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All STF needed was a new function in item roll windows, STFS are now a joke.
randell1
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As far as the new STF changes now as a vet player they are a bit of a joke. I used to love doing them with fleet mates trying to get their gear and sometimes getting a nice dil reward for myself if i got the big drop.
All they had to do was add another function inside of the map mission when items dropped and everyone had to roll on them why not of added another tab that would have allowed you to pass your roll onto another person on the team to increase there chance of getting the item. As far as personnel drops items, add a fuction that would move the item into a team item roll window. I know a many of my mates would have been happy to pass items on to other teammates that worked just as hard in the STF mission.
As far as the 8000 dil daily before the STF change with luck i could have this done in Two STF mission 2200 + drops to be exchanged into dil which i did quite often so dont understands Daniels S commends that this change would make getting dil easier lol. Just think system was better before and a lot less work had to go into changing it to this mess that it is now when a little fuction tab tweak is all it needed.
All they had to do was add another function inside of the map mission when items dropped and everyone had to roll on them why not of added another tab that would have allowed you to pass your roll onto another person on the team to increase there chance of getting the item. As far as personnel drops items, add a fuction that would move the item into a team item roll window. I know a many of my mates would have been happy to pass items on to other teammates that worked just as hard in the STF mission.
As far as the 8000 dil daily before the STF change with luck i could have this done in Two STF mission 2200 + drops to be exchanged into dil which i did quite often so dont understands Daniels S commends that this change would make getting dil easier lol. Just think system was better before and a lot less work had to go into changing it to this mess that it is now when a little fuction tab tweak is all it needed.
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This is general feedback tread so i can post here and start treads as i wish and the more PWE and cyptic see the community is not happy with the changes something good may come out of it.
Wow, sorry, your lordship!!
(Just saying...)
First it was "Loot is too random! Especially STF gear!"
So Cryptic says "Fine...you'll just have to buy the stuff now."
And the community is angry.
Then it was "There's no Dilithium in STFs anymore!" (a fair argument, as they are some of the most difficult misisons in the game and require teams who know what they're doing)
So Cryptic says "Fine...we'll go to 960 for Elite STFs. Add in the BNP at 5 = 1000 Dilithium and you actually come out ahead on Dilithium compared to pre-S7."
And the players are angry, saying "That's not enough!"...even though it's more than they had if they trade in the BNPs they get above and beyond whatever gear they want to get (or if you're happy with what you have, what you'll never need).
Guys, you can't keep wanting the moon. At the same time, Cryptic can't give us Death Valley either.
Both the players and Cryptic are going to have to find a middle ground. End of story.
The sad thing is that the complainers will still find something wrong and complain some more.
Cause we're looking at the BIG picture. you're not.
Adding content in the form of episodes is nice but very short lived. You play them, you're done, you want more. Season 6 and 7 have added more substance to the game, Season 7 more specifically adding a LOT of end-game content. Systems like this will complement new story arcs and episodes when they're released. They'll work hand-in-hand. New reputations will be easier to drop in now that the framework has been done.
Having systems in place that give you things too quickly results in boredom. I have a toon I rarely played because it had everything. The best gear, the best ships, the best pets, everything. It even got mk XII MACO gear in under a week. When it had everything, what was the use of playing it? Now it has stuff to do again. Stuff to achieve. It's had the cobwebs dusted off it and it's getting out and about again.
People used to complain about being able to level up too fast. The best thing to do in regards to that would be to scale the levelling system, although judging by the furore we've seen with the dilithium changes there'd be murder in the streets!!
Slowing down the flow of resources means that end game levelling will be slower. It will give long term goals for toons, not the instant gratification that leaves people crying out for more.
I am looking at the long term picture. Are you?
The correct way to solve that was to give "Omega Marks" for doing missions on Elite, and then have it so you could buy the mark 12 set items for some number of Omega Marks just like you could buy the mark 11 set items for chips. If you were trying for the gun and didn't get it after 20 tries due to the random nature, then here ya go, congrats on being tenacious enough to earn it.
They didn't do that.
Rare salvage was worth 1000 dilithium. Prototype salvage was worth 2000. Tech was also worth either 1000 or 2000. I had missions where I made 6000 dilithium in one run, because I picked up some prototypes and cashed them in.
Dilithium rewards for STF are now about half of what they were because we have no tech or salvage to trade in.
ya this is true for me 100% agree
system Lord Baal is dead
So you want everything now. This minute. Instant gratification.
Dilithium has always been far too easy to pick up. It's about time it was harder to come by. What use is a commodity if it's too common?
The smart way to do the same thing is raise the prices
Not cut the rewards
Cryptic raised prices and added new costs
And cut the rewards ........Bad management decision
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
In case you hadn't noticed, most of the game requires dilithium and that has to come from somewhere.
As for the dilithium coming from somewhere, well, yes, it does. Now you'll have to be more careful with it. I see no harm in budgeting. People seem to want everything now. What is what all this greed?
No, It's just that some of us don't do dailies, for some people STFs are the main/only source of dilithium and taking that away harms the playing experience of a lot of people.
It's not greed, it's getting by
Apologies, but then you shouldn't depend so much on STFs for dilithium. What's the old saying, don't put all your eggs in one basket?
If I had to choose between the old system and this new system (WITHOUT changing anything about the new system) then I'd prefer the new system as it provides more gear with long term goals to strive for.
They have left the story hanging amd the last 2 seasons don't touch it. at least WOW tries to continue a story plot. ANd have you forgotten A LOT in tboth the embassy AND Starbase projects require dilithium. now I would mind less Dil in STFs IF it was more spread out. adding it to just FA's doesn't do that. And more importantly they snuck that tidbit on us. and since it's OUR money we're investing I think we have more at stake.
One man's reasonable thing is another man's moon. Clearly, in Cryptic's eyes you wanted the moon, and have been getting it for too long.
What's the difference if the change happens now or in Season 8? They gain zilch, and you gain another few months of getting more dil than they think you should.
And you didn't think the changes were necessary in the first place, so it doesn't matter when the changes happen, you don't want them at all. You'd have just complained in a few months rather than now.
Also, they did do it by seasons. This season.
This. This exactly. Now we have to throw it into Craptic's greedy face.
pwebranflakes: this system is currently in place and working the way it should.
moradum: I got banned for saying "I started my day with cutting off 3 MM off of the bottom of my cabinet"
Let try and put this into a nutshell for you. Some of us, me included, have a large monetary investment in the game. I also work for a living. I don't have time to come home and use all my spare time playing a buggy game that at least in S6 gave some reward with a couple of hours of gameplay. I don't want a second job playing this game every spare minute i have and having to wait until i retire to achieve anything.
It's not about wanting everything now, it's just that there is a large percentage of players who simply don't have the time to grind until doomsday for basically very little reward. This is why S7 sucks balls, very simple.
The Khasi of Kalabar: They will die the death of a thousand cuts!
Princess Jelhi: Oh! But that's horrible!
The Khasi of Kalabar: Not at all my little desert flower, the British are used to cuts!
Does anyone have a link to reference this quote by Borticus?
You know , you are a real piece of work ... .
THAT was your answer to someone who was upset because the clickys were taken away (a year too late) .
And now this is your same answer to the STF-er , who you know damn well that has EARNED his Dilithium through the hardest way this damn game has to offer !
Why so hypocrite , huh ?
Why do you just burrrn up inside when anyone gets anything in this game ?
Why do you personally have to suffer (and troll) when someone asks -- not for more , but for what he got before , just a few days ago ?