"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
No Dilithium?! Marks are one thing but what about those of us who aren't interested these grinds? It's bad enough there is no loot or DL rewards in the season 7 Tribble build for STF's.
this was a fun mission, played it a few times on tribble. i actually had to try when doing this, making a mad dash all around the volt to kill the weavers. the first part can basically be beaten by 2 escorts going in opposite directions though.
"They could initiate a reaction that would pull the Vault out of our dimension!" ...To where, exactly?
Looks like a fun mission. I'm glad we finally get to bring our main starships into the Haakona System!
Probably the mirror universe. There's evidence in between their show appearances (which in the S6 dev blog STO appears to have embraced) that the Tholian Assembly is united accross both universes, and possibly across time as well. They appear to use this as a convenient way to capture things by moving them somewhere that they can't be retaken - they did this with the USS Defiant in TOS (taking it into the past in the mirror universe), and the ISS Odyssey on Nukara (bringing it into out universe and buried inconveniently deep in a planet).
Interesting. Tholians really are getting around, hitting two sectors a long ways apart without controlling any of the territory in between. How are they doing that?
Interesting. Tholians really are getting around, hitting two sectors a long ways apart without controlling any of the territory in between. How are they doing that?
Transwarp, possibly some type of interdimensional travel allowing them to use a conveniently empty universe to bypass enemy territoriy, or possibly just higher warp speeds than the Federation, Klingons, or Romulans can match. Their technology is weird and poorly understood, but it seems pretty clear it's more advanced than anyone else involved.
No Dilithium?! Marks are one thing but what about those of us who aren't interested these grinds? It's bad enough there is no loot or DL rewards in the season 7 Tribble build for STF's.
I realised it is the absence of any tangible reward that keeps me from playing the fleet (as in Season 6) missions. Getting only marks that by themselves aren't of any use just doesn't cut it (they're only good for fleet base projects, IF you spend a lot of other stuff along the way).
Now I get the same feeling about the new Season 7 missions. And, which is far worse, even about STFs, unless they at least keep current Dil rewards (it's ridiculous, anyway, one elite gives you enough Omega marks for a couple days worth of projects, but again, you gotta get the other stuff as well).
And if STFs were to become just a "mark generating tool", I'd loose the last "playing part" of the game. Since getting ressources and doffs and whatever from the exchange, replicator, NPC vendors and filling it in either starbase's or reputation's projects is not playing. That seems like paperwork and growing bureacracy I'm already spending half the time in game with. Just saying...
On the other hand, give those missions something, like dilithium or/and at least some Mk XI rare loot, and there is reason to play, or replay those missions on a regular basis.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
I'm not so sure about that. After all, the Tholians are bringing mirror universe peeps to our side.. if thats where they come from why come here at all? Wasn't there a comment or a reference made in perhaps a Season 6 blog about the Tholians that suggested they exist in their own type of dimension?
STOwiki
It has been theorized that the Assembly actually spans multiple dimensions in spacetime. These claims are supported by their frequent involvement with the mirror universe, as well as their apparent interest in the Temporal Cold War, and time displaced artifacts. It is said that Tholia inhabits a region of space where the borders between dimensions are unnaturally thin, and that the Tholians have developed technology that allows them to cross those borders at will. In 2409, observation of the Assembly's activities on Nukara Prime and in the Azure Nebula lends strong credence to the theory.
I'm not so sure about that. After all, the Tholians are bringing mirror universe peeps to our side.. if thats where they come from why come here at all? Wasn't there a comment or a reference made in perhaps a Season 6 blog about the Tholians that suggested they exist in their own type of dimension?
STOwiki
The trouble I have with that theory is that we saw in Enterprise that the mirror Tholians were way more advanced than the prime ones, at least as far as their web technology is concerned. Unless the Tholian ships seen in TOS were an outdated design, I don't see how the faction could exist in both universes as one.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Interesting. Tholians really are getting around, hitting two sectors a long ways apart without controlling any of the territory in between. How are they doing that?
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Looks like a fun mission. I'm glad we finally get to bring our main starships into the Haakona System!
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
The Mirror universe...
Probably the mirror universe. There's evidence in between their show appearances (which in the S6 dev blog STO appears to have embraced) that the Tholian Assembly is united accross both universes, and possibly across time as well. They appear to use this as a convenient way to capture things by moving them somewhere that they can't be retaken - they did this with the USS Defiant in TOS (taking it into the past in the mirror universe), and the ISS Odyssey on Nukara (bringing it into out universe and buried inconveniently deep in a planet).
Transwarp, possibly some type of interdimensional travel allowing them to use a conveniently empty universe to bypass enemy territoriy, or possibly just higher warp speeds than the Federation, Klingons, or Romulans can match. Their technology is weird and poorly understood, but it seems pretty clear it's more advanced than anyone else involved.
I realised it is the absence of any tangible reward that keeps me from playing the fleet (as in Season 6) missions. Getting only marks that by themselves aren't of any use just doesn't cut it (they're only good for fleet base projects, IF you spend a lot of other stuff along the way).
Now I get the same feeling about the new Season 7 missions. And, which is far worse, even about STFs, unless they at least keep current Dil rewards (it's ridiculous, anyway, one elite gives you enough Omega marks for a couple days worth of projects, but again, you gotta get the other stuff as well).
And if STFs were to become just a "mark generating tool", I'd loose the last "playing part" of the game. Since getting ressources and doffs and whatever from the exchange, replicator, NPC vendors and filling it in either starbase's or reputation's projects is not playing. That seems like paperwork and growing bureacracy I'm already spending half the time in game with. Just saying...
On the other hand, give those missions something, like dilithium or/and at least some Mk XI rare loot, and there is reason to play, or replay those missions on a regular basis.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
I swore I'd never be lured into another vault mission and I meant it. Let the Tholians have it !
:P
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Then it's good that I called the KTF to help? (Klingon Temporal Force)
*makes sure lordmalak never swore he'd never be lured into another vault mission*
*comes back later, makes sure he doesn't get KILLED in the process.*
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
I'm not so sure about that. After all, the Tholians are bringing mirror universe peeps to our side.. if thats where they come from why come here at all? Wasn't there a comment or a reference made in perhaps a Season 6 blog about the Tholians that suggested they exist in their own type of dimension?
STOwiki
The trouble I have with that theory is that we saw in Enterprise that the mirror Tholians were way more advanced than the prime ones, at least as far as their web technology is concerned. Unless the Tholian ships seen in TOS were an outdated design, I don't see how the faction could exist in both universes as one.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Uh... Iconian Gates! Duh!