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Worst Star Trek Episode
seanftd
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Hey boys and girls, just thought id like to hear what episodes you all dispise and wot ever reason you hate it for.
Off he top of my head id have to say the thaw from voyager, basically because i use to watch the show on sky 1 at night at , get one episode of either tng ds9 of voy followed by one from another st show.
the thaw seeme to be on all the time, and to top it off i jsut generally hated watching that episode the first time anyway.
Off he top of my head id have to say the thaw from voyager, basically because i use to watch the show on sky 1 at night at , get one episode of either tng ds9 of voy followed by one from another st show.
the thaw seeme to be on all the time, and to top it off i jsut generally hated watching that episode the first time anyway.
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TAS - "The Infinite Vulcan" - Reason: Okay, they clone Spock, but don't menation why it's a 50' version of Spock :eek:
TNG - "The Naked Now" - Reason: The second aired episode of TNG is a remake? Really?
DS9 - "The Muse" - Reason: Simply makes zero sense.
VOY - I'm tempted to say "The entire series" - but, I'll pick the last episode of VOY I watched, ever: "The 37's" - Reason: Sorry, i just couldn't buy that NO ONE (especially from the Maqui crewmembers would want to stay behing on a planet with an Earth society advanced nearly to the same level - as they were facing incarceration AFTER a 70 year trip home.
ENT - "These Are The Voyages" - Reason: Do I really need one for this utter piece of garbage? In all honesty, it belongs in my 'TNG' listing as it is, plain and simple, a BAD TNG episode made 13 years after TNG was cancelled. You'd think the series finale of ENT would have been an actual "Enterprise" epiosode.
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Very strange plot/story out of left field, imo
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TNG - "Masks" - towards the end of the series, and they've got the crew walking around with clay masks and Data prancing around saying "MASAKA IS WAKING." Terrible episode.
DS9 - Anything featuring Vic Fontaine.
VOY - Whatever episode involved the Doctor and the Holodeck and the Beowulf monster.
ENT - The entire series.
profit and lace - where quark becomes a woman. scraping the barrel for ideas in that one.
the emporors new cloak - turning the awesome mirror universe into a whole lot less awesome.
threshold - we all know why.
these are the voyages - numerous reasons that again we all know.
The fall of the entire franchise can be traced back to this point in time.
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I have no worst episodes. TNG came out when i was 7. Ended when i was 14. Loved the whole thing.
Watched the rest on netflix. Ds9 had no real identity til worf and the dominion war showed up. But it was fun and star trek.
Voyager. Loved the premise. Dragged put a bit. Liked how it ended
Enterprise is my second favorite to TNG. Loved the season long plot lines. Loved the tie in to the current story. I enjoyed the novelty of it. Some very exciting episodes
Im not going to dispute whether you like that ep or not as that is pure personal taste but how can you possibly say that that was the start of the fall of the franchise? on any level how can that statement be justified?
TNG and DS9 are two of the greatest science fiction series in history and during those years Star Trek was at its height of popularity. If you had picked voyager and enterprise as the point of decline I could understand (might not completely agree still but i could see the reasoning). Encounter at farpoint arguably kicked off the franchises greatest period.
"Shades of Grey" was worse.
"Profit and Lace" gives me explosive diarrhea.
"Threshold" wasn't good by any means, but I don't think it's worth super-hating.
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This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
ENT: The episodes I hated the most starred the downer characters. Malcolm Reed had his bad moments but he could be badass. Hoshi Sato's even worse. When she's awesome she's really awesome, but when she at a low point she whines, whines, whines! So I treat Sato episodes like I treat Meg Episodes on Family Guy... avoid! Vanishing Point and Fight or Flight were bad, but the worst was Exile, which was like a really bad Harlequin romance novel, right down to the plot, the set and the clothing.
(Before I'm accused of being a Sato basher, I will say that one of my favorite eps, 'Two Days and Two Nights' did show Sato in a more confident and awesome light. Every Meg... I mean Hoshi has her day.)
TOS: I'm not gonna be a bandwagon follower and go for Spock's Brain. It may be silly but it's not that stupid. No, I'm going for Plato's Stepchildren. Now why would I hate the episode that brought one of the first interracial kiss' on TV? Yeah, the part where a God forces Uhura and Kirk to kiss. That one. Why would I have a problem with it? Because the way it was done was a total cop out. I know it was the 60's and it would have started a riot or two, but come on! Don't try to deaden the blow through some cop out. Go big or go home! Also, the episode was mediocre.
TAS: Actually, I don't have one that I hate. They were all consistently good, IMHO.
TNG: 'Masks' is an obvious pick but the true alien nature of the problem the crew faced was unique, so I let that one go. 'The Inner Light' I used to hate because it lacked pew pew and action, but as I get older I learn to appreciate it more. Nope, my worst TNG ep has to be 'The Child'. For some reason I find it exploitative whenever Deanna Troi is used as a puppet. That, and I find it unrealistic that an alien impregnated her and she didn't feel the least bit violated.
