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Epohhs. Little Martian doggies with fuzzy antennas with all of the appeal of a Paris Hilton chihuahua blinged in a handbag. How "precious".
KDF players have been asking for a meaningful pet like a targ and a targ breeding program for a long while. They have access to the Tribble research program which makes no sense as Tribbles are detested by Klingons and outlawed in KDF space.
But what do we get instead of Targs? Epohhs? Why? This makes little real sense.
Please develop Targs as a combat pet and a Handler Kit for KDF only.
KDF players have been asking for a meaningful pet like a targ and a targ breeding program for a long while. They have access to the Tribble research program which makes no sense as Tribbles are detested by Klingons and outlawed in KDF space.
But what do we get instead of Targs? Epohhs? Why? This makes little real sense.
Please develop Targs as a combat pet and a Handler Kit for KDF only.
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They're Womulan Wabbits...
Be ver-wey, ver-wey carful... It's Wabbit Season.
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I do wish that the pet was less... regular. The epohhs do look like a cat/dog hybrid. I'd like things that are less like animals found on earth. A tripedal pet, a winged quadruped, stuff like that. Still, the pet construction process is a step in the right direction.
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name one episode where the captins have pets that follow them around on missions and or fight.
get this TRIBBLE out of star trek.
this is just one more reason why cryptic should never have got its hands on the IP
Warrigals look pretty close, though I dunno if they're actually supposed to be the same thing.
That or a jackal mastiff, like the Rura Penthe warden in ST-VI.
They seem like the more, dare I say it, badass of the Klingon "pets" seen on screen. I was never sold on targs on account of them utterly failing to look like anything other than the pigs in wigs used to film them (on TNG at least, IIRC they were bad CGI on ENT).
Can't even remember the Epohhs, and the memory alpha wiki doesn't have an entry. I'm guessing that was maybe a one-off background critter somewhere? Like maybe some TOS ambassador's fashion accessory pet, or something some kids were seen playing with on TNG one time, or something?
This. I came back to check out what the new patches brought to the game and honestly, afte reading the forums I don't want to log in at all. STO has nothing to do with Star Trek for a long while now, but now it seems it get's even more manga-style generic sci-fi TRIBBLE on the way.
Never faced a wild boar I guess?
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He just ate cheese though
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I am in full support of a Targ breeding program, it'd be nice to have targ pups grow to full size and be able to use them in combat, especially since it would fit well with Klingon canon. No doubt that'll never happen though as the Klingons are like the disfigured step child, whom Cryptic barley acknowledge, let alone care for.
Or Cryptic does what they should have done from the beginning: Ditch the Star Trek license and create their own confusing sci-fi franchise, something they obviously wanted from the beginning...
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Epohhs exist only here and probably cater to PWEs silly little manga East Asia style. They have absolutely NO place in Trek yet development time was put into them instead of targ content that was asked for.
For the Fed/KDF balance issue, well, so what? The Fed side gets tribbles and their advantages and maybe mugatos. KDF gets targs. Problem solved. It isn't all about this fictitious myth of "fair play" called balance. That is arbitrary game rules. Such arbitrary concerns damage MMO immersion.
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Meh it would be dead in a week.
Lets face it - if STO was some generic sci-fi setting, not Star Trek, it would be dead in S6, not to mention S7
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Bit of a nitpick, but, targs never showed up in any of the movies. There's a mastiff in ST-VI and a... thing... which might be a warrigal in ST-III. Targs got mentions in passing since TOS, but the first time one was ever actually shown was in TNG. Regardlee, you're right that they are canon.
Back on topic, targ breeding, or at the very least targ combat pets do make sense. They're canon, they're already fielded by Klingon NPC groups encountered as enemies by Fed players, and we've got that targ breeder already conspicuously set up across from the crafting are on Qo'Nos.
...Personally, I feel that war targs should be an anachronism that stopped being used by the Klingon military before TNG even. Star Trek has a big problem with aggressively grandfathering and retconning stuff across the franchise timeline, creating a statis-quo effect where for centuries nothing actually changes or advances beyond the superficial. Battle targs are one of those things that shouldn't exist beyond the ENT era (and transporters shouldn't exist before TOS, "aztec paneling" shouldn't exist before TMP, etc). But that's just my opinion, and this is an MMO, so it's understandable that lots of compromises have to be made.
