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Any Word on Hive (Space) Elite Being Toned Down?
wilsonfrontier
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Is it just me (and my fleet's) opinion, or is the Hive Elite (Space) almost impossible? I mean, we beat it but it was at a significant cost of time and frustration (and repair components!) and... any word on it being balanced?
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Yes, some minor adjustments were made, but in the end, all it really took was a good strat, and people working together.
I say wait a month, run it regularly, and then take a stance on the topic.
My fleet and I almost hit the optional in our first run, so it can't be super hard... Hard yes... But not impossible.
Yea i don't want to see more Nerfing in the game i want to see Players getting smarter about the game play, quit dumbing the game down, payers need to smarten up.
Yea its great fun. Not!
STOP BEING A WIMP AND JUST FIGHT.
No, but it's not "almost impossible." I just ran a team of four fleet members and a pugger through hive elite and we got all the optionals. Even if one of our players was running a rainbow ody and died like *checks the parser* six times.
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THIS ISN'T SEASON 6 LADIES AND GENTS. The Borg aren't scrubs you can faceroll anymore. Get used to it.
I get 2/3 on most of my pug runs. It's not that hard. The only time I end up dying on my escort is when everyone else dies in phase 2 and I end up eating a full Torp Spread by myself.
The lance weapons are going to kill you if you stop moving, so keep moving and you'll stay alive longer. You can porpise in and out of range, 11 to 9km from the baddie, so you can get out of range easily to heal up and return to the fight quickly.
As for the torpedo spreads, something not visible is ahead of that spread that takes down a shield facing. It's about .5 to 1km ahead of the lead torpedo. I upgraded video cards to a current gen card without a change in being able to see this nasty surprise.
With a shield facing down just before the arrival of torpedos, it's certain doom if you aren't prepared for it. You can use brace for impact along with polarize hull to minimize the damage from the torpedos.
If absorbing damage is not your thing, torpedoes are only able to fly so far before they explode, so using evasive maneuvers to move far away helps. The down side to flying away is waiting for full impulse power to be available to get back in range of the baddies.
The first part: pulled too many cubes and spheres -> got killed and enemies were on our spawn point. after waiting for all to respawn and not one after another we got rid of them and could continue, needed too much time for optional, but ok.
Second part: difficulty is ok but enemies should more focus on one target (me with thread control) instead of killing the others flying escorts...
third pard: the queen should also be affected more by thread control, she even selects carrier pets as target. but since only one must stay alive i can live with that.
our problem was: is she really that hard to kill or did we have too bad dps? we could't even get the shields down... we were shooting and shooting but at least we could get her down.
her damage output was ok for me, after a while i figured out when to use brace for impact etc. and didn't die anymore.
after all i would say: difficulty is fine, maybe adjust the way those two big vessels and the queen select their target and increase the reward because it is really hard compared to the other STFs
The issue is that there's so many enemies that if you aggro too much of the room at once, you're horribly screwed, and getting close to the unimatrix ships and the diamond are bad ideas. Really, the only change I see that might be a good idea, is preventing cubes from spawn camping.
Um... No, you are doing it wrong if you die that much in Khitomer Ground. I run that plenty and die maybe once or twice if I do something overly stupid.
Here's a hint: you want to kill the Borg effectively? Bring their shields down. But here's a spoiler: the Borg have hardened shields on ground elites. Your weapons will only do at most 25% of their normal damage elite borg shields. But once their shields are down, your damage will return to normal.
Recommended weapons: Phased Tetryon Pulsewave Assault (actually tetryon pulsewaves work too, tetryon anything for that matter). It gives you KB, and slows targets and possibly nukes their shields too. And if your team focus fires on the dangerous drones (aka tacticals, heavy tacticals, elite tacticals), you won't have any trouble. A lesser known fact is you can melee stun lock heavies and elites. Have someone use a melee weapon on them, and they will start to attack them instead, and the rest of the team can kill them.
Your main problem is your team was probably stupid and aggro'd the whole force field chamber, which yes, will likely result in your whole team dying, but stay dead. After all of you are dead, the drones will return to their original spots. Then you guys can respawn, and more carefully take out the groups ONE AT A TIME. And don't be afraid to run away from the Borg. I mean, they are the Borg ffs.
The Borg aren't unbeatable. I have beaten that mission too many times on elite during S7 to even consider that statement having the slightest grain of truth in it. And don't pug. Seriously. That's just asking to lose.