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kaeaja
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Why?
1) Takes longer to get then Maco or Omega sets
2) Requires alot of Dilithium Ore
3) Requires alot of Crafting Materials
4) Having to wait for the cooldown on how much Dilithium you can refine.
Where as Maco and Omega? All you have to do is the following
1) Grind STFs repeatedly which takes no time at all in comparison to what you have to do for Aegis.
Nuff said, now buff Aegis, I realize that Maco and Omega were created later, but honestly weither they were made later or not does not matter, they have put Aegis in the dirt as a result of this, and that needs to change, the harder the gear is to get, the better it should be, it should at least be on par with Maco and Omega at their max ranks....
The Aegis Set needs a buff of some kind, something...ANYTHING to put it on par with Maco and Omega....we all know it, theres no denying it.
1) Takes longer to get then Maco or Omega sets
2) Requires alot of Dilithium Ore
3) Requires alot of Crafting Materials
4) Having to wait for the cooldown on how much Dilithium you can refine.
Where as Maco and Omega? All you have to do is the following
1) Grind STFs repeatedly which takes no time at all in comparison to what you have to do for Aegis.
Nuff said, now buff Aegis, I realize that Maco and Omega were created later, but honestly weither they were made later or not does not matter, they have put Aegis in the dirt as a result of this, and that needs to change, the harder the gear is to get, the better it should be, it should at least be on par with Maco and Omega at their max ranks....
The Aegis Set needs a buff of some kind, something...ANYTHING to put it on par with Maco and Omega....we all know it, theres no denying it.
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We know this is possible, just look at the Reman set.:)
I agree that the Aegis Set could use a buff but, to put it on par with the Omega/MACO set is a bit much. I think the Aegis Set should be a step below the Omega/MACO set. Still shoule be stronger than it is though.
No. Crafted gear should never be the best of the best. That's MMO 101.
Besides, the claim that MACO and Omega are faster to get is laughable; it takes a lot less time to get the EC for Aegis than the Prototype Salvages.
In fact, selling the EDCs for a full Mk XI (not even Mk XII) STF set would net 24M, which would buy ~5.33 full Aegis sets; so even Mk XI STF sets are measurably 5 times slower to get than Aegis, let alone Mk XIIs.
The Aegis set is the single easiest set to get - you just toss 4 mil EC onto the Exchange, which is trivial. Anyone can instantly get the full Aegis set. Grinding STFs require actual time and gameplay.
Sorry but yes, crafted gear should better or just as good.
No it is not, someone has to take the time to craft the set before it can even get on the Exchange, for that reason alone the set should be buffed, oh sure people can by the Set once its up there but the person making the set, should honestly be getting something great out of that set for all the time and hard work they put into making it, so stop looking at this from the perspective of a buyer and look at it from the perspective of the creator, the Aegis set takes far more time to get then the Maco/Omega sets, and I am not the only one who thinks so.
You can't sell EDCs.
I read your post before replying to it. It'd be nice to return the courtesy.
Economy 101: the full Aegis set is worth ~4.5/M EC; whether you craft it directly or buy it from a crafter, it's still worth ~4.5M EC.
A Mk XI STF set is worth 24M EC, precisely. That value is fixed, btw, unless Cryptic intervenes.
A Mk XII STF set is... of unquantifiable worth, but much higher than either regardless.
Most importantly, (read this time) STF gear requires actually playing the game: if the very best gear is availlable on the exchange, there is no point to endgame content (or most of the game for that matter)!
Should be quite a simple point to grasp, really.
Both are worth nothing since they can't be sold, prototype equipment pieces can't be sold, and EDCs can't be sold.
At best the worth of a MK XI set could be measured in spending those EDCs on the retro STF gear and then vendoring them for the 100k.
A full MK XI set costs 120 EDCs, 5 EDCs per retro STF piece, 100k per retro STF piece, which comes out 2.4 million which makes it a cheaper set than the Aegis.
100,000(120/5) = 2,400,000
I'm guessing you're bad at carrying decimals?
The STF sets are trivial to obtain anyways. I've done approximately 140 STFs and am sitting on four MK XII sets currently. The elite STFs are not challenging unless you're trying to carry a team of derpsters which can be easily avoided by joining one of the STF channels whereas with the Aegis set some crafter had to sit there picking up thousands of anomalies to get the mats so they could grind up to Aegis and on top of that dump all that dilithium to get the unreplicatable mats.
Sorry, but the costs of creating an Aegis set are exponentially higher than any STF gear. Aegis requires far more time and resources. The payoff for all of that hard work is getting your EC off the auction.
