And even then, I wouldn't expect this set to ever be exactly on-par with the STF sets. It's intended to be good enough to last most players until they can obtain Mk XI Omega sets. A few specific builds may get more life out of it, but that's a niche sort of thing.
Sorry, but I refuse to believe that. I know this isn't like other MMOs I've played. But every one of them always had a crafting system that was equal to or greater than anything that could be picked up from a mission. Several of them Asian grinders and most importantly, Galaxies. The reason you guys don't want to have these implemented is because you think it will take away from STFs because crafting is horribly easy as it is now and you would be right about that. But, I know you guys are smart enough to come up with a better system or are coming up with one. It just needs to be just as hard or harder than getting gear through STFs because it can be done alone. Reintroduce the Delta Flyer mission, only modified for higher end gear. I know you can do it.
i really dont like this ideology, everyone of these sets should be viable at end game. what does that say about normal equipment? why bother making it in mkX-XII?
the aegis deflector and engine are fine, better then maco imo, at least the engine is hyper and you get +10 defense from them, very nice. but the shields is terrible, its a blue quality mkX cov with cap+2 and a tiny amount of extra shields power. i suggest cap2, reg2 or cap2, +10 energy resistance like maco.
thats all the set needs. this set is supposed to be a counterpart to the borg set, and the borg set is still basically king. so aegis should be closer to its level, and not so far behind. its 1 thing fro breen and jemhadar to be training wheels, but this was a former premium set.
I agree with as much work for dilithium grinding and sample farming I did, i should be no less than ON PAR WITH OTHER SETS. It gives more options on making builds for characters and I feel like I have a sense of uniqueness that my shop has the aegis set bc of the reactive shielding proc.
Before this thread gets too carried away, I wanted to chime in on the subject...
The Aegis Set is obtained via Crafting. It always has been, and always will be.
While we're open to taking feedback on the stats and bonuses of the existing gear (let's call it the Aegis Mk XI Set, for simplicity), no new versions are likely to be introduced until we revisit the Crafting system as a whole.
And even then, I wouldn't expect this set to ever be exactly on-par with the STF sets. It's intended to be good enough to last most players until they can obtain Mk XI Omega sets. A few specific builds may get more life out of it, but that's a niche sort of thing.
I agree that it is a crafting set and that the set shouldn't be as good as other grind heavy sets.
However, the people that have sunk resources and time (gathering resources and crafting them) in order to get this set should have some reward for this.
Would it be possible to make a Mk XII model that uses current Mk XI sets + a chunk of Dilithium and have it be bind on pickup? Slightly higher stats but no other changes?
Why is there this need some players have, to want to balance all the items in the game ?
SETS should be different, some more powerful some less. Some more suitable for some tasks, some for others. Otherwise we can just have one set because diversity is something that is apparently bad.
Basically You people are trying say that aegis set should be as good as those dropped in STF,
Yet there's no real effort put in to obtain it.
Perhaps some drops should be moved from PVE to PVP. Would make it a lot more difficult to obtain, yet a lot more interesting. AEGIS however is a crafted set, so it should remain of lesser characteristics quality.
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The whole crafting system needs looking at again. I mean, half the stuff you can craft, you can buy from the Dilithium store, and its cheaper.
I crafted a set of phasers before realizing they were in the store, spent almost 100k on unreplicatable materials and uncommon unreplicatable before finding I could buy them for 10k each in theat store.
Aegis won't get a boost or a new version until the whole crafting fiasco is sorted out and God knows when that will be.
Basically You people are trying say that aegis set should be as good as those dropped in STF,
Yet there's no real effort put in to obtain it.
While i do understand the Aegis was never intended to be a end game st, to say that STF gear takes more effort than crafting the Aegis set, is a little disingenuous. It takes more time and effort to craft a full Aegis set, since the horrible changes to the crafting system when they added Di to everything, than the time to farm a XI, XII set, at least until season 7 goes live, lol
Even then it;'s not going to be hard, if you have the 1.2K dil on hand and a couple of white doffs to spare you can be getting acess to the lowest level stuff in just 40Hr's. Hell given the number of marks needed the necessery minimum 2 STF's will probably get you most of your needed dil as well so...
Before this thread gets too carried away, I wanted to chime in on the subject...
The Aegis Set is obtained via Crafting. It always has been, and always will be.
While we're open to taking feedback on the stats and bonuses of the existing gear (let's call it the Aegis Mk XI Set, for simplicity), no new versions are likely to be introduced until we revisit the Crafting system as a whole.
