I cashed out of most of my stash already and am hanging on to a small reserve so that I get a small boost to my progress when S7 hits. Honestly, though, I'm going to be doing so many STF's anyway that I won't really need the omega marks boost, but what I do need is dilithium and cashing out is indubitably the better way to go if that is what you want. Now the Borg Neural Processors I have no idea about, but I'm gonna take my chances on earning those straight up and just take my dilithium now, please.
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We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.25.20121026a.10
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Increased the number of Borg Neural Processors in Omega Conversion Crates.
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Well the fact that I am being robbed and now they have squashed the quickie foundry daily missions, it is a no brainer for me to cash in all my tech.....
Why would you cash in all of your EDCs? I had just 70 EDCs on Tribble during the conversion, and I get about 2000 Omega marks, 1000 dilithium, and a few of the elite items. All of this is enough to advance through the ENTIRE reputation system without grinding any STFs! For the 7000 dilithium ORE I would get from cashing in now, keeping this for a conversion is a much wiser move. I think a large number of you are throwing away a very big opportunity here.
Why would you cash in all of your EDCs? I had just 70 EDCs on Tribble during the conversion, and I get about 2000 Omega marks, 1000 dilithium, and a few of the elite items. All of this is enough to advance through the ENTIRE reputation system without grinding any STFs! For the 7000 dilithium ORE I would get from cashing in now, keeping this for a conversion is a much wiser move. I think a large number of you are throwing away a very big opportunity here.
I really think it depends on how many STFs you want to run.
Speaking personally, I'm getting a bit tired of them and will probably get as much as I can from Defera and scale back on ESTFs.
People with a lot of stuff who let the conversion happen will never have to run an ESTF again. I consider that a perk that's worth dilithium I could get elsewhere.
Why is so much effort going into figuring this out? A good game should be a fun, relaxing or otherwise satisfying experience. Cryptic/PWE has turned on their players in such a way that it's become some sort of research project to try to avoid getting ****ed by them.
I really think it depends on how many STFs you want to run.
Speaking personally, I'm getting a bit tired of them and will probably get as much as I can from Defera and scale back on ESTFs.
People with a lot of stuff who let the conversion happen will never have to run an ESTF again. I consider that a perk that's worth dilithium I could get elsewhere.
Yea i kinda agree cause i allready got a bunch of dilithium now i havent used and i am kinda tired of running stfs
Cryptic is doing all they can to get the information out to player. But there are limit to how much Cryptic can and will do. You can't going to come to your front door and have your information packet. Player have got to do a little digging for themselves.
A message on the launcher where the news is now with the headline: STF changes incoming, for example. Or maybe use some of the 75% of space currently advertising the C-Store for a week to let players know of something this big.
Cryptic is doing all they can to get the information out to player. But there are limit to how much Cryptic can and will do. You can't going to come to your front door and have your information packet. Player have got to do a little digging for themselves.
So it's beyond them to post an official conversion tier chart to help the player decide what to do come Tuesday? :rolleyes:
Well the fact that I am being robbed and now they have squashed the quickie foundry daily missions, it is a no brainer for me to cash in all my tech.....
Do you have a link to where they state they're doing away the Foundry Daily mission?
The latest Tribble patchnotes say that the Foundry daily only applies to approved missions that generate XP.
Yeap i know alot of foundry authors like this but it only hurts you cause personaly trying to make me run them is only pushing me away from them so where yes i was one of the clickers but every once and a while i would play thr foundry regular missions now i wont cause of this, so what this does is push people away doesnt bring them in.
they dont care what it pushes you away from. its what its pushing everyone towards..
they want you to buy zen and convert it to dilithium.. they dont want you to get it easily any other way.
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they dont care what it pushes you away from. its what its pushing everyone towards..
they want you to buy zen and convert it to dilithium.. they dont want you to get it easily any other way.
Very true but they have underestimated how cheap i am lol, i will never buy zen to get dilithium, never never never lol mmuhahahahaha, ill buy ships costumes pets all kinds of things but not dilithium, Yea in all honesty the think where stupid or something cause its more them obviouse that there plan on people buying dilithium with zen hasnt turned out like they thought it would so now there trying to make ya do it, but it's not happening with me, Ill farm dilithium as best i can and even if they make it so ya cant them ill simply do with out, this is only a game and as much as i love star trek, this game is not a have to in life.
Yeah, I don't know... I don't want to impose a position on the other guy, but there's something innately funny about this. People complain on the forum on any matter, and Cryptic supporters usually waste little time to rush in and remind people that their slights don't matter as they're a minority. People are about to get treated to a Borg colonoscopy, and now we have them going "But at least we - those who use the test-server, the minority of the minority that uses the site/forums - get a (nice and roundabout) heads up."
