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lillithiae
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Apparently season 7 goes live next Tuesday, even though the new foundry spotlight system HASNT been tested on tribble. Why do the devs not want to test this before pushing it live? And what will the rewards be for playing the weekly spotlight?
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This will be up on Tribble soon, so you can see for yourselves.
You have got to be kidding. Blue gear is useless to max level players, which are the very people who need more content. Man, I was(key word) really looking forward to this, but random rewards is junk
Is a random blue thingy worth someone's time? I don't really know, since I spend my nights building sets, or fighting with the foundry in some way.
Will it get folks to play my spotlight? I really have no idea anymore about gear and what anything is worth in this game.
How long does the Nukara mission take that offers comparable rewards?
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Anyway what would you have them do, give away all purple gear at the door ?
But I agree, if I have 30 minutes to play I am spending it on marks or dil but I guess doff packs are purple level gear in the future, gotta remember to hog before monday
If it's consoles or engines, it is. Blue consoles are quite effective and I'd venture the staple of a lot of builds. Engines vendor for a healthy amount of EC.
Otherwise... Probably not unless there are novel items included. But it beats nothing.
Vendor-trash for any random Foundry mission, past a certain duration, perhaps. Vendor-trash for a (past or present) Foundry spotlight? That's funny. The (probably) extremely small chance for a mini-Doffpack aside.
Okay, so maybe (probably) even a spotlight Foundry mission shouldn't outcompete reputation and dilithium store gear, but vendor trash is just annoying. It just sits there, waiting for you to delete it, to make room for that battery you mean to pick up. Remember when playing starcluster missions on Elite was a big deal, cause the rewards were better? Humor me. Check what Mk X purple gear, of any kind, goes for on the exchange. Maybe it's almost tolerable as a temporary solution, but if you think vendor trash is just dandy, and we're sticking with it...
It's pretty hopeless.
Honestly, if this gear's going to be the kind of subpar that, really, only people who hit VA in the last two weeks or so will ever see it as an additional reason to play a spotlight mission, I think you'd be better off scrapping it and replacing it with the lockbox dual-consumables. Those actually have some use.
Of course, my preference for the Foundry (eventually, I know you can't stomp this out over the weekend or even anytime this year) would be to:
Make it into a reputation system.
Memory Alpha (*) marks and Order of the Bat'leth (**) marks respectively, so the crummy mk XI consoles and gear can be put in a store. (Sans dilithium tax, svp.) Else, blue mk XI or XII hybrid weapons. I imagine most would be willing to tolerate some dilithium tax on that one, and since at least Memory Alpha's been pegged as R&D by STO, not an inappropriate place for them. (In either case you'd have to find a way to make the store auto-cater to the right level, though, or let it get rather spammy, or keep it as VA only system - which is a bad idea.) Also, exchange options. (MA/OB marks for fleet marks, latinum, EC, dilithium or perhaps even Lobi. You lot do say you can't account-bind it cause of it being given out for free, but haven't done latter deed since one limited time FE replay. Mind you, I'd prefer the orange rocks to account-bind, so feel free to exclude these.)
(**) Tentatively. You wouldn't get to join this bunch without having some tall tales under that ugly belt of yours, and while I suppose it's a bit militaristic, and not all Foundry missions end with "And then we ripped out its hearts and ate it!" or other such colorful and unhygienic notions, I deemed it close enough for the purposes of the argument. You can always think of something involving the Lorekeepers for an alternative alternative.
Lastly... okay, so I used the word "if" a bunch of times, but I still jumped to some conclusions. Time now for you [Cryptic] to make me look a fool. If you think you're up to it. :cool:
I spent like 70+ hours making my mission to win a contest. I got 1200 Zen as a prize. I'm not sure what that equals in money/hour. But, I had hoped that some spotlight rewards would earn me some plays and reviews.
"Vendor trash" and the other responses are about as discouraging as can be.
I don't understand what is happening here.
They want to reward folks for playing the regular foundry missions with... 1440 dil for 2-3 hours of work. Now, they reward you for playing my spotlight with blue gear that is called "vendor trash."
What is going on?
You can run some of them in less than 5 minutes. And considering how much more grind will be needed in S7.... time is going to be very very tight
Unless the reward is one of the following you will not get someone like myself to care.
1) Something I cannot get anywhere else easily. Like Lobi. Make it unlock for the account only if your worried about the alt issue so it is once per account.
2) Insane quantity of something that blows everything else's time : reward ratio out of the water. I'm talking like 8-16k dil, a mil or two in EC. That level of reward and same as above it should be once per account.
Alternatively they could sit down and do this properly by following these steps.
