On stardate 66352.2, the House of Kobayashi, together with two other brave Klingon warriors, finally beat the No-Win Scenario. Afterwards we went to New Romulus and celebrated with our new titles by the waterfall.
http://i.imgur.com/JyfSY.jpg
I'd like to extend my thanks to YetAnotherCaptain, Dukedom, mik1 and especially V_Silverwings. Without Silver's methodical survey of the mission and his constant nagging at the rest of us over the past couple of months, this would never had happened.
And to Gozer I just have one thing to say: UP YOURS!
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[10:03] [System] [CombatAlert] Captain, our enemy's facing shields are down!
[10:03] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 116 Expertise
[10:03] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 100 Expertise
[10:03] [NPC] Holodeck Message: The Civilian Transport has been secured. Ending simulation.
[10:03] [System] [ItemReceived] You received a new title choice: Kirk's Protege
[10:03] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] K'Fluffy@transpetaflops does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[10:03] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Dark Digits@YetAnotherCaptain does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[10:03] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Neisa@Dukedom does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[10:03] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] Waka@mik1 does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[10:03] [System] [GameplayAnnounce] HaDI'baH tIq@V_Silverwings does not believe in a "No-Win Scenario".
[10:03] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 100 Expertise
[10:03] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 86 Expertise
[10:03] [System] [NumericReceived] You received 173 Fleet Marks
Well, grats nonetheless.
From the moment people started achieving in it (found out later using the foundry) I saw it was time to put a team together with the intention to beat it.
With the help of the realelitenws team, I put together a comprehensive goggledoc charting all the waves, and builds/tactics etc, what was working for us and what wasn't. After finding out about the next wave we prepared for it and beat it to reach the next one until we got stuck at 10. After what felt like several tries, sometimes being so very close, we've finally nailed it, though the fed side we're still falling short on wave 10.
I'd personally like to take the chance to thank not only the other 4 on the team listed above but also the others who contributed on previous runs (sadly they have yet to get the official credit but we'll be running nws again to try and rectify that;
@V_Silverwings (myself, duh)
@transpetaflops
@mik1
@YetAnotherCaptain/@The_Epsilonian
@Dukedom
@PhyrexianHero
@Atheonyirh
@Azurian
@johntherussian
@Pinoir
@Shimmerless
@The_Tholos
@Void-VectorX
(think that's everyone apologises if I missed anyone off I double and triple checked).
Without their contributions, efforts and patience (with me especially) none of us would have been able to achieve what the 5 of us have when we did (and ther was competition to see who'd beat it first so the pressure was on).
As for how we beat it we'll share all in the near future when time allows us and I'll see if we can find the time to write a guide for stowiki.
Upon killing all the ships in wave 10 the event just ends like the STFs do, except for the splashing of achievements across the server :P
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/Silverwings100/STO%20public/GameClient2012-11-1921-03-27-23a.jpg
I did fraps the thing but I perma deleted the file by accident and cannot recover the data so I'll have to fraps the next run.
I wonder if Cryptic will honour our achievement:P? Maybe statues in the Great Hall...(just saying ).
Congrats to the rest of you though.
Oh, and yeah, congrats on beating the NWS.
Congratulations!
(UFP) Ragnar
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
I'd love to see what configuration of ships with what equipment you ran. I'm sure everyone reading this thread is, actually
Great work!
I ran:
Krenn Temporal Destroyer.
Aceton Assimilator, Tipler Cylinder + Mannheim Device, the other temporal set.
Oh well there's always next time:D and @pinoir got his wave 9 accolade.
I was flying a hegta bop though I've got to wave 10 with the bop retrofit and karfi each having their pros and cons and really any one of those ships could have done it.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
I don't doubt that this current bug had something to do with their success.
Yeah... I'm not going to count this as a victory until they remove the voldemort exploit. (No offence, I know people dont want to reveal their powertray layout, but I cant make up my mind due to it being hidden in the picture).
I apologise for doubting that people can beat it, this bug has me suspecting people of doing bad things though.
Kirk hated Klingons.
And Klingons respected Kirk.
Sorry, but we been getting to Wave 10 for a long time now, same with our competitors, all without any need for cheats.
I know Silver sometimes recorded the Wave 10 attempts, and didn't ask him if he did this time. But if he did, it will reveal if they cheated or not.
Non the less, we are working on the NWS for more than 3 months.
We have done our homework and we have an extensive documentation on everything that each wave throws @ us.
Up until wave 10 everything is clear to us, and we can get there on both sides in a way for most would look like a walk in the park. We did alot of practice and only documenting wave 10 to the pixel took us more than a month.
We beat it on KDF side, not bcs of some bug, this was a team effort, coordination, months of trial and error, and ofc luck. Also bcs KDF has a special item that feds don't have, improved our chances of success.
We still have to achieve it on FED side, after which we will disclose to the public our full documentation... but until then, we want to be the 1st to beat it on FED side too.
Thank you to all that appreciated our efforts, and to the trolls, for making us popular
Like I said before, no offence to you guys. Either way congrats, it would be cool if the first group of people who beat NWS got a front page mention on the STO website :P
The biggest problem was the bioneurals killing us and sometimes lack of dps coming out of wave 10 but we came up with an ingenious way of dealing with them and it was a matter of practise, practise, practise removing any chance of slipping up. In this case we did it but that's not any indictation we'll beat it consistently every time.
It's to be expected when we did beat it people would jump to exploits and cheats so it's no surprise but actually when we do publish our methods you'll find that actually nws is beatable without the use of exploits.
Sadly I've lost the fraps showing our attempt because I saved the wrong file (and I've tried several recovery softwares none of which could save such a massive file). I'll be sure to fraps other runs and all going well we can show proof that nws is beatable without exploits. The other option is to wait until Cryptic fix all benefitical bugs and then roll again.
Thats a real win. Unless this exploit is gone and pay2win is used, i dont see it as a win, sorry.
A no pay2win console team made fed to wave 10 couple of times, a full team of bots without using p2w consoles got to mid wave 9.
vids and guides and stuff
[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
Congratulations on your team effort. And thanks for sharing it. :cool:
/10char
might be working as intended