I get screwed? Fine. I'm here daily. That's my own fault. Should've paid attention. But think of the silent majority! Think of the children, sir! They can't all know about the hyperspace express way bypass plans on display at our local planning office on Alpha Centauri.
Anywho, on to something I actually care about:
Anyone know if the costumes for Boffs on Tribble require all three set items to be equipped to the Boff in question, or whether just the armor will suffice? Cause if 120 EDC will kit out one Boff, it's a different consideration than when it outfits three.
Edit: Nevermind that. It's just the armor. Will need to grab some spares.
Lol. And I thought I was the only one who ever referenced that book.
Anyway, there's another way you can give them MACO costumes, and it doesn't need spare armor.
Type in /costumecreator.setslottype [string] to convert the slot type to whatever [string] is. If it's not a valid type, you get Tr: Unrestricted, which lets you use any of your unlocked costume items for this species. This also allows for off-duty boffs
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so what you guys are saying is that i'm better off if i leave the remaining (less than 10) EDC in my inventory... instead of going nuts because i can't get the last 3 edc per car converted
ok got it
Do we have any info if any STF Accolades / owning a full XII Set gives a boost with that mysterious crate / box thingy?
anyway 11 Chars x 2 Months grind will be BRUTAL.
I'm looking at doing the same with 13 to 19 characters. I think I may pare it down to only caring about 7 of them.
But can you explain why you should leave your Encrypted data chips, if you happen to have 2 to 3 of them, in inventory instead of trying to use them in some way.
Why is so much effort going into figuring this out? A good game should be a fun, relaxing or otherwise satisfying experience. Cryptic/PWE has turned on their players in such a way that it's become some sort of research project to try to avoid getting ****ed by them.
It's our current reality. It sucks but we do it for the love of the game.
I really think it depends on how many STFs you want to run.
People with a lot of stuff who let the conversion happen will never have to run an ESTF again. I consider that a perk that's worth dilithium I could get elsewhere.
This.
I'm cashing out most of it, but leaving enough to convert over to 3000 Omega marks. Reason? According to current prices, each mark XII piece will cost 1000 omega marks. 3000 will allow me to pick up the whole set. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that each elite STF would award something around the neighborhood of 50 omega marks. That's 60 STFs to get 3000 marks. I have 6 toons. The idea of running ANOTHER 360 STFs after ALREADY running a bunch to unlock the reputation to T5 doesn't exactly make me jump for joy. Now, i will still be running some STFs even after I unlock T5. And since omega marks can't be transferred between toons, I'd have to run them equally on all toons. I think I'd rather grind dilithium on the characters I want to play, and transfer it to the ones that need it. Not to mention that I can get dilithium through other means (something that can't be done with omega marks). With 3000 omega marks from the conversion, I won't need to run additional STFs on every character, and to me, that's worth something.
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What's a good number of EDC to leave behind? I was planning on leaving my techs to be converted and am trying to figure out a good number of EDC to cash in as I've seen others with considerably less EDC get the same amount of Omega Marks and Neural Processors.
I have ~612 EDC, 9 proto tech and 11 rare tech. I cashed in all of my salvages as they didn't seem to impact results at all. If I leave it all as it is now to be converted it gets 4000 OM, 18 BNPs and 16K dil..
This would all be so much simpler if Cryptic released a tier chart of their cutoff points :rolleyes:
I have cleaned the mess on 3 chars, i've bought alternative space weapon types, some ground Mk XII stuff, turned most of my ground techs into Maco/honor guard Mk XI and XII gear for my bridge officers, and turned the rest into dil. I think i made 400-450k dil, on 3 chars. Kept roughtly 30 EDCs on each to get a small boost for a small price.
I've gotta say, the current incarnation of the planned EDC conversion strikes me as poorly planned; many (if not all) people who have this soon to be defunct currency are simply converting their EDC tokens to dilithium before the new season starts so they do not suffer what is perceived as a severe devaluation of their in-game currency.
If the conversion system is going to be tiered, why was the design concept made to penalise players with large amounts of EDC-based currency? Why do the Omega boxes themselves contain the dilithium? Wouldn't it have made more sense to convert all EDC currencies to dilithium ore as S7 is rolled out server, then awarding the player a set amount of 'Omega Points' for the purpose of deciding what rewards they would eventually receive when they are able to unlock it?
