Okay. I'm going to be away from a computer several key days, to where going the free route might be tricky.
But here's what would sell me on the Breen ship.
- Benefits from the Jem'Hadar set bonus like the bug and the Galor do.
- Polaron quad cannons, usable on other ships.
I can't overestimate the importance for me on any new ship of having things I can use on other ships. Even better stats aren't enough to sway me because I have ships I like... but having something I can use on an existing ship is the bait that will get me to bite the hook.
And finally, being tradeable. Because I'd like to save one for when I can get a Breen XO promoted to Captain.
- Benefits from the Jem'Hadar set bonus like the bug and the Galor do.
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Why on earth the Jem'Hadar Set when there is a Breen Set too?
And please, oh please dont make it tradeable.
I understand the need for trading when it comes to "Luck" Items, but the Breen Ship is pure work over time.
There would be thousand and thousands of them in the exchange if it would be tradeable because there are a lot of people with a lot of 2nd, 3rd... chars out there.
what hook are you talking about? it is for free...25 days doing a less than 5 minute daily isn't something i consider an effort at all.
AND if you miss more than 10 days during the event you are able to buy the remaining resource with lobi crystals...
myself i have some lobis still dorment on a few toons, so i won't even need to do all 25 days.
i can understand that someone who planed already a 14 day skiing trip at a cabin with no WiFi will miss out on the ship, but let's be honest: "C?est la vie!"
And even then you got the Lobi option.
Isn't the Jem bonus Victory for Life bugged? Like for a year now or whatever.
And I agree with the breen ship set over Jem bit. If it's not worth using on a breen ship then it's worthless and you might as well drop it. I have put mine to "good" use however, so I'll simply switch that setup to this breen ship and call it a day, although I feel all ship set bonuses should have a 7.6% treatment with certain weapons to promote going with canon and leave the torp boost to KHG.
Isn't the Jem bonus Victory for Life bugged? Like for a year now or whatever.
And I agree with the breen ship set over Jem bit. If it's not worth using on a breen ship then it's worthless and you might as well drop it. I have put mine to "good" use however, so I'll simply switch that setup to this breen ship and call it a day, although I feel all ship set bonuses should have a 7.6% treatment with certain weapons to promote going with canon and leave the torp boost to KHG.
I wouldn't say that the Breen set is worthless. I use it on my Galor with the Breen rapid fire transphasic Torpedo and the Breen Transphasic Cluster Torpedo to quite deadly effect. I have noticed that the Cluster Torpedo crits quite often with this set.
My only question is why anyone needs to "sell" this ship to people.
Sure, it would be nice if it got some bonus from the J'em Set. Sure it would be nice if it had some awesome weapon like quad cannons or something.
BUT ... why do they need to "sell" anyone on something they are giving away for free ?
Sure, it could be a better ship, but I don't expect them to have to "sell" me on it. They are GIVING it to me.
Now personally I think it's an ugly piece of space junk, and will never fly it, except maybe once to test it out and say "OOOO" and "AAAA". But past that, I don't see myself ever flying it.
But it is a good ship. With decent stats, and Boff layout.
So, I guess in conclusion, I ask if someone walks up to you and says "Here, this is a free thing", is your immediate response "Why would I want your free thing? Maybe you'd better sell me on why I should want this thing you are GIVING to me for FREE. You know, really sell it, make me understand why I want it."
Now personally I think it's an ugly piece of space junk, and will never fly it, except maybe once to test it out and say "OOOO" and "AAAA". But past that, I don't see myself ever flying it.
But it is a good ship. With decent stats, and Boff layout.
Finally a proper use for those Latinum Holo-Emitters
Why on earth the Jem'Hadar Set when there is a Breen Set too?
The Frozen set is an Anti-Breen set, it's designed to fight against Breen. So bad synergy.
The Jem set however gives bonus to Dominion ships, that the Chel Grett once was, just like the Galor.
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Finally a proper use for those Latinum Holo-Emitters
To hide the ugly ship? I agree.
The Sar Theln Warship looks better, but it should be built like a flight-deck cruiser.
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That Breen ship doesn't need any additional sales pitch, it has the perfect PvE BO layout for an escort and a near perfect console layout. I was half hoping the ship was going to suck so I didn't have to log on and so some silly TRIBBLE race for the next month... Guess not.
My only question is why anyone needs to "sell" this ship to people.
Sure, it would be nice if it got some bonus from the J'em Set. Sure it would be nice if it had some awesome weapon like quad cannons or something.
BUT ... why do they need to "sell" anyone on something they are giving away for free ?
Sure, it could be a better ship, but I don't expect them to have to "sell" me on it. They are GIVING it to me.
Now personally I think it's an ugly piece of space junk, and will never fly it, except maybe once to test it out and say "OOOO" and "AAAA". But past that, I don't see myself ever flying it.
But it is a good ship. With decent stats, and Boff layout.
