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No Win Scenarion Fed side - Beaten

mikt1mikt1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
12/14/2012 NWS Fed side was beaten.
Bellow is the log piece:

[5:43] [System] [CombatAlert] Captain, our forward shield is down!
[5:43] [System] [CombatAlert] Captain, our hull is at 75%!
[5:43] [System] [CombatAlert] Captain, our starboard shield is down!
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 2 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 54 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 48 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 96 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 82 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 173 Fleet Marks
[5:43] [NPC] Holodeck Message: The Civilian Transport has been secured. Ending simulation.
[5:43] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Atheonyirh@Atheonyirh does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[5:43] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Alpha Fluffy@transpetaflops does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[5:43] [System] [ItemReceived] You received a new title choice: Kirk's Protege
[5:43] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Fast Fingers@The_Epsilonian does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[5:43] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Raw@mik1 does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[5:43] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Lenne@V_Silverwings does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 100 Expertise
[5:43] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 88 Expertise
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  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    3 separate fraps videos saved (won't make the same mistake I did with the KDF run). Several screenshots taken and got more information for the stowiki guide.
  • therealfluffytherealfluffy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
  • echodarksidedechodarksided Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Congratulations all.

    Silverwings I look forward to seeing the video! Post a link when you get it uploaded.
  • mjaymor78mjaymor78 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Nice Job, you know one of these days I'll have to try No Win
    Join Date: Dec 2009
  • bolter25bolter25 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Congratulations to you and your group for the achievement. Wear your title (Kirk's protege) with pride ! :)
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    you are now on accademic suspension and will not graduate the accademy
    Live long and Prosper
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited December 2012
    Congratulations! You are now all suspended because you must have cheated :eek:

    :P JK

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • creamyzombiecreamyzombie Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Congratulations too all involved!
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Congratulatons. :)
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Let the W00tage commence!

    Has anyone else ever won that accolade before?
    My views may not represent those of Cryptic Studios or Perfect World Entertainment. You can file a "forums and website" support ticket here
    Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
  • mikt1mikt1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Circle complete
    KDF NWS - check
    FED NWS - check
    :D
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    :eek:

    Way to go guys! That's fantastic!!!

    :cool:

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    mjaymor78 wrote: »
    Nice Job, you know one of these days I'll have to try No Win
    i should be reay to star running shortly when hit tier 5 9k from tier 4
    great now they will nerf it
  • thegozerthegozer Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well done :)
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Congratulations! You are now all suspended because you must have cheated :eek:

    :P JK

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
    it was bound to happen with reputation added and it should happen with a good TEAM you just get so good over time
  • proteus22proteus22 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    yes you all chrated and are on academic suspension but if we have an interplanetary crisis dcomes up you will each be given command of brand new flagships congratulations.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2012
    Congrats guys!
    sean2448 wrote: »
    it was bound to happen with reputation added and it should happen with a good TEAM you just get so good over time

    First time it happened was only a few days after the mission went live, long before the rep system. :)
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Congrats guys!



    First time it happened was only a few days after the mission went live, long before the rep system. :)

    But those times likely involved the BoFF bug/exploit.
  • mikt1mikt1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    KDF was beatable since it was released, we just needed practice.
    Fed was a pain cose the lack of acetons.

    But now(after we beat it) i can safely say, that KDF is a walk in the park compared to FED with a strong team.

    Kirk's Protege
  • wesleycrasherwesleycrasher Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    And at only ~500 attempts!
    All the toys you can't afford.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    mikt1 wrote: »
    Circle complete
    KDF NWS - check
    FED NWS - check
    :D

    You're missing one!

    RSE NWS - Still waiting :(

    p.s. Great Job Folks! Grats to both faction teams! :)
  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Oh Brandon I'm not sure what to be more shocked about, that you believed we cheated or that you believe some parts of STO aren't "working as intended" :rolleyes: ;).

    Both Fed and KDF NWS complete now for me too and having done dozens more runs we've developed better/quicker ways to get to wave 10 at least but also beat wave 10. One of our biggest issues was 'wave 9'ing' - to rush 9 so fast we end up on wave 10 with everything on cooldown. Now we've got a virtually 100% perfected way to control wave 7 and 9 thus increasing our chances of beating wave 10.