You could even add a dilithium ore received malus to conversion at certain tiers, to simulate buying the Omega Box rewards with Ore you would otherwise have recieved from converting prior to S7 rollout, instead of giving out the paltry sums that have been seen in the Tribble test Server.
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I am hoping that I'll have time early in the morning - it states that the servers are coming down from 6am to 9am Western time - I live in the east coast so we are 3hrs ahead. That translate to 9am to 12noon - so I may have time in the early morning to cash in my stuff.
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What do you mean we don't need borg marks until T3? T0 projects require 9-17 omega marks.
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I really think it depends on how many STFs you want to run.
Speaking personally, I'm getting a bit tired of them and will probably get as much as I can from Defera and scale back on ESTFs.
People with a lot of stuff who let the conversion happen will never have to run an ESTF again. I consider that a perk that's worth dilithium I could get elsewhere.
Yea i kinda agree cause i allready got a bunch of dilithium now i havent used and i am kinda tired of running stfs
A message on the launcher where the news is now with the headline: STF changes incoming, for example. Or maybe use some of the 75% of space currently advertising the C-Store for a week to let players know of something this big.
So it's beyond them to post an official conversion tier chart to help the player decide what to do come Tuesday? :rolleyes:
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What about them doing their best to TRIBBLE with you don't you understand?
Do you have a link to where they state they're doing away the Foundry Daily mission?
The latest Tribble patchnotes say that the Foundry daily only applies to approved missions that generate XP.
Yeap i know alot of foundry authors like this but it only hurts you cause personaly trying to make me run them is only pushing me away from them so where yes i was one of the clickers but every once and a while i would play thr foundry regular missions now i wont cause of this, so what this does is push people away doesnt bring them in.
they want you to buy zen and convert it to dilithium.. they dont want you to get it easily any other way.
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Very true but they have underestimated how cheap i am lol, i will never buy zen to get dilithium, never never never lol mmuhahahahaha, ill buy ships costumes pets all kinds of things but not dilithium, Yea in all honesty the think where stupid or something cause its more them obviouse that there plan on people buying dilithium with zen hasnt turned out like they thought it would so now there trying to make ya do it, but it's not happening with me, Ill farm dilithium as best i can and even if they make it so ya cant them ill simply do with out, this is only a game and as much as i love star trek, this game is not a have to in life.
Lol. And I thought I was the only one who ever referenced that book.
Anyway, there's another way you can give them MACO costumes, and it doesn't need spare armor.
Type in /costumecreator.setslottype [string] to convert the slot type to whatever [string] is. If it's not a valid type, you get Tr: Unrestricted, which lets you use any of your unlocked costume items for this species. This also allows for off-duty boffs
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
But can you explain why you should leave your Encrypted data chips, if you happen to have 2 to 3 of them, in inventory instead of trying to use them in some way.
It's our current reality. It sucks but we do it for the love of the game.
This.
I'm cashing out most of it, but leaving enough to convert over to 3000 Omega marks. Reason? According to current prices, each mark XII piece will cost 1000 omega marks. 3000 will allow me to pick up the whole set. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that each elite STF would award something around the neighborhood of 50 omega marks. That's 60 STFs to get 3000 marks. I have 6 toons. The idea of running ANOTHER 360 STFs after ALREADY running a bunch to unlock the reputation to T5 doesn't exactly make me jump for joy. Now, i will still be running some STFs even after I unlock T5. And since omega marks can't be transferred between toons, I'd have to run them equally on all toons. I think I'd rather grind dilithium on the characters I want to play, and transfer it to the ones that need it. Not to mention that I can get dilithium through other means (something that can't be done with omega marks). With 3000 omega marks from the conversion, I won't need to run additional STFs on every character, and to me, that's worth something.
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I have ~612 EDC, 9 proto tech and 11 rare tech. I cashed in all of my salvages as they didn't seem to impact results at all. If I leave it all as it is now to be converted it gets 4000 OM, 18 BNPs and 16K dil..
This would all be so much simpler if Cryptic released a tier chart of their cutoff points :rolleyes:
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God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
If the conversion system is going to be tiered, why was the design concept made to penalise players with large amounts of EDC-based currency? Why do the Omega boxes themselves contain the dilithium? Wouldn't it have made more sense to convert all EDC currencies to dilithium ore as S7 is rolled out server, then awarding the player a set amount of 'Omega Points' for the purpose of deciding what rewards they would eventually receive when they are able to unlock it?
You could even add a dilithium ore received malus to conversion at certain tiers, to simulate buying the Omega Box rewards with Ore you would otherwise have recieved from converting prior to S7 rollout, instead of giving out the paltry sums that have been seen in the Tribble test Server.
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