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Fixing the "default 3 stars" issue
syberghost
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I have a proposal for fixing the problem of people forgetting to change the rating from the default 3 stars when they enjoyed the mission.
Instead of a 3 star default, make it blank. If you exit without picking one, you leave no rating at all, and nothing counts toward the total. If you pick something, however, you get 5 dilithium ore.
This will encourage people to rate missions, without requiring it of them, and without unbalancing the economy since dil ore is non-transferable and subject to refining maximums.
Instead of a 3 star default, make it blank. If you exit without picking one, you leave no rating at all, and nothing counts toward the total. If you pick something, however, you get 5 dilithium ore.
This will encourage people to rate missions, without requiring it of them, and without unbalancing the economy since dil ore is non-transferable and subject to refining maximums.
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As in thumbs up or thumbs down?
It would be nice to search for missions based on how much dilithium earned as well.
I think that one would be much more accurate.
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* Dec 2007 (CO)
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I remember making a similar suggestion back when that whole mess with the foundry happend in season 4 i belive.
The poster formerly known as LordOfPit, and his blog.
* Dec 2007 (CO)
* Oct 2008 (STO)
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Standalone - The Great Escape - The Galaxy's Fair - Purity I: Of Denial - Return to Oblivion
Untitled Series - Duritanium Man - The Improbable Bulk - Commander Rihan
The poster formerly known as LordOfPit, and his blog.
* Dec 2007 (CO)
* Oct 2008 (STO)
Bad idea, because the top missions will always be the same. Thumbs up is basically "how many people played it". It can be an interesting filter but the new missions deserve a chance to make it to the top of the list if they are good enough, even if they have been played less than 20 times.
We also know that most of the times, BranFlakes chooses the spotlights from this top 20 missions list, so the thumbs up feature is a good idea only if you want to create some sort of Froundry Establishment, and I don't want to think that it was your intention.
An interesting improvement would be a mark between 0 and 10.
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Drogyn was referring to my post and from what I said it seemed like I was talking merely about a thumbs up/down system because that's exactly what I would like the system to expose to people. People would only see a Like/Dislike pair of buttons the first time they completed a mission, and that's it. The overall rating for the mission would be calculated over repeat playthroughs and other factors.
In my opinion that wouldn't be an improvement over the 5-star system.
If you're going to rate a mission according to its popularity, Like/Dislike with an adjusted rating based on continued support (repeated play-throughs by the same player) is more accurate than any other system.
The poster formerly known as LordOfPit, and his blog.
* Dec 2007 (CO)
* Oct 2008 (STO)
Currently, if you have a mission with only five 5 stars ratings, it will make the top of the list. If it's a great mission, it will stay in the top 10 or 20 and people will notice that a new great mission is out.
If you remove that, you will never see any new mission in the top 10, after some time, which is obviously bad for the Foundry. Even if the current top 10 missions are currently really good ones, there is room for improvement and since no mission is perfect, it's legitimate to see an old one people like kicked from the podium for a new one they enjoyed more.
This is why I approve of the current system. 5 stars aren't enough to make a relevant choice IMO, but it's also good to see some turnover in the top 10.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
The TOP-10 list should not show new missions, period. That's the job of a category called EXCITING AND NEW which should be placed above the TOP-10 category. Furthermore, Exciting and New missions should have a grace period in which they reward players with something to entice player votes and playthroughs.
Regarding movement in the TOP-10 category, if Cryptic were to implement my suggestions, players would actively decide which mission remains on the TOP-10 category merely by playing them, repeatedly. This means that if a mission was on the TOP-10 but somehow lost its appeal compared to another TOP-10 mission, then it'd gradually lose its spot and another mission will rise to replace it.
But hey, it all requires a bit more thought, coding, debugging and processing than a 5-star system, you know?
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* Dec 2007 (CO)
* Oct 2008 (STO)
In the same way, I think a 'thumbs up/thumbs down' system with more weight being given to replays would just open up the floodgates to seeing nothing but '1-click console' or enemy farm missions rise to the top. The number of times replayed by one person (IMO) (especially with 60K missions to choose from) shouldn't even enter into the equation. If you like a mission (for whatever reason) - you should simply be able to say so, give a reason, and a rating; and let that stand as your comment. Whether or not you feel like replaying it multiple times isn't really all that relevent.
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Re-focusing on the OP though, I support syberghosts' idea.
The poster formerly known as LordOfPit, and his blog.
* Dec 2007 (CO)
* Oct 2008 (STO)
It's not realistic, there's too much trash (no offense intended, but still) in the "new" tab to find something relevant in it. And how long before it can reach the top 10 if it has too? Not realistic either.
What you're asking can easily be turned into a "number of plays" filter, but please leave the top rated as it is, it's fine. An old mission isn't necessarily one of the best missions, it just received a better exposure. Of course the top 10 holds really good ones but why would you make the turnover so difficult? This is a too conservative attitude for such a tool!
"It's old, thus it's good". Makes no sense to me.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
I do not subscribe to the idea that the top 10 list holds really good missions. However, since we're talking about popularity contests anyway, I would always feel better if the winners had votes that were backed up by consumption patterns rather than anything else.
Anyway, like I told Armsman, we'll agree to disagree.
The poster formerly known as LordOfPit, and his blog.
* Dec 2007 (CO)
* Oct 2008 (STO)
Neverwinter has completely redone the way Foudnry missions are listed, and hopefujlly STO's will follow suit.
Here's an excerpt from my article on StarbaseUGC.com: http://starbaseugc.com/index.php/trailers/essential-viewing/our-first-look-at-the-neverwinter-foundry/
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Well just cause a mission has a bunch of reviews already doesn't mean it isn't worth playing by someone new to the game. I think what would be better is what's been said earlier, a New and Hot filter that only shows you missions under say 10 reviews sorted by star rating.
I think there's a lot of good ideas in this thread, essentially what I would like to see is more and better filters, so players will be able to see the kind of mission they want to play without having to wade through what they don't want to play. So if I wanted to play an hour-long, space-combat only, story-based mission with Romulan enemies, I could search for exactly that. And I like the location-based idea from the NW Foundry. If I pop into the Vendor Sector in Alpha Centauri, I should be able to bring up a listing of all Foundry missions that start there.
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