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gt86
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I have a two sets of weapons and I wondering which one would be the best for PVP on my Temporal Destroyer
Fore
3 AP DHC's Borg Mk XII
1 Quantum Borg Mk XII
Aft
3 AP Turrets Borg MK XII
I Also have a set of Polarized Disruptor DHC's as well
Fore
3 Polarized Disruptors mk XII [Dmg]x2
1 Wide angle Quantum
Aft
3 Polarized Disruptor Mk XII [Acc] [Dmg]
BO Layout for PVP
LT Comm Uni
EPTS1 EPTS 2 ATSIF 2
LT Uni
TSS1 HE2
Comm Tact
HYT1 CRF1 HYT3 CRF3
LT Tact
TT1 APB1
En. Eng.
Eng Team 1
Fore
3 AP DHC's Borg Mk XII
1 Quantum Borg Mk XII
Aft
3 AP Turrets Borg MK XII
I Also have a set of Polarized Disruptor DHC's as well
Fore
3 Polarized Disruptors mk XII [Dmg]x2
1 Wide angle Quantum
Aft
3 Polarized Disruptor Mk XII [Acc] [Dmg]
BO Layout for PVP
LT Comm Uni
EPTS1 EPTS 2 ATSIF 2
LT Uni
TSS1 HE2
Comm Tact
HYT1 CRF1 HYT3 CRF3
LT Tact
TT1 APB1
En. Eng.
Eng Team 1
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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
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Not sure what you mean here. The polaron proc chance is the same on the polarized disruptors as on regular polarons, you just trade the 3rd weapon modifier for the second proc.
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Yea, if you have the EC to burn and cost isn't an issue, I'd take the extra [acc] mod over the extra proc. However, for the budget constained, [acc]x2 polarized disruptor DHCs have been selling for not much more than standard [acc]x2 DHCs. In that price range its more like trading off the extra proc against say [dmg] for the 3rd mod, or maybe [CrtH/D] if you're lucky, but certain not a 3rd [acc] mod.
TRIBBLE | -Show Me Your Critz-
Svarog | Veles | et al.
If you're honestly limited to these two choices, I'd say the former option. I'd recommend you replace that Quantum with another AP DHC though (more effective in most PvP situations).
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas
On shared proc weapons they proc at the same time.... the chances are still 2.5%
If you land a proc with polarized disruptors you get a disruptor and polaron proc at the same time...
Same is true of the phased tets you land a phaser proc and tetryon at the same time.
Yeah I've heard that many times and have tested it many times but I find Dps goes to TRIBBLE with no torp up front and all DHC's. I get better results from 3 Dhc's and a torp up front.
What kind of BOff layout were you using in those situations with 4 DHCs?
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas
Although your assessement of this is probably correct, in theory, knowing Cryptic's stats and how they 'normally work', by observing the stats of the weapons especially in the tooltip, it states the 2.5% chance two times.
In cryptic means, and thats how most other procs work, if they are seperately listed like the 2 proc weapons,
2.5% Chance to debuff targets hull for 15 seconds
2.5% Chance to drain targets subsystems for 5 seconds
Should normally indicate they could proc seperately, or it would simply state
2.5% Chance to debuff targets hull AND drain target subsystems for 5/15 seconds lol
Never the less, its Cryptic, good thing it works this way though because that would kinda change stuff a bit, that would give every weapon 2 rolls to proc wouldnt it?
-MT-
I said BOff layout, not DOff layout. :P
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas
hehe sorry lol
for pvp
Hy1 crf1 hyt3 crf3
tt1 Apb1
Epts1 Epts2 AtSIF2
ET1
Tss1 He2
Ok, but what about when you're running all DHCs/Turrets?
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas
tt1 apb1 crf2 crf3
tt1 Apb1
Epts1 Epts2 AtSIF2
ET1
Tss1 He2
Ok, I'd suggest just a couple of changes:
TT1, CRF1, APO1, CRF3
TT1, APD1
EPtS1, RSP, AtSIF2 or DEM2 (for offensive)
EPtS1
TSS1, HE2 or TB1, TSS2
APB isn't as effective in PvP nowadays since almost everybody carries TT, and APO is pretty important for escorts (not so much for the damage boost, but more for the defence and speed/turn boost, as well as the hold break like TB).
Also, cycling EPtS will allow you a constant ~20% shield damage resist. I'm sure you'll find that more helpful rather than a third team ability.
I suggested the TB1 since you use Antiproton weapons which lack acc mods, so the TB will help in lowering your target's defence and thus allowing you to deal more damage. If you do try the TB, make sure you time it correctly so that you don't waste it when your target has something like APO up.
I'm assuming you run at max weapon power?
I'm also assuming you use 4x energy type consoles in your tac slots?
And one more thing, what eng and sci consoles do you run?
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas
Not sure where your getting the 3rd team ability I'm already running two copies of EPTS 1 and 2 and I'm not sure about RSP now since it shares a cool down with EPTS now. Actually I'm using the Mobus Destroyer and running 3 Ap mags Mk XI blues and the subspace jumper in tact. In Science I'm running 3 Blue Mk XI Field Gens and Borg Console in Eng I'm running two Blue Mk XI Neutrium Alloys. I've tried DEM and didn't see any noticible increase in Damage when using it so I tossed it for APTSIF2.
My Power settings are currently from left to right
125/85 83/65 51/25 56/25
I'm mainly wondering if the AP borg weapons are worse in Pvp than the Polarized Disrupters. I have been thinking I'm adding APO1 since I do run APO3 vs Pve.
I can understand completely your reservations about running RSP but that's pretty much your best slot due to the dangling Ens. Eng. There aren't really any other options at that level.
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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
EPtS's shared cooldown with RSP and ES is being removed in a future patch, so no need to worry about that.
I'd suggest you replace the Subspace Jump console with another Antiproton Mag Regulator, and replace the second Neutronium Alloy with an RCS console.
Also, I wouldn't think the Polarized Disruptors would outperform these Antiproton weapons since they are Dmgx2 which really is worthless in PvP.
@f4tamy | Sad Pandas