DS9: Easy. 'Move Along Home'. The Wadi are jerks and their stupid death maze board game that has to be solved with nursery rhymes and puzzles was incredibly dumb. And the one time where Sisko's temper should have overridden his better judgement, resulting in 1 dead Wadi delegation... he doesn't do it!
VOY: The bandwagon agrees with me this time. 'Threshhold'. The idea of Janeway and Paris turning into lizards and having lizard babies via 'Going too fast.' was just so incredibly stupid.
Movies: Nemesis. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. In this case a 45 minute space battle that was thrilling at first but excessively long. Amazing how that can trump shooting God in the face...
TNG- Any of the Dr. Crusher episodes. They just seemed kind of aimless, with nothing really to get me to care going on. Doc Crush was kind of boring solo.
DS9- Anything with baseball. <- Period
VOY- I never saw the whole thing, the only episodes I remember were actually good, so no input here.
ENT- Never really watched it. Tried once, ended up in the hospital. Doctor said if I was any more bored my heart would have stopped. I can't watch ENT again or my health insurance
premium will go up do to hazardous behavior.
Movies: There are more meh and plain bad Trek movies then there are good ones. But I'd have to say Insurrection was the worst for me. And that's saying a lot because before that it was Generations, and before that The Final Frontier. So that's saying something, I guess.
TNG: Season 2
DS9: Far Beyond the Stars (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
VOY: Threshold
ENT: Unexpected (Never did like Male Pregnancy shows or movies)
TOS: The Cage. the whole episode i thought was not that great compared to the majority of other TOS episodes. i feel very strongly against the idea of what the Talosians did to Pike near the end of his time.
TNG: The Naked Now. it was just too chaotic for my liking for an episode.
DS9: For the uniform. Never enjoyed seeing a federation captain going to the point of almost genocide to capture one man, regardless of how he is considered.
VOY: Mortal Coil. the ambiguity of the episode speaks for itself, i just hated it along with the episode 'Retrospect'.
TNG: Code of Honor. Racist TRIBBLE. It floors me that TNG could air an episode like this, so early into its first season, and not really suffer any repurcussions. It's an episode I wish they would scrub out completely. Like with the above, I head-canon this one out. Nothing else in the rest of the series approached this level of badness. I'd take Rascals, Masks (which I actually liked so TRIBBLE you), hell even the Dr Crusher episode where she has sex with a ghost over this.
DS9: Unlike the others, none here really stand out. I can think of plenty of weak episodes, but none that are really offensive in one way or another. I haven't seen some of the latter Ferengi episodes though... If you were to twist my arm, I'd probably say Let He Who Is Without Sin is my pick here.
VOY: Threshold. Stupid TRIBBLE. Just... stupid. The plot is incomprehensible. I gave Voyager a chance, but I was beginning to lose interest by the third season. In retrospect, the first two seasons was some of Voyager's weakest series, and I think things improved when Seven came onboard. Her character and the Doctor were the two most interesting characters I felt.
ENT: The first episode. Ok, not really. I saw the pilot and simply wasn't all that impressed, and I didn't get into the series. The more I heard about it from other people, the less inclined I was to watch it. I'd heard about Dear Doctor being a particularly egregious offering, but never saw it. I heard the quality picked up massively in season four, and I saw the two-part mirror episodes they had, and liked them. But we're talking worst examples, so... of the episodes I saw, two stand out for their awfulness: Night in the Sickbay, and Ensign Hoshi Gets Beamed Up And Spends The Entire Episode In Some Kind Of Bizarre Nightmare About Using the Transporter. I don't remember the episode title, but that was basically the plot. IIRC it literally ended with her rematerialiasing and being none the worse for wear... which means the entire episode seemed to take place in one beam-up.
ENT: the TRIBBLE time traveling TRIBBLE
Most of the TOS episodes are cheesy, but you gotta love 'em for it. DS9 took awhile to get up to speed and then ended abruptly.
But, I have to agree with Jonathan Frakes- "Code of Honor" was "a racist piece of s--t... the worst and most embarrassing." episode of the entire franchise.
Seriously? LOL really says something.
I've seen all of Voyager, so let me line up my least favorites from that:
11:59 - basically nothing more than a fluff episode about Janeway's 20th century ancestor and this guy not wanting his shop torn down to build an advanced artificial biosphere... ugh I'm getting more bored typing this. Next episode.
Any Kes-centric episode - Especially that one where Kes is moving backwards through time, another fluff episode and all it accomplished for the main timeline was a change of hairstyle for Kes. Seriously.
Sacred Ground - Oh please. Don't get me started on this one. This is Netflix's description of the episode: "When Kes is injured on an alien planet's sacred ground, Janeway must undergo a spiritual quest to saveher life." Or something like that.
Threshold - Well of course. Just in case there are people who haven't seen it, I will give a quick summary while banging my head on the desk.
Kim, Paris, and Torres are discussing the possibility of making a ship go transwarp. After some holodeck tests they figure out how to keep the nacelles from breaking off of the ship and want to try it out. So Paris takes a shuttle and achieves transwarp, but then starts mutating. He kidnaps Janeway and takes her into a shuttle and transwarps away from Voyager. Three days later Voyager arrives at a planet to find two salamander things and some babies. They take the two salamander things back onto Voyager and turn them back into Paris and Janeway, leaving the babies on the planet... awful episode -bangs head on desk-
More coming! - I'm sure I'll remember more horrendous episodes, and when I do I'll will edit them in.
