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So How's you Starbase Grind going?
levi3
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It's like a Ghost town in here as far as Starbases go - just wondering how the Grind is effecting everyone?
How are those Lvl 4 projects going? What are some of the requirements?
I would prefer to hear from fleets under 50 active members - which is what Cryptic based its stats on.
a 400 person fleet probably does not feel the grind yet.
but if you are a lower ranking member of a super fleet i would like to hear what you think - not really interested what the top thinks.
How are those Lvl 4 projects going? What are some of the requirements?
I would prefer to hear from fleets under 50 active members - which is what Cryptic based its stats on.
a 400 person fleet probably does not feel the grind yet.
but if you are a lower ranking member of a super fleet i would like to hear what you think - not really interested what the top thinks.
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So far we're almost at tier3 (only because we started as 5 man fleet with 2 players soloing trough tier 0 and 1).
Except for the dilithium, the rest of the grind is seamless.Even The top contributors have stopped contributing, to give a chance for the newer players to feel the thrill out of being part of something big, and still there isn't a problem with filling up the requirements (we're even considering starting doing special projects so players from different timezones can contribute whenever all the projects are running and they need the credits for whatever reason).
All in all with a good amount of people 1800 marks per day (2700 later) isn't all that hard.
You are so witty - most people here don't read the KDF forums so they would have know idea what you are joking about:eek: But I know your poke was intended for me:cool:
Edit - and I have slowed down my pace to a crawl - just 40k/40k/43k xp on my base
I stacked up on Personal Requisition & Fleet Provision tokens when the base moved from Tier 1 to Tier 2, so I'm able to concentrate on the 1000 xp starbase assignments, needing no dilithium, 600 marks and 60/60 doffs.
The plan was to stop after reaching T2 on each profession, but seeing the current requirements, I think T4 will be doable.
It took me way more effort and grinding to get the base from T0->T1 then it currently does.
So yeah... at this point its becoming a slow haul, but the 50FM for UGC is helping enormously.
The SB2 FM grind still hurts, however.
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Which is kind darkly humorous considering this would indicate the KDF blew up their own moon and destroyed their planet's ozone layer, forcing them to end hostilities or have no home-world, just because the dilithium deposits there were close and they could be lazy mining right there instead of all over the Empire...
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Well, ny guess is, because Praxis blew up, that's why Dilithium is now everywhere in Klingon space.
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The costs have left us bankrupt, and we find the benefits of player starbases to be unfulfilling. Not to mention the hassle in doing Fleet Mark grinding which is now completely unfun due to people leveling their lowbie characters and all the griefers out there messing with the Fleet queues.
This may change if Cryptic made Fleet Marks available in all missions, so we can do the things we want to do. And the Starbase costs are scaled for small fleets.
We will get to tier 4 and 5, but they are not critical and the resources needed are getting silly even with our 300+ fleet!
"silly" is that a euphemism for "insane"?
Our KDF branch is kinda pitiful, though. We're about 2/3 the way to T2 there. I'm kind of giving on on my Fleet Orion ship at the moment... ^^;
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there could be more incentives along the way, and some of the doff requirements are turning out to be a bit steep but its generally going ok.
sometime it really comes down to the players that are helping you. you might be in a fleet of 5, but if all those players are hardcore players with shed loads of resources then its not a huge problem. or you could have a fleet of 50 people and no one really wants to contribute.
the important thing is try not to let the goal of the starbases consume you. play the game as you normally would and add in resources as you get them. try not to get too bogged down in always advancing the base as the be all and end all of your gameplay.
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Once the T2 base is done, we'll start working on getting Eng to T2 so we can get can start getting ship weapons. After that I think we're going to slow down some.
You know there are vendors who sell them for EC, right?
http://www.stowiki.org/Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolts
I know, but I drained A LOT of EC buying commodities for other projects, plus batteries and hypos, not to mention a couple of consoles.
I'm spending the EC almost as fast as I'm earning it.
I know how you feel. I finished out my fleet's Bartender project after I noticed we probably weren't gonna be able to get it without grinding it out or paying loads of EC, so I just decided to do it, and get it outta the way.
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It is, as it was designed, a powerful resource drain. I would have a much happier inner Ferengi if it were not for these Starbase projects and my dooming generosity.
I'm not sure how certain people are considering the projects as getting easier due to the increasing dilithium requirements and of course the 8k refining limit per day.
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Indeed, I also said the same thing that this Starbase system wasn't for small fleets.
Granted, we don't have the numbers of how many Fleets have X ammount of players, but from my play time, most fleets are under 20 people. But not sure why they didn't add somekind of scaling feature that lowered costs based on fleet size?
Or give Small Fleets alternatives. I made a post few months ago, wondering why they couldn't have small fleets work together and share resources, share resources with a large fleet (there are fleets with alternate / reserve fleets), or have small fleets be on existing Hubs and have less to unlock, since the majority of the work is basically unlocking NPCs we already have on ships and Hubs.
Really, given the flaws we are seeing, the Starbase system was rushed and was mainly designed as a money sink.......eh more like a money toilet (ba-woosh).
As for Fleet Marks, why grinding? It just forces people to work on one thing. If you got Fleet Marks as a general mission reward, there be less sence of grinding and people wouldn't get frustrated or discouraged. You do what you want to do, and like those Experience points, it adds up and its added to the Fleet. So really, Cryptic needs to go back to the drawing board with the fleet system.
On that thought, makes me worried that the Reputation system might be as flawed and we end up grinding for reputation.......... /facepalm