1) Identify the style of player that would have a genuine interest in playing high quality foundry missions for the story contained within. It is counter-productive to try and force a player to partake in a type of content they may not enjoy with the stick or the carrot. Its like forcing a hardcore PvPer to grind out PvE content to remain competitive....
2) Identify the best way to reward that style of player in a manner that they would appreciate and desire. As above a PvE player would find very little use in a consumable sci team battery item but a PvPer would likely do nearly anything for one....
I would assume it would be a casual player who likely does not have an abundance of time and may lean toward the RP side a bit. I would then also assume that said player would like to be rewarded with a reasonable amount of dil and/or marks just so they don't feel conflicted over partaking in the spotlight over grinding along with something else that they might enjoy. Like perhaps costume unlocks, exotic boffs/doffs, you know the things that were supposed to go in the latinium store but ended up in the lobi store.
Just my two cents..
Well, the upside is that most drops in the game are actually just vendor trash. Some vendor trash is actually pretty valuable, and sometimes you get something REALLY usefull that sells well in the exchange.
As fas as comparing the "vendor trash" with the Dil from the Oficer daily missions..... nothing is preventing a player from including a Foundry Spotlight mission as part of their Officer dailies. The problem is that 2 to 3 hours for 1440 Dil is just not going to be worth doing. Not with the game becoming more and more of a grind.
I think it would greatly benefit you if you could take a night or two off and do some dailies for Dil now, and compare the time vs. reward. Then compare that Vs. the DIl costs of starbase protects and the upcoming base embassy and rep gear, all costing Dil. I say this so you can get a better idea of what motivates a lot of players (not all) and can understand what's happening a lot better.
Doff packs? Are you sure? I'm fine with blue gear as long as there's a reasonable chance to get that. And by "reasonable" I mean something more than your current meaning of this word, which is close to 1% or so. Let's say 20%.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
The Nukura rewards were good because there was a highly decent chance to get Purple gear or even a set item (I think I completed the set with about 30 boxes or so). But mostly the draw was the set items. You need to figure out something to replace those in worth to make the whole package attractive.
Sheesh, it took me 30 boxes to get two pieces, then another 30 boxes of junk before I gave up and bought 60 boxes in the hope of getting the final piece (and I got it on the 54th box). Less RNG loot, more static loot or reputation system. Just my 2 cents.
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Why are the rewards no better than the kind of things you would get normally from the rewards system for ALL quests in Neverwinter's Foundry? If the Spotlight Missions are special, handpicked episodes to be featured by Cryptic, why do they only get "normal" rewards?
Wouldn't it be better to have someone discuss with each Spotlight Mission author what kinds of rewards they would like to be available for their special, featuring-as-essentially-game-canon-worthy missions?
I can tell you right now a random Blue or better item for 45 minutes of gameplay will not be worth many's time. Basically, an item you can get from one drop from a MOB anywhere with far less effort (mind you the loot tables in this game are stingy to begin with). The DOFF minipacks are also not a good draw either. They are what 3 common DOFFs??? If this is the case, then I understand why the 1000 dil tax is on the recruitment 5-pack (to disuade people from using it). I see these rewards as stingy.
We were told flat out no on this, because we can't expect any dev time on customized rewards for a Foundry mission.
Just so you know, I know I may be in the minority but I am one of the players who does not have time to do such long form missions and do not like the removal of the one click missions for Investigate Officer Reports. Thanks for helping to show that additional $50 added to the hundreds I have put into this game was a genuine Mistake. *groan*
Considering they don't have time to add a teleporter into the Foundry assets I suppose this makes sense, though somewhat disappointing. I really want to know how they are considering Spotlight missions as. Are they supposed to be what they consider examples of the best that can be done with the Foundry or just 'this is cool' sharing like sending youtube links on Facebook.
I understand why they might not want to do a time requirement for the IOR daily, as that could just lead to idling, but the way it's looking now I don't see any real benefit. The Lobi idea IS a good one, as its something you can't get anywhere else and might drive more players over, even if it's small. It's common knowledge the lock boxes aren't popular with everyone, so providing an alternative to earning Lobi would be a much more effective means of attracting new players to try out the Foundry missions then a blue Mk XI.
Please re-evaluate this reward system.
Guys! It is better than nothing, so chill! :P
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Is it better than nothing? Yes. Is it really an incentive? Probably not, unless some of those drops are incorporated into the project needs.
Really? Is that the best tagline we can come up with now? And why stop there? Why not say it's better than being savagely beaten? That is also true! "Aw TRIBBLE, two hours of spellchecking some guy's fanfic and I get a dime a dozen mk XI blue stealth console. But hey, it's not Ebola! THIS GAME IS AWESOME!!"
Look ma, no boils!
Is that, really, a selling point?
Could be worse?
Great, that leaves us somewhere to go.