So, I guess in conclusion, I ask if someone walks up to you and says "Here, this is a free thing", is your immediate response "Why would I want your free thing? Maybe you'd better sell me on why I should want this thing you are GIVING to me for FREE. You know, really sell it, make me understand why I want it."
... Because it's Free !
Go buy yourself a copy of Miser's Delight in the lobby store. Review it, and then we'll talk tomorrow morning.
That Breen ship doesn't need any additional sales pitch, it has the perfect PvE BO layout for an escort and a near perfect console layout. I was half hoping the ship was going to suck so I didn't have to log on and so some silly TRIBBLE race for the next month... Guess not.
These things are subjective. I couldn't disagree more with that assessment of it. But I will be running the race just for the fun of that. Weird world, ain't it?
I'll sell you some weapons from New Romulus. Never fired, only dropped once.
These things are subjective. I couldn't disagree more with that assessment of it. But I will be running the race just for the fun of that. Weird world, ain't it?
Not really, game mechanics are not subjective, and from the perspective of a optimal DPS/Survivability/Control (Grav well) layout, this ship is an extremely good battlecruiser/escort.
The only other layout that might be superior is a Lt Cmdr Engineer slot with (2x) Aux to Battery and Technician doffs. I'm sure we'll see that layout in the near future.
Any layout with cannons and a Cmdr & LT tac BO layout is probably going to be a good ship (ie Temporal Destroyer). It's just the right amount of slots to maximize cannons without waste, and pure cannon builds simply outperform anything else.
Your desire of how you may like your ships to fly is subjective, but when it comes down to number crunching, not so much.
The Frozen set is an Anti-Breen set, it's designed to fight against Breen. So bad synergy.
Other than the fact that it comes from the Deferi missions what makes you say this?
The set is named the 'Breen Absolute Zero' set.
The deflector buffs the Flow Capacitors skill which will boost the Breen Energy Syphon.
The engines are "supercooled", and are efficient at low power levels because they have "superconducting manifolds" which is another reference to the coldness.
The Set 2 bonus is Superconducting Phase Channels, which is not only another reference to cold but buffs transphasic torpedos, (and ironically the two Breen weapons are both Transphasic Torpedos)
The set 3 bonus is a Breen Energy Syphon.
The only thing that this set does to defend agains the Breen is the shield having a 20% resist to Polaron weapons, and this could just as be an Anti-Jem'Hadar shield and not anti-Breen.
The set makes more references to the fact that the Breen live in a very cold climate and boosts most of the thing that the Breen themselves use... it would make sense for this set to have a bonus for the Chel Grett...
Since this is a free ship, and the 'daily' is supposed to only take a few minutes. . .I might actually get this ship for all three of my toons (which are all KDF, I'm proud to say). I seriously like those stats, because it basically combines a flexible cruiser setup with a 13 degree turnrate. That's enough for me, for a free ship that has a unique look and feel to it. That console looks interesting, too.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
Since this is a free ship, and the 'daily' is supposed to only take a few minutes. . .I might actually get this ship for all three of my toons (which are all KDF, I'm proud to say). I seriously like those stats, because it basically combines a flexible cruiser setup with a 13 degree turnrate. That's enough for me, for a free ship that has a unique look and feel to it. That console looks interesting, too.
I:rolleyes:f everyone gets this; is it still unique?
Ya know.. i saw this post awhile back. And i chose to ignore it. But someone had to go dig it out and bring it back to the first page. So i decided ill respond to it now.
NOONE NEEDS OR CARES TO SELL YOU ANYTHING! IF YA DONT LIKE IT
> THERES THE DOOR!:eek:
Yeah, all I need to "sell" me on the ship is that it's free. Which means I can actually move my characters out of their lv40 ships without having to pay $25. Even though it's ugly. So, yeah. :P
I understand the need for trading when it comes to "Luck" Items, but the Breen Ship is pure work over time.
Accountbound yes, but tradeable hell no.
I'm with Titus on this.
In regards to the Bridge, I think it should have one, even if basic or a redress of an alien bridge. We should have got something with it. I am hoping that, further down the line they release a Breen Bridge (for those that have the ship) and also a way to get Mk XII Breen Space Gear.
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Why on earth the Jem'Hadar Set when there is a Breen Set too?
And please, oh please dont make it tradeable.
I understand the need for trading when it comes to "Luck" Items, but the Breen Ship is pure work over time.
There would be thousand and thousands of them in the exchange if it would be tradeable because there are a lot of people with a lot of 2nd, 3rd... chars out there.
Accountbound yes, but tradeable hell no.
AND if you miss more than 10 days during the event you are able to buy the remaining resource with lobi crystals...
myself i have some lobis still dorment on a few toons, so i won't even need to do all 25 days.
i can understand that someone who planed already a 14 day skiing trip at a cabin with no WiFi will miss out on the ship, but let's be honest: "C?est la vie!"