In regards to balance, I'd actually prefer that come in a form other than just giving Feds an equivalent pet. Give them a combat ability Klinks can't get, or a craftable weapon class Klinks can't use. Balance things out in a way that creates tactical complexity, not in a ham-fistedly simple force-against-force way.
If you really had to just give Feds some kind of equivalent combat pets, I'd suggest exocomps. That way gives a little bit of tactical trade-off balance (ranged vs. melee), and is more fitting with canon styling than Feds fielding war animals. The combat drones are arguably already similar, but there's a lot you could do with AI, weapons loadout, etc to distinguish them.
Data had a pet cat that showed up fairly regularly as well. Sure, it was never involved in fighting the Borg, but seeing as the Epohhs don't fight either, I don't see the problem...
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I'm fairly sure Captain Krueg's pet in "the Search for Spock" was a targ. Once again, it boils down to lack of development by previous Star Trek writers during and after TOS and beyond. The original Klingons were unexplained in most aspects, never seriously developed as a people with their own drives and interests until TNG. it is also likely the creature on Rurapenthe was another film makers view of a targ. We really don't know and it isn't explained.
I agree, I don't want a pet war either. Fed side is already much more developed so IMO tribbles are enough. Make the KDF targ a combat pet that does the same as the NPC Targ Handler spawns and ban KDF from being able to use or equip all tribbles and I would say it is balanced.
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It was referred to as a "monster dog" in the script and during production. Looking at Memory Alpha, it appears that the first reference to a "targ" was in TNG. The films are quasi-counted on the notion that the "monster dog" and mastiff might be breeds of targ, but IMO that's BS: they're obviously physically not just completely different species, but different family. It'd be like assuming that real world dogs and cats were breeds of pig, because, y'know, humans keep both a domesticated animals.
I've never really understood the need to consolidate and conceptually inbreed overlapping elements that don't conflict with each other. It reduces realistic variety and makes the universe in question feel smaller and more stagnant . Star Wars does this a lot too.
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Cool. We've got lots of alien world covered with their own flora, but no fauna. Reasons why are obvious: fauna take more dev time and system resources. It's nice to have some more around, so this is welcome. Backstory seems a bit cutesy-wutesy, but it's a big damn galaxy crammed to the ears with life, so it's not really unlikely, statistically, that something like that would exist somewhere.
As pets:
Sure, why not? Data kept a cat, Archer had a beagle, doesn't seem unlikely that there weren't other offscreen pets around, at lest in TNG era (on earlier ships it seems more likely it would be a single unofficial "ships mascot" sort of deal, but later ones were more... luxurious). Seems an unlikely sort of pet for a Klingon, but how easy is it to imagine Elaan of Troyius carrying around a little Paris Hilton dog?
As original creations:
Saw them running around on New Romulus. Couldn't make out much other than a ball of fur and three green eyes. They made me think of bugs for some reason, rather than dogs or cats. Seems okay, don't really see the alleged anime/asian connection. I have no problem with Cryptic adding new stuff to the Star Trek universe on principle. Given all the different worlds and freedoms in the game (and the need to add more with time). the game would get pretty samey if they were limited to only preexisting materials. Not to mention the problems of so many different worlds all across the galaxy, established and "new" alike, all conspicuously sharing the same "native" flora and fauna. Open world means they pretty much have to be free to create original stuff in order to properly flesh things out.
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that would be nice. i would love a targ combat pet and a pet slot next to devices.
ever since i came to play this game, its always puzzles me why do they keep
adding non combat pets, they are useless.
would be nice for non combat pets to go pick up loot, make them useful.
Don't take every word literally. Of course someone had pets in Star Trek, that doesn't mean that if we think about Star Trek the first thing tht comes to mind are manga-esque cuty pets following the captain wherever he goes. The whole pet stuff the way it is implemented into the game doesn't make any sense, even the tribble breeding is utter nonsense even though tribbles where seen in Star Trek. It is not that hard to understand what he intended to say with his statement...
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