TNG: "Code of Honor" for the racist undertones, "The Naked Now" because it was a rehash of "The Naked Time" from TOS, and "Skin of Evil," because we really need a melodramatic alien sludge monster who just kills people for the lulz.
DS9: "Move Along Home." An entire race of internet trolls? No thanks.
VOY: "Threshold" was pretty weak, and one has to ponder the ethical implications of Janeway and Paris leaving their lizardly love children abandoned on some unidentified rock.
I always think it should have gone something like this:
The Doctor disappears in a sparkly effect.
Harry Kim: Captain! They've beamed away the Doctor!
Janeway: (shrugs) So restore him from last night's backup.
Meanwhile, aboard the alien ship...
Doctor: Error: CoreEMH.dll not found. Error: appearance file PrissySlapHead.jpg not found. Error: you morons are trying to run an incredibly complex computer program on completely incompatible alien hardware. (Turns blue, falls over and dies.)
Kes episodes (Toss her out the airlock)
Move Along Home
If Wishes were Horses
Code of Honor
Wesley Crusher episodes (wanna punch that punk in the face and toss him out the airlock)
Troi love episodes (been awhile since I saw TNG but ones that come up on my DVR are ugh..)
Spock's Brain
Movies: Nemesis, Final Frontier, Insurrection.
Can I get a large Spock's Brain with a side of Threshold and Move Along Home, and a small Code of Honor to drink?
Worst: TNG second season finale clip show (I know there was a writer's strike and all, but still.)
Also, anything on DS9 involving the mirror universe.
Threshold was tolerable for me, actually. I'm not going to give it any awards.
Anything over the top preachy was hard for me to watch. I'm in it for the technology, not the PSA's.
Best: In The Pale Moonlight (DS9).
But in all honestly, there should be absolutely no doubt that Threshold is the worst Star Trek episode ever made. The only other one that compares is probably ?Spock?s Brain,? but I will argue that even this TOS episode doesn?t compare.
You have to remember that TOS was a different time, a different audience, smaller budget, less advancement in television programming, and didn?t have precedent to draw from. There were so many oddities in TOS (multiple earth?s, America on other planets with the same flag and constitution, computers that can?t compute) that you have to hold TOS to a lower standard.
It?s unfair to directly compare a TOS episode to a TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT because of the nearly 30+ years between them. Another way to look at it, if DS9 or VOY re-did a TOS episode, with an unaltered script (minus changes in names) and same props, the trek community would have immediately denounce it as terrible. This is because of the advancements since the 60?s wouldn't excuse the oddities like they did in TOS.
So TOS had an excuse, it was forging a new frontier and had to try new things. Voyager, on the other hand, does not have a good excuse for Threshold. VOY had a much larger budget, canon to draw from, 30 years of advancement in television programming, multi-dimensional character personalities, better tech, availability of digital, etc. To see VOY produce something as awful as ?Thresold? is inexcusable.
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TNG: "Skin of Evil". What was the point in that? Did they just look for a reason to kill Tascha Yar? In that case, I could come up with tons of better ways than to waste an entire episode with that.
DS9: "Far Beyond The Stars". Meh... I guess there are worse, like any of the Ferengi episodes... Many people are probably gonna disagree with me, but I really dislike this one. Almost fell asleep several times.
VOY: "Threshold". Again, I'll jump on the bandwagon with this one. Voyager is my favorite Star Trek series, after DS9, however this one is just utterly stupid. Janeway & Paris having 'babies' after going 'too fast' and evolving into some form of lizard? Nah man...
ENT:"Unexpected", because I generally find this whole 'Alien-Human male pregnancy' laughable.
Won't agree with the majority who think that Voyager and Enterprise were the worst series though... Yes Voyager was boring at some point, but so was every other show. Enterprise... Meh... It's not overwhelmingly great, but it's not exactly awful either. I did like the whole "Xindi" thing.
Movie: "Insurrection". No particular reason why, I just genuinely dislike that movie.
all neelix episodes from voyager,
all ds9 episodes that involve some bajor religion stuff (or lets say all episodes with some religious stuff)
all episodes with middle age cultures with no technology whatsoever
Meh, I wont comment on your attempt to to compare TNG and DS9 to Dr. Who, Blakes 7, Babylon 5, but as this is simply an opinion thread I say IMHO that the 'encounter' mission is where the writers began the new series that was so free with TIME- they travelled in time frequently, changed things, created alternate timelines, etc. It's gotten so out of hand an ENTIRELY new timeline had to be created just to straighten out the messes created by the series' that followed TOS. It's such a pity that the writers NEED to bounce around in time to create stories, sounds to me like a lack of imagination on the writers part. They've time travelled so routinely it completely bores me now, and I've learned from TNG till now that the prime directive means nothing unless it serves the interest of the federation.
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