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fedman70
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What's a good way to do it. I have 11 toons and I suppose I could make at least 1440x11=15840 a day, doing either Explore Strange New Worlds, or We need Breathing Room, very time consuming though, and I'd only to make, about 150, or 160 zen a day doing this.
Fleet actions seem to be the way to go, and ideally you'd want all your toons to be VA level 50 or the highest General Rank to get all of them. But, this would also take forever, I have one VA right now, and the highest ranking Alt I have is Lt Commander.
Can you recommend a good level I could get them to, say when he will have 3-4 fleet actions he can do? If I could get all my toons to have 3, I could alternate, work on another toon while the others are having their fleet action timers cool down.
Fleet actions seem to be the way to go, and ideally you'd want all your toons to be VA level 50 or the highest General Rank to get all of them. But, this would also take forever, I have one VA right now, and the highest ranking Alt I have is Lt Commander.
Can you recommend a good level I could get them to, say when he will have 3-4 fleet actions he can do? If I could get all my toons to have 3, I could alternate, work on another toon while the others are having their fleet action timers cool down.
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but you might find the mirror incursion and foundry missions are your best options
I've just been told that, the KDF enemy empires ones give you 1440 dil each, but if this is one of them, it doesn't- according to the wiki
http://www.stowiki.org/Mission:_Empire_Defense_Against_Cardassian_Aggression
Do each of the diplomatic missions in turn, and even with stopping to collect the samples in the maps, that would be Explore done in 10 minutes, with 300 Diplomacy xp as an added bonus.
That's 7680 dilithium and takes roughly 90 minutes (excluding the third investigation).
Elite STFs work fine, too, altho they're slightly slower most of the time - if you're lucky you can finish 8 of them within 90 minutes, too, tho - which would be roughly equivalent - but you have to periodically switch characters and do space only.
He's dead, Jim.
Therefore, "traditional" dil farming is pretty much dead, as there is little benefit to sending 11 alts through one spot to earn gobs of dilithium, instead, the system is geared to pay approximately the same to 11 alts as it would to 2-3 spending the same amount of time in action...
With that said, if you really want to maximize dilithium earnings through massive repetition of one or two activities, you're gonna want to look at the two major "easy" payouts - Infected Space Elite and the DOff mission "turn in contraband"...
ISE is 960 Dil + periodic turning in of excess marks and BNPs, for 10-15 minutes of "work". Done 3 times in an hour (3 separate toons once maxed via Mirror Incursion) = 2,880+ per hour's play.
What makes "turn in contraband" so appealing is that since it's normally an "only one instance of TiC running at a given time" mission, 11 alts = 11 "concurrent" turn-ins. What makes this method time intensive is gathering up (in your case) 55 contraband to run the cycle - though with enough study you could maybe find ways to do this on a daily basis with 2-3 KDF officers...
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The wiki's wrong. All of them (Kahless, T'kanis, ChoS, and Yan) give 1,440 dil per completion.
You'll also sometimes get The Most Dangerous Game - Space at the same time, so that'll be an additional 480.
I find one of the best dilithium earners for the KDF is contraband. Go marauding with your DOffs, and hand the contraband to your fed characters so they can get dil from the security kitty.
Do the Academy mission for 480 and setup Doff missions at the Academy. You'll need a good source of Doffs to be really successful. Aim for Crits, but you'll need really good Doffs for that.
What level do they have to be to do those? Looks like those are part of a chain actually.
I've tried doing a few elites, people really need to know what they're doing, on Infected Manus, we've failed a few times, (doing a public STF) Kimberly killed us all and it sucks that if you all die you have to destroy the shield generator again, disable all the shields, upload the viruses, so I'm guessing this is why people drop out of it.
And, is "Infected Space Elite" the exact name of the mission?
Finally, how can I give contraband from my KDF's to my Fed toons (on the same account)
I haven't been on a team, yet but I'm guessing the way this works is if we are, then we can do separate systems and get the mission done that fast?
