On topic: asymetric armor, i don't like it either...but it doens't matter. Endgame gear is Maco, khg, omega anyway and those look awesome imho (even the mk xi versions)
and there are so many costumes that look fantastic that the armor shouldn't be even remotely an issue.
The enlisted guys are the ones that get things done.
"Do I look like an officer to you?! I earn my paycheck!"
I'm now at an unfortunate dilemma where I'm really thinking about keeping the lower tier armor equipped just for the look.
I click the little eyeball that turns off the visuals because I put a bit of effort into getting my uniform just right at the tailor and I want to see it.
Sollvax, you consistently fish for aggressive retorts, and often post quite unneeded and patronising one line comments in threads. A memorable example is in a thread concerning bugs during ship switching, you simply say "Don't switch ships". Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but everyone must also bear the consequences for throwing them around too. I would say you are the abusive one.
yes armour for soldiers I have no problem with
but not for starfleet officers
To start, per Mr. Roddenberry's beliefs, as stated in early seasons of TNG, being placed in command of a starship of any sort is supposed to disqualify said officer from ground duties, and if said captain was to beam down, it is either a tested and confirmed "safe" diplomatic situation that only the ship's captain can solve, or with a full squad of "redshirts" that are tasked with surrounding the captain and preventing any harm from befalling said captain, even at the costs of their lives. Oh, at the first sign of trouble, said captain is to be extricated, immediately...
It was only upon Gene's death that Picard actually started getting put into harms way and "kirking" it a little...
Thusly, per Gene's "beliefs", our PCs should only be visible on the bridges of our starships, the first contact diplomatic explorations in the lounge, and/or on trips to Admiral Quinn's office, the rest of the time, we should be playing (at the highest rank) our XO or, more appropriately, some enlisted grunt...
Oh, wait. That wouldn't make for an interesting game, would it? Making a nifty Captain/Admiral and never seeing it because it's "beneath" said officer's duties to "shop" for a pile of commodities, ship part (like ships are highly customizable in the first place) or weapons to stock the armory with.
Thusly, and I'm taking liberties here, "canon" was re-designed, post Gene's death, of course, to highlight the "kirking" of captains everywhere, and, in this war-torn postulation of the universe, Starfleet and it's staff elected to allow/mandate both the wearing of armor and the creation of personal deflector shield generators to help protect the "most important assets" of any starship - specifically the crew...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Sollvax, you consistently fish for aggressive retorts, and often post quite unneeded and patronising one line comments in threads. A memorable example is in a thread concerning bugs during ship switching, you simply say "Don't switch ships". Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but everyone must also bear the consequences for throwing them around too. I would say you are the abusive one.
Pardon me, but is that not the commonly accepted definition of "trolling"? At least, before it became "HURR DURR I TROLL U EPIC TROLL"?
Yes a SANE person who does not want to look like an orbital drop suicide trooper
Remember no starfleet officer in ANY of the series ever strapped on a minigun and full battle armour
Wronge.
Enterprise the Maco units aboard NX-01 used armor and the mirror universe had a mini gun
Nemesis the movie there was a mini gun
Star Trek deep space 9 Worf used a blast cannon
Star Trek voyager a few epasodes they had armor on in the later sessions
Star Trek JJ Abrams you see Maco units in the background with armor on also the drop suits you see sulu and Kirk ware are a form of armor.
-"There is no such thing as an I win button!""Um, Sir. Whats this button that says (I win) for then?"
Wronge.
Enterprise the Maco units aboard NX-01 used armor and the mirror universe had a mini gun
Nemesis the movie there was a mini gun
Star Trek deep space 9 Worf used a blast cannon
Star Trek voyager a few epasodes they had armor on in the later sessions
Star Trek JJ Abrams you see Maco units in the background with armor on also the drop suits you see sulu and Kirk ware are a form of armor.
The TOS-era films also had armored security personnel.
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voyager has a largely civilian crew and is WAY off regs yes
thus proving its not trek
but those are "environmental suits"
not armour
I know a mini gun and a blast cannon aren't the same but they are both assault weapons
I'm about 100% sure Maco's are star fleet. It like the marines and the end of the day it's department of the navy
-"There is no such thing as an I win button!""Um, Sir. Whats this button that says (I win) for then?"
Maco are not starfleet officers
this is observable from enterprise
Sollvax, we understand that there is a distinction between them outside of the game.
However inside the game, there is no such class of player and the distinction is moot. The in-game armor referred to as MACO is wearable by Federation players by design and that's that.
We don't need to argue about this, okay?
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I agree with sollvax that only soldiers should be wearing armor. Which is true. But the Federation is at war... so all of their Officers are soldiers. And as such, all should be wearing armor.