And even then, I wouldn't expect this set to ever be exactly on-par with the STF sets. It's intended to be good enough to last most players until they can obtain Mk XI Omega sets. A few specific builds may get more life out of it, but that's a niche sort of thing.
I still prefer the aegis set in many ways....
However instead of that why not a set that is both crafted AND an STF set.
You could add STF reward items... either random drop... or for sale in the new stores... that allow the crafting of either mk xii aegis ... or Omega Aegis... or what ever you want to call it... that could require all the current things needed to craft an aegis set + 1 or how ever many of the special tech parts dropped from the STFs.
You could even for simplicity even just make it a craftable item that requires the Aegis Piece + the parts.
Seems to me it would be a pretty simple add... and what with crafting costing dilithium now Cryptic could come out with a nice little $$$ maker with very little dev time needed.
AEGIS however is a crafted set, so it should remain of lesser characteristics quality.
It is 2x harder to get an aegis set then it is to get a borg retro set or even a maco omega or khg. Just saying. Nothing is hard to obtain in this game... and the sets are the easiest of all gear to aquire with Zero input outside of time... the Crafted set however takes the Most amount of time if you are going to craft it... you must level your crafting (which takes more time then running 6 stfs and being done). Even if your toon is already at max crafting rating... and you have the traces and stuff anyway... it costs Dilithium on top these days for the unrep junk.
Seems to me the set with the lowest stat is in fact the most expensive set to obtain. Just saying.
PS... I understand you can say ya but you can just purchase the Aegis set from the exchange from a crafter... thats true... but perhaps an advanced Aegis set should be bind on creation... problem solved there. Long grind should equal a set that is =
It is 2x harder to get an aegis set then it is to get a borg retro set or even a maco omega or khg. Just saying. Nothing is hard to obtain in this game... and the sets are the easiest of all gear to aquire with Zero input outside of time... the Crafted set however takes the Most amount of time if you are going to craft it... you must level your crafting (which takes more time then running 6 stfs and being done). Even if your toon is already at max crafting rating... and you have the traces and stuff anyway... it costs Dilithium on top these days for the unrep junk.
Seems to me the set with the lowest stat is in fact the most expensive set to obtain. Just saying.
PS... I understand you can say ya but you can just purchase the Aegis set from the exchange from a crafter... thats true... but perhaps an advanced Aegis set should be bind on creation... problem solved there. Long grind should equal a set that is =
Actualy I'm prety sure that the aegis set is the only one you can sell too.
The breen and jem sets are bind of pickup if I'm not mistaken.
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The inherent problem is this, you level so fast in the game now that the Aegis, Breen, and Jemhadar sets are useless to use. For example, the Breen set, you now only get it at Rear Admiral Upper Half, instead of previously being able to get it at low ranks and use it as you rank up. By the time you are Upper Half, this set is useless because you'll use the Aegis set. In fact in my case, I just leveled a character, and hit level 50 before I even played the Breen missions to get the set, so its completely pointless for me at level 50 now.
Then you got the Jemhadar set, again, useless because you level up to Rear Admiral so quick and will just go with the Aegis. Then we got Aegis, but it doesn't take long to get the Borg set, so Aegis doesn't really live long either.
Point is, those three sets are useless because you level so fast past their usefulness. What you should do is make all sets have viability at end-game, so that gamers have a choice.
Point is, those three sets are useless because you level so fast past their usefulness. What you should do is make all sets have viability at end-game, so that gamers have a choice.
well, it wouldn't be bad if older sets like Aegis and Borg actually leveled upto Mk XI or XII rather than mk X since X was the cap when borg and Aegis came out. those sets would likely get used more if they were equal to the other sets, which the breen and jem hadar sets goto mk XI.
I have long been hoping for a chance to level the Aegis, Breen, and Jem'hadar sets to purple Mk XII. They introduced a way to do this with the Reman set and I think that is a good idea for all of the space and ground sets.
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I have long been hoping for a chance to level the Aegis, Breen, and Jem'hadar sets to purple Mk XII. They introduced a way to do this with the Reman set and I think that is a good idea for all of the space and ground sets.
i like the aegis set and would like to see some type of improvement on it. some way to upgrade it along the lines of the reman set, but no vault.
i have all the sets and my maco/omega are level 12 and i still use the aegis set. basically, i think it is a pretty good set and it is one of the most visually appealing sets.
typically i like using the most powerful item available, but i also use items because i like the way they look. for me it makes the game more enjoyable.
