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warrenhammandwarrenhammand Member Posts: 0 Arc User
First half of 2013? Really? This is the same ship that has been promised for almost 3 years. Can we at least see a picture, not to say I think you are blowing smoke up everyone's butts, but something solid would be nice to see.
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    captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What does a cosplayer have to do with Andorian ships? I heard that the Andorian ship will be a broadsider where instead of having front and back weapons it has left and right weapons.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,846 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    What does a cosplayer have to do with Andorian ships? I heard that the Andorian ship will be a broadsider where instead of having front and back weapons it has left and right weapons.

    Honestly...I don't see what would be the point of that...the idea of a broadsider sounds kinda pointless to me.
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    brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    A 1-month estimate becomes a 6 month window. Wonder what the excuse will be when we're in the second half of 2013 with no Andorian ship.

    And it has a custom bridge? "Ha ha ha TRIBBLE you Vesta buyers." :rolleyes:
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    thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    brigadooom wrote: »
    "Ha ha ha TRIBBLE you Vesta buyers." :rolleyes:

    Vestas probably wouldn't have very unique bridges anyway, considering they aren't actually relatively recent ships in the Trek timeline.

    And since there's still very little to do on Bridges even with the Doff assignments, it's really not a big deal.
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    scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    brigadooom wrote: »
    And it has a custom bridge? "Ha ha ha TRIBBLE you D'kyr, Orion, Nausican, and Gorn buyers." :rolleyes:

    That fits more appropriately. :D
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    reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    I heard that the Andorian ship will be a broadsider where instead of having front and back weapons it has left and right weapons.

    But if they did that, then wouldn't the fore/aft approach be the most lethal where the side-mounted beams overlap? Of would you be mounting DHCs port / turrets starboard?
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    mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    But if they did that, then wouldn't the fore/aft approach be the most lethal where the side-mounted beams overlap? Of would you be mounting DHCs port / turrets starboard?

    I'd see it more like DHCs or single cannons. Would be kinda cool though.
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    olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    All I know is a male Andorian ship will be shorter than its female counterpart.
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    warrenhammandwarrenhammand Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    brigadooom wrote: »
    A 1-month estimate becomes a 6 month window. Wonder what the excuse will be when we're in the second half of 2013 with no Andorian ship.

    Any sort of explanation about why it is suddenly a possible 6 months away from being finished would be nice. Just keep us in the loop a little bit cryptic. Some of us have literally been waiting years for this.
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    direphoenixdirephoenix Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    First half of 2013? Really? This is the same ship that has been promised for almost 3 years. Can we at least see a picture, not to say I think you are blowing smoke up everyone's butts, but something solid would be nice to see.

    You probably don't hang around many Ambassador-class fans.
    starkaos wrote: »
    I heard that the Andorian ship will be a broadsider where instead of having front and back weapons it has left and right weapons.

    They've mentioned a broadsiding ship concept several times over the past couple(?) years. It really doesn't fit with the Andorian's style though (which would be more along the lines of an Escort "all guns forward" approach). I think that concept would be much better suited for a Tellarite ship.
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    aaronh42aaronh42 Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    This is extremely disappointing for me.

    I was really looking forward to the andorian ship. It sounds like he made the announcement in error, I can understand that. Still doesn't make me any happier about it not coming out next month.
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    beerstickmanbeerstickman Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. I have saved Zen in anticipation for this ship. I have waited along time. I even leveled an Andorian for this ship. We had been told it was going to be a broadsider. In the latest description, it was said it was an escort with alot of guns. I truly hope whatever this "Escort" is they are talking about is not the "Kumari" which is a battlecruiser, not an escort. Wouldnt make any sense to have an escort be a broadsider either. I however am not freaking out yet either. They have said there will be Andorian "Ships". I just hope they dont do something dumb, like give us an Andorian escort, then stick the battlecruiser in a lockbox..
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. I have saved Zen in anticipation for this ship. I have waited along time. I even leveled an Andorian for this ship. We had been told it was going to be a broadsider. In the latest description, it was said it was an escort with alot of guns. I truly hope whatever this "Escort" is they are talking about is not the "Kumari" which is a battlecruiser, not an escort. Wouldnt make any sense to have an escort be a broadsider either. I however am not freaking out yet either. They have said there will be Andorian "Ships". I just hope they dont do something dumb, like give us an Andorian escort, then stick the battlecruiser in a lockbox..

    Well if they stick any Andorian ship in a lock boxs, The War of Season 7, and The Veteran rewards riots will pale in comparison.

