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zanthe25
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A quick question about grav well...
I know Grav Well radius is increased by 'Graviton Generators' skill...
But does its pull strength also increase? ie making harder to throttle away?
I know Grav Well radius is increased by 'Graviton Generators' skill...
But does its pull strength also increase? ie making harder to throttle away?
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From what I've heard they totally nerfed sci skills, including grav well, before I ever rolled a sci character, so I don't know what it was like in the good old days, I just know NOW it's still pretty weak.
Nope, just increases radious
Graviton Generators:
http://www.stowiki.org/Skill:_Starship_Graviton_Generators
Help tractor beams or repulsors, among other things.
Particle Generators:
http://www.stowiki.org/Skill:_Starship_Particle_Generator
help damage to grav well, warp plasma, aceton assimilators, isometric, tykens rift, theta vent, and feedback pulse as well as a couple others. I think the repulsors on that link is a mistake.
So, when I started my KDF sci what I did was max out the particle generator, but I knew what skills I would focus on from the start (TR, VM, GW, Iso, Magnetometric pulse, etc) and they all benefitted from particle. So I didn't spec any points into Graviton.
Should I not have done that? Or what?
EDIT: Also look at it in-game. Particle Generators has a comprehensive list. Graviton just has 3. 2 of them tractor beams, and photonic shockwave. None of which were important to my builds.
Player Testing --> Link
(Graviton increases GW's pull, but Particle increases its damage)
Based on that amazing info, I'm confident I don't need Graviton points for my GW3 build. It does increaes radius from 3km to 3.75km, but IMO that's just the "suck you in" range and not anything to do with damage.
Coupled with a couple purple doffs I was often (well, "often enough") spitting out 2 or 3 gravs with either GW3 or TR1 whenever I fired, so they'd get sucked in to one or the other.
I just wish they would swap the trainable skill to be tied to PARTICLE generators instead of GRAVITON, because it has almost nothing to do with that skill. I really would love to train GW3 on any new boff I get, rather than having to ask around for some kind stranger to help.
You're dead wrong. Gravity Well is affected by these 2 skills:
Starship Graviton Generators - Improves slow and hold ability.
Starship Particle Generators - Improves damage output.
And you're late to the party. See all the posts in this thread and you will comprehend that I came to learn that after reading the info in the link posted above.
EDIT: P.S. There's no note that the intensity of the hold is improved, just that the radius inside which you are sucked in is increased.
Then you're doing something wrong,i've never had a problem holding probes or sphere's with GW3 even on elite,and my build seems to be almost the same as yours...
Yes they nerfed Sci,but I still have fun playing ping pong with the Borg
One quick and dirty way I make sure my Gravity Well 3 sticks is to wait till the probes are head on and at 4km away before using it. After I use it, I keep firing waiting for one (or both) to inch forward to break-away point then slam a Photonic Shockwave on them. While any movement debuff except Tractor Beam Repulsors will generally make a GW stick good, Photonic Shockwave also adds a ton of Kinetic damage (to unshielded ships).
A few other ideas could be:
1. Tractor Beam - It usually procs on your target near a Gravity Well and sucks them back in effectively.
2. Subsystem Targeting - Target their engines and watch them squirm!
3. Phasers - I don't use them any more but Phasers always seem to proc the engines most times. It doesn't have to be much to stop them rubberbanding out of your ishy Gravity Well.
Hope this helps or at least gives you some ideas.
-Jeremy
Role your character or reset your points in Gravity and Particle Generators and pull any grav or particle consoles. Cast GW3 on the target and watch the ticks. Then add a console and repeat. Record the results and compare. Then pull the consoles and add 1 point at a time to each skill test, rinse and repeat.
You absolutely will see an increase in the amount of each damage tic as you increase particle generator. The will range from the low 200s to the mid 600s. You will not see tics for hold points iirc. A parser may show it. Not sure. Edit: It's a computer program so everything is a numerical value at some point.
I use GW to the X on my MVAE and every other ship I can for STFs. On my Vo Quv I use GW and EWP to the X. I never have a problem snaring probes and they stay held unless 1 is at the edge or mor than 3km from the target. I run 6 points in grav and particle. With no points in grav sometimes NPCs can break free. With points in grav they cannot and even Donatra does the gravity well waltz playing to my music.
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With the GW DOff you can completely zone out an area for the next full minute or so.
vids and guides and stuff
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There are different doffs that affect GW, actually. Which one are you referring to? (the one which creates additional GW aftershocks?).