Thank you! I mean seriously this guy ( ^ ) is right, someone has to sit and pick up thousands of anomolies, dump their hard earned dilithium to get the unreplicatable materials not to mention who knows what else, add to the fact you have to actually level up your crafting if you have not yet, even then if your max level craft by the time you start doing it...oh....WHATS THIS!? You have to be playing the game for any of this to happen.....it requires more time to craft the Aegis then it does to obtain the Maco/Omega pieces so there for, the set needs to be more worth the effort and not just for the ECs....because who would waste their money buying the Aegis set if MACO and Omega are better anyways? Wasting the money just so you can show off that you have it when its weak in comparison to Maco/Omega or a cross of Maco and Borg sets....is just a stupid thing to do. Aegis needs a buff, nuff said.
I did notice it, but it was too late to edit.
Note that 4.5M is still faster to make than 120 EDCs, and much faster than a full Mk XII STF set.
Regardless, the important point is that if the best gear is on the AH (Exchange), there's no game.
No one is asking for Aegis to be the best; you just irrationally leapt to that conclusion.
It would be nice, however, if the Aegis set was at least viable at endgame. Right now there's only the three piece borg set with the M.A.C.O. shield. Everything else is sub-optimal.
That's bad game design. Why are you defending it? Do you enjoy having absolutely no choice at endgame with your ship's equipment or something?
:rolleyes:
No one is defending the Borg set's set effects, you just irrationally leapt to that conclusion.
It's not even the debate at hand here, we're talking making Aegis the OMGWTFBBQNEWBORGV9001 here, not about how set effects (Borg atm, but any buffs would just change which set dominates, not enhance choice) limit variety.
Did you click the wrong thread?
On that debate, I have weighed personally, with a solution, albeit one that requires some work on the devs' part.
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Ive actually met someone who believes that the Three Piece Borg set + the M.A.C.O Shield is the bets thing to do, problem here is, that is also the dumbest thing ever, no one combination or set should be better then the others. So Cavadus is right again.
PS: I AM NOT SAYING THAT AEGIS SHOULD BE BETTER THEN EVERYTHING ELSE. Seriously guys I am simply saying that Aegis should be buffed so that its on the same level as Maco or Omega or at least be more viable Endgame then it is now because as it is now, its just sad....
Will Cryptic do it, is the real question. Will they? Doubt it, I see crafting getting the boot soon. If not that, then it will be turned into the sick joke of what they have on Champions. If they do add it, will they make it a DOff mission? Most likely. If it is done, will they make it that you have to gather materials like you do in Vault and tie it to FAs or STFs? For sure, I have no problem with adding a special material but I do have a problem with tying it to group content when crafting is and always should be a solo venture. If they did tie to a special material that you have to gather, bring back the daily we had that allowed us to craft the Delta Flyer. It is still buried in the coding and you know it.
Whats this about "Crafting the Delta Flyer"? Dont we already have the Delta type shuttles?
Aegis is good as-is, but the field strength of the shield is a bit low. Upping that would make it great.
My character Tsin'xing
My character Tsin'xing
The Delta class shuttle currently costs Zen. It used to be craftable.
Only in the "Store" now. Back before Season 5, it was possible to gather materials to craft it. It took 10 days to craft one.
I have a new toon which has done less than 35 STfs (have 3xBorg parts (15 Chips) purple Projektile weapon Doff (40) and 15 green chips left so 70 chips. Some will chips can be rewarded as additional loot, but no more than 35 Stfs
this toon has already
- 4 mkxiii shields
- 2 mkxii Engines
- 1 mkxii deflectors (I dislike Khitomer)
- 8 mkxii borg weapons
And various blue Borg-pieces which i usually instantly convert to Dilithium
If i compare it to my "prime" toon,whicht needed over 100 STFs to complete his first set it seems to me there is some kind of "inflation"
So no, MACO/OMEGA/KHG gear is very easy to get.
Its only a problem if you PUG, but with a good fleet/friends you can run through STfs like nothing.
AEGIS needs an improvement, it simply not worth getting one.
If you don't want to fllood the exchange with such wargear, make it bind on pickup if you want but improve it. This will also solve the existence of a "crafter-toon": a single char with trained crafting who supplies all other toons.
Generally speaking crafting needs some kind of buff: there is nothing valuable to craft, so there is no reason to even improve crafting. While event you can get some equipment for a bit less dil than in the dil store, but thats it.
Nothing you real want to get for....
we could consider the current Aegis Set to be
MkXIPurple
when we upgrade it
1st upgrade MkXII Blue bound to account
2nd Upgrade MkXII Purple bound to character
would that satisfy all sides?
Fine, take the proposal or leave it.
I wouldn't mind a shield buff for the AEGIS but I can't complain- it's a great set as-is, MUCH better than that POS REMAN set.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
This leads me to think you may or may not know what you're talking about.
What of the Omega set, complete with Hyper-Impulse engines (with which I'm able to reach speed of 42 on my BoP)? Or the tetryon glider, which is pretty lethal when used properly? Even that gravitic anchor is useful at times.
The Honor Guard set is useful on torpedo boats, and so on. Each set has their uses, the 3pc Borg + MACO is just a nice general tanky one for people who can't be arsed to specialize enough.