    The Vulcan ship, and Catain ship were not lockbox, and doing that to the Andorian...well yeah it will get ugly, and I will not have enough Popcorn in the world to watch that battle. :D
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    thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. I have saved Zen in anticipation for this ship. I have waited along time. I even leveled an Andorian for this ship. We had been told it was going to be a broadsider. In the latest description, it was said it was an escort with alot of guns. I truly hope whatever this "Escort" is they are talking about is not the "Kumari" which is a battlecruiser, not an escort. Wouldnt make any sense to have an escort be a broadsider either. I however am not freaking out yet either. They have said there will be Andorian "Ships". I just hope they dont do something dumb, like give us an Andorian escort, then stick the battlecruiser in a lockbox..

    They've already confirmed the next Lockbox will be Dominion-themed, so unless the Andorians are defecting I doubt they'd put them in that one.
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    beerstickmanbeerstickman Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well if they stick any Andorian ship in a lock boxs, The War of Season 7, and The Veteran rewards riots will pale in comparison.

    The Vulcan ship, and Catain ship were not lockbox, and doing that to the Andorian...well yeah it will get ugly, and I will not have enough Popcorn in the world to watch that battle.

    Amen! I would be one of those fighting as well. I just wish we could actually get some clearcut answers on the Andorian ships.

    #1 Which ship exactly are they releasing as the escort?

    #2 Which ship is the broadsider?

    #3 Can they confirm to us "the people" that these Andorian ships will be in the C-store?

    I have asked #3 countless times, even asked mr D-stahl when he was in game once. I have NEVER got an answer from someone at Cryptic on this. Sure ive been told by players, Oh they are Andorians, they will be in the C-store..but its all speculation on the players part.
    Untill someone from Cryptic can confirm it, i fear it will be in a lockbox.
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    stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    thratch1 wrote: »
    They've already confirmed the next Lockbox will be Dominion-themed, so unless the Andorians are defecting I doubt they'd put them in that one.

    You're forgetting that there will be a lockbox *after* the dominion lockbox.

    Given that it's getting a bridge, my money says it's going in that one. As far as I'm aware, the only non-lockbox ships to get a bridge were the TOS Connie, and the DS9 bundled Defiant (you didn't actually get a ship, you got a bridge and interior pack on the latter).
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    stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. I have saved Zen in anticipation for this ship. I have waited along time. I even leveled an Andorian for this ship. We had been told it was going to be a broadsider. In the latest description, it was said it was an escort with alot of guns. I truly hope whatever this "Escort" is they are talking about is not the "Kumari" which is a battlecruiser, not an escort. Wouldnt make any sense to have an escort be a broadsider either. I however am not freaking out yet either. They have said there will be Andorian "Ships". I just hope they dont do something dumb, like give us an Andorian escort, then stick the battlecruiser in a lockbox..

    With the way they handled the Akira there is already a precedent for cruiser-weight ships being tagged as escorts. All they need to do is slap a Kumari appearance on the Breen cruiser, let it load cannons (if it can't already, I can't remember off the top of my head) and hey presto, legions of Shran fans are made happy in an instant.
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    brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The andorian ship should have all tactical bridge stations and consoles, and no other bridge stations or consoles of any other type :P
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    purvee1purvee1 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    aaronh42 wrote: »
    This is extremely disappointing for me.

    I was really looking forward to the andorian ship. It sounds like he made the announcement in error, I can understand that. Still doesn't make me any happier about it not coming out next month.

    Remember he also said something along the lines of: "Season 8 will be all about the KDF!" to "We're still trying to get permission to do something with the KDF" in the space of about two weeks.

    So going from Januray to first half of 2013 isn't that big a deal.

    However on the subject of the andorian ship: About bloody time! When I saw the Andorian ship appear on the Engineering report I was intrested, then it moved up one step so I started leveling a Andorian captain, with a 100% Andorian crew. Even managed to knock together a sort of Andorian uniform from availible parts.

    And that brings us to three years later...
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    momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Changing the weapons from front/back to left/right is a very significant thing. I'm not sure people really appreciate this. It all boils down to the fact that in order to use front weapons you must face your target, and if you're facing your target, then you are either closing range at high speed, reversing slowly, or being stationary (being stationary is bad).

    Putting weapons on the SIDE of the ship is what enables you to fly at high speed while firing on a target and not getting any closer to it. It combines offense and defense. The trouble with doing this using traditional beam arrays is that beam arrays are ridiculously inefficient with their power usage. Putting side weapons on the ship enables the use of far more efficient dual beam arrays, as well as side-firing torpedoes to capitalize on shield holes that you open up.

    On the whole I would expect a broadside battlecruiser to be an adept of "fire and maneuver", chugging along at high speed while firing on targets to the left and right simultaneously and to equal effect. I'm very excited to explore the tactical ramifications of such a ship. :)
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    kelorelkelorel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    In my opinion the delay of the Andorian ship is no real surprise. I saw this coming when there was word it was going to be released in January.