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Sorry, but I refuse to believe that. I know this isn't like other MMOs I've played. But every one of them always had a crafting system that was equal to or greater than anything that could be picked up from a mission. Several of them Asian grinders and most importantly, Galaxies. The reason you guys don't want to have these implemented is because you think it will take away from STFs because crafting is horribly easy as it is now and you would be right about that. But, I know you guys are smart enough to come up with a better system or are coming up with one. It just needs to be just as hard or harder than getting gear through STFs because it can be done alone. Reintroduce the Delta Flyer mission, only modified for higher end gear. I know you can do it.
I agree with as much work for dilithium grinding and sample farming I did, i should be no less than ON PAR WITH OTHER SETS. It gives more options on making builds for characters and I feel like I have a sense of uniqueness that my shop has the aegis set bc of the reactive shielding proc.
I agree that it is a crafting set and that the set shouldn't be as good as other grind heavy sets.
However, the people that have sunk resources and time (gathering resources and crafting them) in order to get this set should have some reward for this.
Would it be possible to make a Mk XII model that uses current Mk XI sets + a chunk of Dilithium and have it be bind on pickup? Slightly higher stats but no other changes?
SETS should be different, some more powerful some less. Some more suitable for some tasks, some for others. Otherwise we can just have one set because diversity is something that is apparently bad.
Basically You people are trying say that aegis set should be as good as those dropped in STF,
Yet there's no real effort put in to obtain it.
Perhaps some drops should be moved from PVE to PVP. Would make it a lot more difficult to obtain, yet a lot more interesting. AEGIS however is a crafted set, so it should remain of lesser characteristics quality.
@ebonytevilo: According to Your comment, I doubt You would be satisfied with "WIN"
SET either.
Yes, this is the answer for sure!!! Im saving my Lobi...
I crafted a set of phasers before realizing they were in the store, spent almost 100k on unreplicatable materials and uncommon unreplicatable before finding I could buy them for 10k each in theat store.
Aegis won't get a boost or a new version until the whole crafting fiasco is sorted out and God knows when that will be.
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While i do understand the Aegis was never intended to be a end game st, to say that STF gear takes more effort than crafting the Aegis set, is a little disingenuous. It takes more time and effort to craft a full Aegis set, since the horrible changes to the crafting system when they added Di to everything, than the time to farm a XI, XII set, at least until season 7 goes live, lol
I still prefer the aegis set in many ways....
However instead of that why not a set that is both crafted AND an STF set.
You could add STF reward items... either random drop... or for sale in the new stores... that allow the crafting of either mk xii aegis ... or Omega Aegis... or what ever you want to call it... that could require all the current things needed to craft an aegis set + 1 or how ever many of the special tech parts dropped from the STFs.
You could even for simplicity even just make it a craftable item that requires the Aegis Piece + the parts.
Seems to me it would be a pretty simple add... and what with crafting costing dilithium now Cryptic could come out with a nice little $$$ maker with very little dev time needed.
It is 2x harder to get an aegis set then it is to get a borg retro set or even a maco omega or khg. Just saying. Nothing is hard to obtain in this game... and the sets are the easiest of all gear to aquire with Zero input outside of time... the Crafted set however takes the Most amount of time if you are going to craft it... you must level your crafting (which takes more time then running 6 stfs and being done). Even if your toon is already at max crafting rating... and you have the traces and stuff anyway... it costs Dilithium on top these days for the unrep junk.
Seems to me the set with the lowest stat is in fact the most expensive set to obtain. Just saying.
PS... I understand you can say ya but you can just purchase the Aegis set from the exchange from a crafter... thats true... but perhaps an advanced Aegis set should be bind on creation... problem solved there. Long grind should equal a set that is =
Actualy I'm prety sure that the aegis set is the only one you can sell too.
The breen and jem sets are bind of pickup if I'm not mistaken.
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Then you got the Jemhadar set, again, useless because you level up to Rear Admiral so quick and will just go with the Aegis. Then we got Aegis, but it doesn't take long to get the Borg set, so Aegis doesn't really live long either.
Point is, those three sets are useless because you level so fast past their usefulness. What you should do is make all sets have viability at end-game, so that gamers have a choice.
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i have all the sets and my maco/omega are level 12 and i still use the aegis set. basically, i think it is a pretty good set and it is one of the most visually appealing sets.
typically i like using the most powerful item available, but i also use items because i like the way they look. for me it makes the game more enjoyable.