Infected Space Elite is a STF mission check your PVE queue under your minimap.
any to give contraband and any non bound item visit a mailbox and mail the item to your self *(in the to find user whatever your name is IE for me its @tribble2013)
I'm not sure about the Empire Defense missions level requirement. They might scale to the players level.
They're at first available as a Tutorial (which is only one run with 480 dil reward or so) - the actual misison afterwards is three runs in each nebule (4 missions in total).
Each mission has a 20h cooldown.
In general I was assuming a level 50 character with decent gear (altho end-game gear is by no means necessary, just grab some Mk XII [dmg] uncommon weapons of the same damage type and corresponding tactical consoles).
In regards to elite STFs:
Ground is more difficult than space - or at the very least takes more time - so they're not a good choice to farm dilithium.
To do Elites people need some experience, but any somewhat decent dps loadout will do for space, so that's not very restrictive.
He's dead, Jim.
you all have to still do the same mission at the same time do get completion for everyone, but with three people you can find systems a lot quicker.
Infected space is probly the easiest. A good sci ship can insure the optional with all but the most beligerant pugs. If all goes well, you just add some dps and debuffs. If things go south you turn and TBR, GW, EWP if you have it... turn and help blast the transformer. 9 times out of 10 you can turn an disaster into a completed optional. Sometimes you get a whole group of skittle-shooters that goes and pops generators on both sides or some sillyness... but that level of fail is actually pretty rare. Usually its only one person who slips up and hits a generator too hard or just doesn't understand the flow yet.
Run is under 15 minutes. Elite STF reward dill + turning in the marks for dill + BNP turn ins... you have the characters to run it over and over and over and never hit a cooldown.
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1-) You can easily send contraband from your KDF to your FED using the account bank. Those bank slots can be accessed by any character on the same account.
2-) As cmdrscarlet answered to you, just don't do it on your 11 tons. It will stop being a game and will become a job. It will not be any fun and will wear you out.
That's what I usually do:
On my KDF I run the Pi Canis Alpha and Beta patrol missions (960 dil each) and the Path of the Warrior (2400 dil). You complete Path by doing the optional on all missions of Pi Canis Alpha and Beta which is not difficult at all. It takes some 45 minutes and you get 4320 dil.
Than, investigate officer reports (50 fleet marks besides the dil). You can run it before and after the missions above and some 2 STF more and you dil cap is done.
Just dont turn the game into a job. Have fun!
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This came to mind after I asked, but thanks.
Well, if I want to make some decent Zen, I obviously need decent dilithium. Since, that's the only way to earn it free, outside of the free offers from peanut labs. I'm wondering with these people with hundreds of thousands of Zen how long it took them to get it all, assuming that they didn't pay any real money for it. Does anyone, say make---1000 Zen a day from dil?
And, yes I'm glad I see I'm not the only one who doesn't like to do Explore Strange New Worlds/WNBR 11 times in a row (I actually haven't done that, but could) but I do like the Dilithium, but it looks like there are better, shorter ways to do it.
Maybe it will be more of a grind to get my toons up to General 50, or VA 50. Currently I have one VA toon. Good thing it's easier to get a KDF toon to 50, since they start at Commander. I'm tempted to make more KDF characters (maybe Delete some FEDS and replace them with them.)
Well, I wouldn't mind "working" say if I, MYSELF could sell Zen for real money, like how Diablo 3 let's you sell virtual items for real money, PE has the monopoly on that unfortunately.
It's easy and rather reliable to earn 1 dilithium per dil - zen - dil transaction. 2 or 3 dilithium are possible in the very short term - more in the (speculative realm of the) longterm.
So, at the current rate, to earn one zen you need a turnover of about ~30-90 zen.
Let's assume 50 (which might be optimistic but easy on the math).
