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tanith1989
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its been bugging me since they introduced it with the STFs its that bloody PvE queue system. it breaks immersion so much i have been on earth space dock not having to go anywhere at all because you dont need to i HATE it. i liked the days when you had to fly to system X to play the game but now your captain can sit on there backside anywhere and do what the hell they like its really annoying who else agrees and who else wants it changed back to the old ways of having to go to the system the mission is set in to play the mission
Ketan Merious
Captain, U.S.S Transcendent
Explorers Fleet, Senior Member
Captain, U.S.S Transcendent
Explorers Fleet, Senior Member
We want an Odyssey variant give us it
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Captain, U.S.S Transcendent
Explorers Fleet, Senior Member
but i think thats a Free 2 Play thing
looking at other Free 2 Play games, they all seem the get rid of travel times and replace everything with instant action.
well at least the ones that were produced as F2P.
and i would like to point out, if you don't fly there you won't be DOffing on the way = missed opportunity.
If it breaks your immersion, don't do it; most of the stuff still lives in a system, you can choose to fly there if you want.
i know i do try to most of the time but i am also very lazy so i kinda hate having that more convenient option there
Captain, U.S.S Transcendent
Explorers Fleet, Senior Member
Then by your own admission, the problem is not the game mechanic, but your own laziness. In which case, this is not actually STO discussion, but a personal problem.
No reason to have large cargo bays
Warp speed works I'n reverse I'n this game
Smaller is faster I'n cannon larger was faster
Why have a large high warp ship with large
Cargo bays large crew
When you can teleport your tiny better armed
Warship in seconds to the other side of the galaxy ?
It's not trek it's STO
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Seriously, you want ship cargo size to matter when players are walking around carrying everything in their pockets?
False, it wasn't the size of the ship, it was the size/type of the engine. And if you go into the ship interior, the warp core is the same size on every ship. QED, equal speed (unless you're using the MACO/Omega/Borg engines.
Large crew repairs damage faster in combat.
Transwarp, it's a thing, and that's the way it worked in Trek, too. Deal with it.
Please. Just quit. You clearly wanted EVE, Evochron, or MMO Bridge Commander. STO is very trek, but your trek is different.
Canonically false. The USS Voyager has a higher warp factor rating than a Galaxy-class starship. The Intrepid-class is something like a third or a quarter the size, so you're wrong, smaller actually is faster in canon. The Defiant-class was also rated at having warp factor 9.5, which puts it in comparable speed to the Enterprise. It's even smaller.
You're obviously not much of a fan if these facts elude you.
The excelsior can go warp 12/14 I'n strict cannon approved
By gene r
The Gal X can go warp 13 I'n TNG Cannon
Deal with that !
Who's the trek Fan. Lol
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Uh, the only way your two examples count is if the only canon that matters is TOS, and that's only for the Excelsior canon.
1. Gal-X is from an alternate timeline, one where the warp speed measurement was likely recalibrated to account for higher warp factors.
2. The Excelsior example is from BEFORE the warp scale was recalibrated (with Rodenberry's approval!) to set Warp 10 as the maximum speed (aside from transwarp).
You may be a fan, but you're cherry-picking your facts worse than Fox News.
not alternate timeline all in picards head
system Lord Baal is dead
And there we go. It's even LESS relevant than when he first cited it.
then dont reply to the stuff end of story ya? :P
system Lord Baal is dead
The USS Excelsior never went to warp in Star Trek 3, and there was no warp factor given in Star Trek 6 other than 'fly 'er apart!' speed. I'm not sure how to quantify that.
Gene Roddenberry did not then and does not now dictate the canon policy Trek falls under. He never did when he was alive and he certainly does not do so now since he's dead.
As unangbangkay already stated, the Galaxy refit design we see in 'All Good Things...' is part of an alternate timeline; it is presumed that the warp factor scale was reworked in this timeline; however, this is irrelevant because that timeline was discontinued.
It's very clear to me all you know about star trek
Has come from STO and wiki,that's a pity
Real trek is quite differnt, trek can be anything you want
Really, I point out what I know about trek and it's history
Yes this game is very UnCannon I'n many ways but I am
Adapting to it slowly. It is a pity STO/wiki are trying to rewrite
Cannon confusing the facts about many things.