And even then you got the Lobi option.
PS: would a unique bridge convince you?
No point in even going there seeing as there's No unique bridge! But hey... It's a FREE ship!
And I agree with the breen ship set over Jem bit. If it's not worth using on a breen ship then it's worthless and you might as well drop it. I have put mine to "good" use however, so I'll simply switch that setup to this breen ship and call it a day, although I feel all ship set bonuses should have a 7.6% treatment with certain weapons to promote going with canon and leave the torp boost to KHG.
I wouldn't say that the Breen set is worthless. I use it on my Galor with the Breen rapid fire transphasic Torpedo and the Breen Transphasic Cluster Torpedo to quite deadly effect. I have noticed that the Cluster Torpedo crits quite often with this set.
Sure, it would be nice if it got some bonus from the J'em Set. Sure it would be nice if it had some awesome weapon like quad cannons or something.
BUT ... why do they need to "sell" anyone on something they are giving away for free ?
Sure, it could be a better ship, but I don't expect them to have to "sell" me on it. They are GIVING it to me.
Now personally I think it's an ugly piece of space junk, and will never fly it, except maybe once to test it out and say "OOOO" and "AAAA". But past that, I don't see myself ever flying it.
But it is a good ship. With decent stats, and Boff layout.
So, I guess in conclusion, I ask if someone walks up to you and says "Here, this is a free thing", is your immediate response "Why would I want your free thing? Maybe you'd better sell me on why I should want this thing you are GIVING to me for FREE. You know, really sell it, make me understand why I want it."
... Because it's Free !
Finally a proper use for those Latinum Holo-Emitters
The Frozen set is an Anti-Breen set, it's designed to fight against Breen. So bad synergy.
The Jem set however gives bonus to Dominion ships, that the Chel Grett once was, just like the Galor.
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To hide the ugly ship? I agree.
The Sar Theln Warship looks better, but it should be built like a flight-deck cruiser.
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These alien ships should be account bound, and a special Playable Character unlock to match to make them more valuable.
Can't believe I hadn't thought of that
Go buy yourself a copy of Miser's Delight in the lobby store. Review it, and then we'll talk tomorrow morning.
These things are subjective. I couldn't disagree more with that assessment of it. But I will be running the race just for the fun of that. Weird world, ain't it?
But I'm going to see if I can actually do the race 25 times in twenty-five days.
I may bring out a TAC toon I haven't used in ages to get it.
My SCI toon isn't interested.
Not really, game mechanics are not subjective, and from the perspective of a optimal DPS/Survivability/Control (Grav well) layout, this ship is an extremely good battlecruiser/escort.
The only other layout that might be superior is a Lt Cmdr Engineer slot with (2x) Aux to Battery and Technician doffs. I'm sure we'll see that layout in the near future.
Any layout with cannons and a Cmdr & LT tac BO layout is probably going to be a good ship (ie Temporal Destroyer). It's just the right amount of slots to maximize cannons without waste, and pure cannon builds simply outperform anything else.
Your desire of how you may like your ships to fly is subjective, but when it comes down to number crunching, not so much.
Boffs: 2 4 2 3 1
And 10 consoles also nice.
Why not.
Other than the fact that it comes from the Deferi missions what makes you say this?
The set is named the 'Breen Absolute Zero' set.
The deflector buffs the Flow Capacitors skill which will boost the Breen Energy Syphon.
The engines are "supercooled", and are efficient at low power levels because they have "superconducting manifolds" which is another reference to the coldness.
The Set 2 bonus is Superconducting Phase Channels, which is not only another reference to cold but buffs transphasic torpedos, (and ironically the two Breen weapons are both Transphasic Torpedos)
The set 3 bonus is a Breen Energy Syphon.
The only thing that this set does to defend agains the Breen is the shield having a 20% resist to Polaron weapons, and this could just as be an Anti-Jem'Hadar shield and not anti-Breen.
The set makes more references to the fact that the Breen live in a very cold climate and boosts most of the thing that the Breen themselves use... it would make sense for this set to have a bonus for the Chel Grett...
That pretty much confirms for you that calling it 'perfect' is subjective. Whatever, it's a silly point of contention. I'm glad you like it.
Its not a True Breen without any Sled attachments.
On the one in ten billion chance this happens for you, you have to name it Rosebud.
I:rolleyes:f everyone gets this; is it still unique?
Ya know.. i saw this post awhile back. And i chose to ignore it. But someone had to go dig it out and bring it back to the first page. So i decided ill respond to it now.
NOONE NEEDS OR CARES TO SELL YOU ANYTHING! IF YA DONT LIKE IT
> THERES THE DOOR!:eek:
In regards to the Bridge, I think it should have one, even if basic or a redress of an alien bridge. We should have got something with it. I am hoping that, further down the line they release a Breen Bridge (for those that have the ship) and also a way to get Mk XII Breen Space Gear.