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What's the point of Ship Crew?
lordhavelock
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I'm not talking about Bridge Officers or Duty Officers, I'm talking about that "stat" number in your character ship that says you have x crew. My Excelsior has 750 crew, for example.
I know there's a meter in my HUD that shows me how many crew I've got alive, injured or dead, and when they are restored. I know some consoles (like the Biofunction Monitor) keep them alive/well.
What what's the point of the Crew? I've noticed mine nearly gone, but don't notice any drop in performance. Is it just an RP thing? Is there any actual consequence to having dead crew?
I know there's a meter in my HUD that shows me how many crew I've got alive, injured or dead, and when they are restored. I know some consoles (like the Biofunction Monitor) keep them alive/well.
What what's the point of the Crew? I've noticed mine nearly gone, but don't notice any drop in performance. Is it just an RP thing? Is there any actual consequence to having dead crew?
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Yeah, here it is. I think most of this is still true.
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srsly, 90% of the time, on my defiant I dont have more than 10 crewmen alive (though I love to imagine my char running around the ship, doing everything alone)
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Seriously, the hull regeneration rate slows down to a crawl, that's all.
Here's why:
1) Noticeable effects of crew are minimal.
2) They die too easy (seriously, they are dead all of the time, half your crew will be vaporized within the first 30s of an STF or other combat scenarios).
3) No ship has enough console slots to dedicate slots to important things like Armor Consoles or Field Gens (large impacts on performance) and also have slots left over for things like Biofunction Monitors or Emergency Forcefields.
On a side note #3 is something that leads me to feel that we need to see combined function consoles across the board for Eng & Sci in particular. Tac is fine with specialized consoles (although it does force everyone into single energy types for best performance).
So, yeah, there doesn't appear to be any real use to crew besides, as Hanover2 says, to lay dead or unconscious on the deck. lol
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Since time imemorial captains have been asking; "Just what is this crew thing any way?". There has been much scratching of heads and some one always speeks up; "erm it helps with your ships passive hull repair rate i think." Some times others chime in; "Dosnt it effect your abilities too... I am sure some one said somthing about crew effecting our abilites."
The truth as far as I have ever been able to assertain is that crew definatly effects your passive hull repair rate. Possibly effects your system repair rate, and dosnt seem to effect anything else in the slightest.
I ignore my crew. My crew ignore me. Its a relationship that works. Who needs crew when they have hazard emiters and auxilery power to structual integrity field any way?
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A short snip from my old post:
In the old skill system you could see the numbers on the skills buffs change as crew were killed (An example: Science Team boosted the Starship Operations Training skill, so it gave an increase to Polarize Hull because that power benefited from Starship Operations Training. Fewer Crew = less skill buff = lower Polarize Hull resistances.)
I haven't checked to see if this still applies to the new skill system but I noticed those abilities don't directly buff skills anymore.
Fly a carrier. The majority of the time they don't have more then 10 crewman alive either.
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Also I'll add this here because it amuses me and I haven't had an excuse to post it before:
Timeship shuttles Bridge Officer slots: 2 crew: 1
which generates two possiblities:
1. Crew excludes BOffs and the Captain meaning 3 people ordering that 1 crewman about
2. Crew includes BOffs and Cpt. (given the standard of round numbers for crew, likely) meaning that the BOffs are either in Hammerspace somewhere, or granting their abilities from another time.
Make of that thought what you will
Add to that the (in some cases) hundreds of duty officers you're also tagging along.
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too bad we cant manage them like in FTL -- THAT would be hellafun
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The rate even a full compliment repairs in combat is so low you have to rely on Boff abilities for repairs anyways, so you might as well ignore that indicator.
and thats why they are nicknamed flying graveyards XD
I hope STO get's better ...
No but really overall it's not a stat anyone really cares much about.
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I've noticed a direct connection to the ability of my sci ship to repair it's hull. I assume less crew equals more time engaging in some ship activities (repairs, defense against boarding parties, emergency engine performance, etc).
With a small sci ship (200 crew) my margins lie on the edge. I care about my crew and invested in crew protection and heal consoles. Without the consoles and crew I've noticed that it takes longer to repair my ship in battle.
there always dead most of the time.
but kdf side have the Honor guard set which allows them
to have crew resist and recovery while the federation are
completely naked and some how the ships run perfectly
when there all dead. puzzling.
but yea as gerwalk0769 said, theres a slight decrease in your ability
to repair, decrease in healing slightly, boff cool downs increase by a few seconds,
and thust the reason why everyone on the fed side so dependent on the borg set
kdf dont have issues when it comes to the crew and fed does, and the reason
why so many people complain about kdf being OP.
and yes i was a kdf player but recently went back to fed
got bored with being on the kdf side and no one wanting
to do the fleet mark events. and pvp is completely one sided.
yes alittle off topic but i had to say it.
Well, generally, they aren't killed. It's more the medical teams have taken these people off duty until next episode/scene changes.
I laughed, out loud, and loudly, for reals.
Though to be fair, it seems we care slightly more for the bulk of the crew in STO as any captain did in any series or movie--slightly above not-at-all.
I will say this though:
Pro'lly no one notices because no one uses Engi abilities that often, and if we do we're too frantic to notice. I'm wondering if I head out to a PvP with a buddy, he wails on me until my crew are dead and gets me to ~10% health, then I pop a Structural Field 1, and have him notice how far my Hull jumps to. Repeat with full crew (if I can, that'd be... hard to pull off... maybe throw on the Crew protection consoles first?), and repeat. I also suspect it affects Power Level Transfer Rate, as EPS really makes a massive difference in all stats, and is a native Engi ability.
I think/suspect/have-no-proof-of-but-it-would-make-sense that the amount regenerated would be different. This'd be far easier to tell if I could see shield/hull levels as numbers instead of graphics/percentages on the fly, without menus open.
And I can say that at least Tac Team is affected by percentage of Crew alive.
^^
It is so ridiculous... I too have zero crew most of the time in my bug or my defiant. I sit there an witness 1 torpedo impacting full shields and just watch my 50 man crew go down to almost zero. It's like the kinetic/physical damage of the torpedo affects significant crew loss even though my shields and hull are hardly affected. That means that crew loss is too sensitive.
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