    The big problem here is not Cryptic, yes they had issues but if you look at it, the biggest problems started when Perfect World took over. We lost a large player base when Cryptic got bought and it was for the reasons we see today. Chinese overlords going for immediate results, aka lockboxes. Don't be surprised if Perfect World does release the Andorian ship to lock boxes.
    Why would they do this? Aside from not caring about players it would get them the most money. The Andorian ship is popular, and would benefit the most from a lockbox special. The Vulcan ship was released before the PWE took over, and the caitian carrier is not popular enough to warrant a lockbox.
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    As for the Andorian ship itself, I don't think it should be an Escort as much as a battle cruiser, aka a combat focused cruiser so it does not specialize in tanking, but not as good in combat as a defiant is. This would make it a little more true to the ship's design.

    And the Ambassador class... you wait, they're looking for a lockbox for that one too.
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    topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    kelorel wrote: »
    In my opinion the delay of the Andorian ship is no real surprise. I saw this coming when there was word it was going to be released in January.

    The big problem here is not Cryptic, yes they had issues but if you look at it, the biggest problems started when Perfect World took over. We lost a large player base when Cryptic got bought and it was for the reasons we see today. Chinese overlords going for immediate results, aka lockboxes. Don't be surprised if Perfect World does release the Andorian ship to lock boxes.
    Why would they do this? Aside from not caring about players it would get them the most money. The Andorian ship is popular, and would benefit the most from a lockbox special. The Vulcan ship was released before the PWE took over, and the caitian carrier is not popular enough to warrant a lockbox.
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    As for the Andorian ship itself, I don't think it should be an Escort as much as a battle cruiser, aka a combat focused cruiser so it does not specialize in tanking, but not as good in combat as a defiant is. This would make it a little more true to the ship's design.

    And the Ambassador class... you wait, they're looking for a lockbox for that one too.

    Nonsense. FEDERATION SHIPS DO NOT GO IN LOCKBOXES! Do you not listen? Or pay any attention at all?

    They have explicitly stated that we will have a new lock box ship AND the Andorian Escort.

    By your same (stupid) reasoning, the Vesta would also have been in a lockbox - given that it has been the most anticipated ship in this game for quite some time, do you remember how many you saw flying around on launch day? They were absolutely everywhere.

    We get it, you don't like PWE - doesn't mean you have to spout nonsense at the rest of us.
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    bumperthumperbumperthumper Member Posts: 513 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    olivia211 wrote: »
    All I know is a male Andorian ship will be shorter than its female counterpart.

    Ok, that made me laugh. Good reference.

    All I know is that I've been waiting to see an Andorian ship for quite a while now. Hope it actually comes out soon. I still can't really picture a beam boat as fitting, though.
    brigadooom wrote: »
    The andorian ship should have all tactical bridge stations and consoles, and no other bridge stations or consoles of any other type :P

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    momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Meh. Too many tactical ships. You got the temporal destroyer, the 1000-day destroyer, the Steamrunner, and now the Breen thingy. Science got the temporal science ship and the wildly anticipated Vesta. Cruisers got... ??

    I would love to see something new and different like:

    Turn rate = 7
    Hull = 42K / Shields = *1.1 (fleet cruiser level)
    4/4 weapons, broadside configuration
    4 tac consoles, 4 eng, 2 science
    LTC tactical
    LTC engineer
    LTC engineer
    LT science
    EN universal
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    warrenhammandwarrenhammand Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Fixing the mess of Season 7, also with the Anniversary coming in February they have to be ready for it instead of delaying it.

    Whatever is planned for the 3rd Anniversary CANNOT be delayed, a C-Store ship can and perhaps because its getting a unique bridge it means until that gets into rotation it have to wait.

    And the Andorian ship is a Escort.

    Except it's been 3 years.
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    As long as it looks something like this I'm happy.



    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Andorian_battle_cruiser?file=Kumari_bridge.jpg

    Now I'm going to ask cause well it's going to be asked anyway.

    Vulcan and Atrox bridge will they ever make one now since the blue guys are getting one.

    I always imagined the carrier having a huge CIC.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    topset wrote: »
    Nonsense. FEDERATION SHIPS DO NOT GO IN LOCKBOXES! Do you not listen? Or pay any attention at all?

    The Wells class is a Federation ship and it is a lockbox ship so it should be Federation ships that belong in the early 25th Century do not go in lockboxes.
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    darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yes, it's been three years. It's not like we haven't had other ships since then to tide us over. People, if you get heart-broken about a make-believe ship not being released in a make-believe game then you seriously need to look at yourselves.
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