I don't know how much turnover conceivably is possible per day in total (you'd have to ask a bulk-trader, and he might be reluctant to part with that information), but 10.000 zen traded by one person in a day wouldn't seem unusual (judging by ordinary "stack sizes").
10.000 / 50 = 200 Zen. So it would take a turnover of 50.000 Zen to earn 1000 Zen, according to this hypothesis.
I'm unsure whether this can be achieved reliably, but it's not impossible.
He's dead, Jim.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, you mean kind of riding wave of the wave of the two exchanges. So, hypothetically, if say you could get 1 zen for 1 dil then
1. Buy 1 zen for 1 dil
2. Sell 1 zen for 2 dil
3. Buy 2 zen with 2 dil
So, you just doubled your dil and thus your Zen? Kind of like playing the stock market? Right now on Holodeck dil to zen going for 89 at the cheapest per 1 zen, and 88 dil per selling 1 zen. So, I can't really use the fluctuating price right now to do anything, if I bought
get 1 zen for 89 dil
get 88 dil for 1 zen
Then I'd actually lose out. You don't mean Dil ever sells for 30-90 Zen do you? I've never seen it go lower than the 80's on the dil exchange.
And, how does the new offer go up on that board? Suppose, I wanted to sell my 100 Zen for 30 dil each, it would not even show up in the list. I guess it's when someone's dil/zen offer is totally sold out.
I instantly get the Zen/Dil, if I match one the offers exactly.
Before it went down, the rule of thumb I was using was 1 Zen generally went for 100 dil, so you'd really need 100K dil to get 1K Zen
You critically failed your reading comprehension check.
Also, care to elaborate how "Cryptic artificially inflated prices again"?
Preferrably at least the 2 most recent instances of it.
You only failed the check normally.
What I was saying is:
Buy Zen @ 86, sell zen @ 88 = a profit of 2 dilithium per unit of zen traded, for example.
He's dead, Jim.
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As far as getting your daily dil done. If you run 7 successful elite STFs. You will get a minimum of 6720 dill + 7 bnps (5 BNPs makes 1000 dill) and + 420 Omega Marks. (50 OM makes 500 dill)
Which will give you 8220 dill + 2 bnps and 370 Omega Marks to save for future projects.
If you are kitted with at least blue mark xi gear, learn to keybind buffs and cycle them constantly, know the established eSTF strategies and a good dedicated Elite STF channel. You can get that in an hour plus.
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Frigates (can be accompanied by as many as 2 other frigates, or an assortment of small craft): 1 group
1 cruiser or escort = 1 group
For the Borg and Cardassians, they have no fighters. Their battle groups are as follows:
Cardies: Jem'Hadar Attack Ship/Hideki Class, Keldon Class, Galor Class
Borg: Probes(groups can be 2 or 3 in number), Sphere, and Cube
ROLL TIDE ROLL
I destroyed some Romulan Escorts didn't get credit for destroying a battle group though.
A single cruiser OR escort is considered a battle group for the purposes of the mission. They never group together as with frigates or frigates/small craft.
Escorts:
Federation: way too many to list
Romulan: Mogai Escort
Borg: Sphere
Cardassian: Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort
Cruisers:
Fed: Again, too numerous to list
Romulan: D'deridex Warbird
Borg: Cube
Cardassian: Jem'Hadar Battleship or Keldon Class (probably Galor too, I'm half asleep as I type this)
Frigate-class groups usually consist of (1) multiple frigates or (2) a single frigate accompanied by several fighters (Peregrines or Scorpion, depending on faction). Feds can also have a frigate accompanied by runabouts or shuttles.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
Teamed Epohh tagging five minutes per day over five days nets you enough tags to breed Epohhs. Five more days of up-breeding your Womulan Wabbit later, you can turn them in for 400 Romulan Marks (with a conversion value of 4k dil).
The last one sounds a bit convoluted, but IMHO gives the best return on investment in time and effort.