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skurf
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Now that they have added dilithium rewards to STFs they have taken away a large portion of the dilithium reward from the fleet actions. Effectively, this means you now have to spend twice the amount of time playing scenarios as before to earn the same amount of dilithium. And the STFs still don't offer Optional drops for the chance at XII gear. Is this really what y'all wanted?
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Do you mean getting dil. rewards for STFs is better than nothing? My point is that the opposite is true. It'd be better to get nothing for STFs while keeping the large reward for a Fleet Action than it is to split the dilithium reward between the two. You now have to play twice the amount of scenarios (twice the amount of time) to get the same amount of dilithium that you could get from just 1 fleet action previous to this change.
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Hey, I'm not the enemy here. I'm not the one pretending to appease the stranglehold on dilithium while in reality only tightening my grip further.
@DevolvedOne
So it's no big loss unless they actually make
A STF quality fleet action
Colony invasion was the only fun fleet action
To me and it didn't reward Dilithium did it ?
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And i agree with you.
And this is not what i asked for.
And once again i feel like Devs played me.
they took your cady and gave back half of it to you :P
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you can do 2 FA in the time it takes to do one STF and you cant fail the FA.. unless you come in last place i guess..
this makes the dil about the same..
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
It may not be what I wanted but I'd still rather spend twice the time in STFs actually playing the game than sitting in SB24, pointing my ship in the right direction and letting autofire do the work.
So true........
Cryptic, put it back to 1440 for Fleet Actions, and put a numerical counter back on the queues so we know how many people are in the queue so we can make a more informed decision on whether to wait around or not.
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I never said you were the enemy, but if you ask a silly question then you get a silly answer.
I don't think Colony Invasion is an actual Fleet Action.
Fleet Actions are like SB24, Romulan Big Dig, Gorn Minefield, Breaking the Planet, etc.
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When devs took away dil from STF and awarded dil for FAs, the community whines... because FAs are boring, bla bla bla, STF more fun, bla bla bla..
When they reversed course and give dil back to STF and reduced FA, the community whines again...STF too hard, FA easier, bla bla bla..
This kind of ambivalent community behaviour basically shows devs that the community feedback cannot be taken seriously.
Again back to my argument.. Dont play this game just to farm Dilithium, enjoy the story, the environment, the scenery, not just Dilithium... GOSH...
Maybe i will start a Dilithium farming business where I employ 20 people to help the community do the dil dailies for $2/day.. anyone interested??
Lets see 4 customers to 1 farmer/day = $8
farmer salary = $2/day
Monthly i will earn: $3600 net profit.
If i have 200 farmers, thats $36k net income per month.
Anyone wanna partner up?
Very best reply in this post so far!
There was no conflict in what the community was saying at all. We asked for dil to be put back into STF. We did NOT ask for it to be taken out of fleet actions. That was unilaterally and unprovokedly Cryptic. I don't like those missions very much, but there are people who do. I am totally in favor of people playing those for their dil if that's what they enjoy playing. I just don't understand why we can't have dil on both things. It's not like the cooldowns are an obstacle to chaining together either fleet actions or STF, if you only want to do one of them.
i remember q'ing up for nearly one hour one time and finally giving up..
its nice to have an option on what you wan to play.. not just get dil in one mission you have to do over and over..
KDF has one FA for space..
there needs to be more options to get dil, not less.
also why did they take dil out of mirror?
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Everything needs to balance out. Now, you get some from STF for STF junkies and you get some from FA for FA junkies.
Like in real life, can't have too much of everything. Learn to live with what we have and have the scarcity mindset.
This is the reason why the changes were made in the first place.
And if Cryptic decided to sneak in a nerf for dil farming dil-weeds (haha, get it?), then tough cookies.
I'm not in a position to say whether or not the nerf was necessary or will be beneficial. Only time and the market will tell, but if nothing else, there's at last a reason to do more than one thing in the daily grind.
Changes are compromise. If STF lovers (or more accurately, players that loved getting all their dil in 8 minutes doing just one thing - STFs are little better than console clicking in that regard), then sorry, try some Fleet Actions. And if you don't want to because you hate Fleet Actions, sorry, you'll have to put up with a lower farming output. If we're lucky FAs will be tweaked to make them more appealing to STF snobs.
In the meantime, the players who do want to play FAs or have fun doing them now get better rewards and won't feel forced to grind only STFs to get what they need.
1 Stockpile Dilithium
2 Complain and get all other sources nerfed to increase my stock's value
3 Send my hat-throwing Tellarite henchman to ESD to irradiate all other dil stores and increase my value even further
4 Profit!!
See? Someone always benefits. The complaining happens when the whiners realize that they don't have the monopoly on nice things anymore.
I have played both repeatedly and can honestly say that after enough time, neither type is more or less boring than the other, they can both turn into mind numbing grinds if you do them often enough!!!!
The FAs(for a day) at least gave a dil reward appropriate to the time expended, at 480, its not worth it, not by a long stretch!!
So thank you very bloody much all you STF whinging TRIBBLE, hope your all friggin happy, rejoice in the fact that you have made the game less rewarding for those that don't WANT to do your stupid TRIBBLE missions( and repeating elite missions over and over till you can do them in your sleep DOES NOT make you a better player, any mug can do that!!!!)
Am sure there will many who try to justify their position........... but you are confusing me with somebody who gives a **** what you now have to say.
End Rant!!!:mad:
there needs to be MORE ways to get dil, not less..
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And thankfully, THAT is the feedback Cryptic listened to, and nothing more from the unreasonable corners of the room.
Simply indulging the vocal minority (i.e. every forum ever) without thought or consideration is not a winning strategy.
No, I'm not happy with several things with this launch like the dil fiasco and even more grind, and there were some definite issues with the train wreck (note: this is in my OPINION) that was S6, but, in the end, I am happy with most STO has to offer. But what makes me happy is going to TRIBBLE someone else off, and vice versa.
My advice is that you enjoy this GAME for what it is and stave off the strokes some of you are bound to have over this, or, another solution: stop paying and/or playing and find your entertainment elsewhere. There have to be a hell of a lot of more important things in your lives to be this passionate about, and MUCH bigger issues to resolve...and if not, you have my sympathies.
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Many of the vocal STFers, me included, never play FA's and wouldn't touch them with 1440 dili either.
So yes, people like me are glad to have a choice again.
As for FA's rewarding less now, their cooldown is lower and they are infinitely easier then an Elite STF, thus, that too only makes sense to me.
Folks trying to fund their fleets or just the crazy farmers would likely still gravitate towards STFs and FAs as they would reward the most, while there'd still be enough to be had from the lower rungs on the ladder to not leave anyone else out in the cold.
I'm no economist, though. Grain of salt and all that.
Since the start of new season dilithium sinks increasead .
About FA and STF. People who love playing STF asked for the dilithium and i agree that it was ok to give that back
Nerfing FA dilithium quantity is not ok.
The right decision it would have been (in my opinion) to put back dilithium in STF ,keep the 1440 dilithium in FA and wait for a week or two and see the statistics.
In 2 weeks time things would have settled and a correct decision would have been easier to take.
All the rush for FA was caused by STF dil nerf .
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
And I am always passionate about my recreational time, it's the most important part of the day.
Work you get paid for taking on stress but relaxing time has be relaxing else you find yourself in trouble real quick.
If you don't take your recreational time seriously you have my sympathy.