    All of our information will be published on stowiki and after we've given priority to those that have helped our group we'll open up our private group channel to the wider community.
  • romuzariiromuzarii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Oh Brandon I'm not sure what to be more shocked about, that you believed we cheated or that you believe some parts of STO aren't "working as intended" :rolleyes: ;).

    Both Fed and KDF NWS complete now for me too and having done dozens more runs we've developed better/quicker ways to get to wave 10 at least but also beat wave 10. One of our biggest issues was 'wave 9'ing' - to rush 9 so fast we end up on wave 10 with everything on cooldown. Now we've got a virtually 100% perfected way to control wave 7 and 9 thus increasing our chances of beating wave 10.

    All of our information will be published on stowiki and after we've given priority to those that have helped our group we'll open up our private group channel to the wider community.
    Seems like an awful lot of trouble for pretty much nothing. For all the trouble the people whom beat this NWS business went through you'd think there would have to be some I Win gear or something at the end of the finish line. As it stands, there's a title up for grabs. While a pretty braggy title, it's still just a title. And some fleet marks. There should be a nifty uni console or something to motivate people to work through it. STO needs more rewards for hardcore players. This is an opportunity to reward hardcore players in a casually heavy driven MMO. I suggest Cryptic take it.
  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    While I'd welcome any thing from Cryptic to the joke statue's in First City or a tribble to maybe a more acceptable a trophy (some fluff that won't affect the gameplay) I really don't expect them to.

    I speak personally when I say I set out to beat nws because;
    I seek the toughest challenges
    Competing to be the first or one of at least to beat it on holodeck
    Putting together and leading an awesome group of guys and working together
    Accolades!!
    And of course I don't believe in a no win scenario ;).


    Really unless someone has the title of people always on or click on me/read this thread they won't know I beat it. I beat nws for myself.

    P.S. depending in how quick and easy the team makes it they could rack up insane amounts of fleet marks, 173 (inc fleet mark boost) for wave 10 alone and overall 360+fm in 30m if you really wanted to be conservative about it but Luke STFs a really good team and be closer to 20m.
  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Finally got around to uploading the complete No Win Scenario run - Federation (been busy trying to finish off the guide so I can make it public and people can use it).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0CD8CMWp6s&feature=youtu.be

    I decided not to include music for various reasons so feel free to listen to your own music.

    I'll look at adding annotations, chapters etc but otherwise this is the finished product, enjoy :).
  • liquidraven26liquidraven26 Member Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Finally got around to uploading the complete No Win Scenario run - Federation (been busy trying to finish off the guide so I can make it public and people can use it).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0CD8CMWp6s&feature=youtu.be

    I decided not to include music for various reasons so feel free to listen to your own music.

    I'll look at adding annotations, chapters etc but otherwise this is the finished product, enjoy :).


    Great Video - I did learn a lot-

    Any chance of a guide or just notes in general?
  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    http://www.stowiki.org/User:V_Silverwings

    It's a final draft that pretty much done just checking over for typos and rephrase to make it clearer and simpler. It's more comprehensive than the video as by this time the team of 5 knew nws inside out leading to quicker runs, and less time for things to go wrong. Should be on the nws walkthrough page properly in the coming week or so when I'm happy it's as good as it can be.
  • deusemperordeusemperor Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Thank you for your hard work!

    Information has already allowed my team to almost beat wave 9. Though its harder for us because cryptic nerfed the tier 4 passive skill so its 10.5 times weaker than what it was. :mad: So we got our work cut out for us.

    NWS should award a 1000 zen :D

    Right now I'm figuring that my team will be able to do it once we get tier 5 unlocked on rep. Adapated maco sets wit 25% torp damage and increased aux power will help. :D

    Before Christmas I've never been able to get past wave 7. Thx!
  • vsilverwings1vsilverwings1 Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It would be awesome to hear other tales of how people have were getting on before reading the guide and after, it shows it works :D.

    I saw a team get 8 last night then 9 so I'm guessing that wasn't your group but hey getting beyond 7 is an achievement in itself so congrats to your team.

    The adapted MACO would be nice for 25% projectile damage although at the time I didn't have it. I think I'd prefer to use the Omega Force though for additional shield strip and more tactical deflector. Good luck in your venture, Cryptic's yet to buff nws :).
  • vahdovahdo Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hey gratz for beating it! :)

    Silverwings, can I ask something about your Mobius build in the STOwiki guide? is there a reason for using Antiproton Turrets as aft weapons, rather then Plasma Turrets?
    Join Date: December 2009
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