When a new cannon version mmo of star trek comes out I'm gone
Until then this is all there is
Get used to me
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
So, it can be explained that the Enterprise-D was refitted with the MACO engine, hence able to do Warp 13 easily even if Riker took no points in Driver Coils.
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If trek can be anything we want, why are you quibbling about canon?
If that is your attitude, STO is free to interpret Star Trek any way it sees fit, and it has done so, in a way that is surprisingly respectful of the canon as set in the shows, and certainly more so than the latest movie.
At least maintain a consistent attitude. That way I can get used to you.
Interesting point. STO makes no mention of Warp 10, so the scale could have been recalibrated yet again. It makes sense given the proliferation of quantum slipstream drives and transwarp.
You know what else breaks immersion? The fact that you respawn when you die.
If you want to be hard-core about "immersion", then delete and re-roll your character everytime you go down or your ship gets blown up. If you don't, then don't begrudge the rest of us being able to skip the annoying travel times.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
only if <<<<<CBS>>>>> say they can
system Lord Baal is dead
gene r set warp speed period
It makes and defines the entire trek universe
Warp speed is the speed of light cubed by 3
At warp 7 it takes roughly 3 days to go 1 light year
Fasa developing ultra warp was the primary reason gene r pulled
There lisence, a interview with him I'n the ST fan club
Magazine he covered the reasons that was the primary one
I guess they can write what they want at memory alfa , but it isn't cannon .
star trek was created by gene r and he set rules and limits
To his creation
I'n gene r star trek a player can create a starship using his
Rules you can't do that with current (cannon ) because hardly
Any rules are applied that's the difference
With this said STO can make Harry mudds cargo ship fly at warp
48 and have a turn rate of 29 because they are making the rules
As they see fit.........
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Roddenberry also worked on TNG, and authorized the recalibration of the warp scale.
End of discussion.
Show any proof
You can't
End of fantasy
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
up untill 1991 the year he died and what Gen made cannon in the past dont mean all is still true to day CBS says what and what is Cannon not the fan base
system Lord Baal is dead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roddenberry
"Syndication of Star Trek led to increasing popularity, and Roddenberry continued to create, produce, and consult on Star Trek films and the television series, Star Trek: The Next Generation until his death."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092455/fullcredits#cast
"Series Writing credits:
Gene Roddenberry-(176 episodes, 1987-1991)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation
"Star Trek: The Next Generation (often abbreviated to TNG) is an American science fiction television series created by Gene Roddenberry as part of the Star Trek franchise. Roddenberry, Rick Berman, and Michael Piller served as executive producers at different times throughout the production. The show was created 21 years after the original Star Trek show."
The fantasy is yours.
My point exactly. I love Gene much as the next Trekker, but for better or worse, Trek didn't end when he died.
Technology will improve, ships go faster.
Many would most definitely not play this game if we're just stuck with a constitution, excelsior or ancient ships to preserve the canon.
Go back to your cave with your boxed DVDs and you can delve in your own stuck in timeline Trek addiction.
Gosh...
sorry im a TNG fan and up not TOS!!!!!! dont go calling every one TOS preservers so go back to your cave dude
system Lord Baal is dead
But also having to do waterboy tasks when I have 100 doffs, albeit I guess the senior staff on the shows were always getting their hands dirty.
Gameplay as an admiral is the same as level 1, you blasting npcs in your ship
Not being able to change alert levels.
Not being able to hail people in space and getting them on screen.
Buying items for currency as content.
Not using the tricoder in combat situations or getting any kind of active information from it.
Not being able to use site to site transport or even interact with it at all.
The funny thing here is that the guy is playing STO because it's "the only Trek available", and yet refuses to recognize anything in it as genuinely "Trek". In fact, by his behavior in this thread nothing in any game beyond 1991 will ever be Trek enough for him because Trek began and ended with Roddenberry.
A cannon is what you use on a battlefield. It was an artillery piece commonly used when Napoleon was alive. Also used on old wooden sailing ships when guys Nelson were Admirals.
Canon is what nerds fight over on internet forums. It is also a religious term too.