:P :rolleyes:
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I agree with sollvax that only soldiers should be wearing armor. Which is true. But the Federation is at war... so all of their Officers are soldiers. And as such, all should be wearing armor.
:P :rolleyes:
Yup :-) Powerarmors for the win!!! I'm sad that we don't see more armor for starfleet officiers in the movies/series.
But asymmetrical armor is still a silly anime thing. Even if it looks "cool" in animes
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On topic: asymetric armor, i don't like it either...but it doens't matter. Endgame gear is Maco, khg, omega anyway and those look awesome imho (even the mk xi versions)
and there are so many costumes that look fantastic that the armor shouldn't be even remotely an issue.
"Do I look like an officer to you?! I earn my paycheck!"
I click the little eyeball that turns off the visuals because I put a bit of effort into getting my uniform just right at the tailor and I want to see it.
So does the officer
and the difference is He is the one who catches it in the neck when the enlisted guy screws up
The asymmetrical armor looks silly. Like most anime armor xD
I like the futuristic Omega set. The ST version of a powered armor :-) And the KHG set looks too much of a clich? ;-) Because you know: NO CAPES xD
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To start, per Mr. Roddenberry's beliefs, as stated in early seasons of TNG, being placed in command of a starship of any sort is supposed to disqualify said officer from ground duties, and if said captain was to beam down, it is either a tested and confirmed "safe" diplomatic situation that only the ship's captain can solve, or with a full squad of "redshirts" that are tasked with surrounding the captain and preventing any harm from befalling said captain, even at the costs of their lives. Oh, at the first sign of trouble, said captain is to be extricated, immediately...
It was only upon Gene's death that Picard actually started getting put into harms way and "kirking" it a little...
Thusly, per Gene's "beliefs", our PCs should only be visible on the bridges of our starships, the first contact diplomatic explorations in the lounge, and/or on trips to Admiral Quinn's office, the rest of the time, we should be playing (at the highest rank) our XO or, more appropriately, some enlisted grunt...
Oh, wait. That wouldn't make for an interesting game, would it? Making a nifty Captain/Admiral and never seeing it because it's "beneath" said officer's duties to "shop" for a pile of commodities, ship part (like ships are highly customizable in the first place) or weapons to stock the armory with.
Thusly, and I'm taking liberties here, "canon" was re-designed, post Gene's death, of course, to highlight the "kirking" of captains everywhere, and, in this war-torn postulation of the universe, Starfleet and it's staff elected to allow/mandate both the wearing of armor and the creation of personal deflector shield generators to help protect the "most important assets" of any starship - specifically the crew...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Pardon me, but is that not the commonly accepted definition of "trolling"? At least, before it became "HURR DURR I TROLL U EPIC TROLL"?
Wronge.
Enterprise the Maco units aboard NX-01 used armor and the mirror universe had a mini gun
Nemesis the movie there was a mini gun
Star Trek deep space 9 Worf used a blast cannon
Star Trek voyager a few epasodes they had armor on in the later sessions
Star Trek JJ Abrams you see Maco units in the background with armor on also the drop suits you see sulu and Kirk ware are a form of armor.
The TOS-era films also had armored security personnel.
HURR DURR... XD XD XD
Macos are NOT Starfleet
Not that I recall
which is also NOT a mini gun
voyager has a largely civilian crew and is WAY off regs yes
thus proving its not trek
but those are "environmental suits"
not armour
All Omega related items, be KDF or Fed, seem symetrical so far.
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I know a mini gun and a blast cannon aren't the same but they are both assault weapons
I'm about 100% sure Maco's are star fleet. It like the marines and the end of the day it's department of the navy
this is observable from enterprise
Sollvax, we understand that there is a distinction between them outside of the game.
However inside the game, there is no such class of player and the distinction is moot. The in-game armor referred to as MACO is wearable by Federation players by design and that's that.
We don't need to argue about this, okay?
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Yup :-) Powerarmors for the win!!! I'm sad that we don't see more armor for starfleet officiers in the movies/series.
But asymmetrical armor is still a silly anime thing. Even if it looks "cool" in animes
Yep. I think he meant kits more then armor.
Which IMO the Tac kits do kinda look like and armor suit anyway :P.
As for "not wearing armor", I agree with the people saying the SANE officers would get some protective gear if they know it might be hostile.
No...I was definitely talking about the armor.
I gave up on wearing the kits as soon as I hit Admiral and realized how ridiculously bulky they became.
But the Science ones look so cool. The Engineer ones just look like you are wearing Lego bricks...
I've only played as a Tactical Officer.
Well there's your problem.
What was that for an armor? Fleet stuff?
Be the Trek you want to see in this universe. :cool:
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