortunately the standard MMO guild hierarchy setup doesn't work well in a game where players are deeply invested into common property. It's shameful really that players could spend enormous fortunes building fleet holdings and then be unilaterally booted out with no recourse or compensation.
I don't have any ideas around stopping this behaviour of TRIBBLE other players over.
I have given it some thought though. What to do if it happens to me.
So far i have earn't approx 3 mil fleetcredits. Needless to say ALOT of resources has being pumped into our fleet.
If I experience it, my ticker will definitly pump a little bit faster, and my girlfriend will give me a hard time because of me being grumpy.
What I DO know, is that I would never, ever, join or create a new fleet.
I'd rather collect all that dil and open lockboxes for it. Tons of them. It would be of a better use. And noone would (perhaps except Cryptic/PWE) TRIBBLE me over.
What can the fleet give me that lockboxes and C-store can't. Hardly anything compared to the vast amount of resources being spent on reachin T5. As Sto is going now. Well done, the arguement of pumping out lockboxes is alive again.
If we could be without a**-hats, the bases would grow and prosper.
i do, its just i do like my star trek as well but i still yern for what it was ment to be.
First just wanted to say how much I know this sucks for you guys and I hate you all are going thru it. Do you know why the person did it? Not that it matters I guess since the damage is done. If there's anything I can do to help you guys out, short of getting back your fleet, myself along with the rest of my fleet is at your service... @stewie1701
What are you even saying?
That people shouldn't commit evil acts in a game because there's "good" people who are totally psychotic murderers?
You're full of S.
He's dead, Jim.
Expect the REALLY dangerous people who make you look like a 5 year old girl stealing cookies to get mad
Remember there is always someone more evil , more dangerous or more crazy than you
(even if you are leader of a cult)
If you steal you can't complain when another criminal hits you with a rock and takes your stolen goods
if you destroy a fleet you can't complain if someone destroys yours
if you behave like a jerk you have no right to moan if someone smacks you in the nose for it
What you may not know is that this is irrelevant and I stand by my last statement.
You just supplied further proof.
He's dead, Jim.
EDIT: Sorry, all. This is going no where good fast and I think the thread has exhausted itself. -Brandon
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