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jumpingjs
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I am refering to space When I am facing Donatra I have many "Anti-cloak" and one "Detect" cloak abilitys. They are:
Metron Gas
Eject Warp plasma
Grappler
Tachyon Detection Field
Ionized Gas Sensor
THEY DO NOT WORK what so ever
Can anyone or even a Dev etc explain why they lose thier purpose, I bought these things and I expect them to work :mad:
Thanks for your Time
Metron Gas
Eject Warp plasma
Grappler
Tachyon Detection Field
Ionized Gas Sensor
THEY DO NOT WORK what so ever
Can anyone or even a Dev etc explain why they lose thier purpose, I bought these things and I expect them to work :mad:
Thanks for your Time
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The Enterprise-E only found the ship when cloaked by telepathic help; their sensors did squat... and I think even in the future, where technology on both sides has been developed, this would still hold true, even with the anti-cloak abilities.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
The Jem'Hadar Anti-Proton scan will leave a red orb on her after she cloaks, you can use that or use fighters that have been ordered to attack or mines as a way of following her after she cloaks.
This. No matter how many times I say it every time I get to that point, very few people ever listen. They get right in her face, then complain that she cloaks when they get the aggro. *facepalm*
I've triggered her cloak entirely by accident, but I usually just shrug and go "whatever, she'll come back". On normal, she generally cloaks once or twice before you take her down. I haven't tried it on elite yet because I'm still trying to get all the weapons on my escort up to at least MK11 first, MK12 if I can afford them.
Indeed, who cares, just take that hag down and be done with it.
Whether it's done from beyond 5km or at point blank spamming TCD dispersals and warp plasma doesn't matter. Everyone gets their dil, their tech chance and some other loot all the same.
Next thing I know I will see people in KASE warping in to start the mission and go raging on about Donatra. Hello, you want team cohesion you work on breaking the ice and supporting teammates from the get go.
Not stay silent for 15 minutes then rage at people when some minor inconsequential issue goes wrong.
One other thing, what if the team were using fighter carriers or ships that can't get out of the way in time? What do people want to do, rage at them for not 'getting the heck away from Donatra'?
Here's what I do:
Announce "engage at pilots' discretion"
Win the mission
Be surprised that without ordering anyone around, victory is gained in short order.
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It's TRIBBLE! Maybe, in the past, it was useful but nowadays it's not really usefull and I guess it's useless. Many times, with experienced players from my fleet or from elitestf channel we stayed away and she cloacked.
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Like said above, the Scimitar's cloak is perfect, so it can't be decloaked.
HOWEVER, the effects still work. I know for a fact that the Tracking Torpedo does track the Scimitars while cloaked and you can use that to position yourself. And the various Vents (Plasma, Theta, Metreon) do remain on her while cloaked as well.
Also, there is a known trick that she does not cloak if nobody is within 5 kms of her.
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The only reliable ways to find her while cloaked are IMHO Tractor Beam Repulsors, snare here in place before she cloaks or your/others pets following here. Nowadays with the option to pin a target that would be my option of choice though. No need to do fancy stuff anymore.
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That's a good point with the carriers and other "slow" ships. If she flies toward them, they don't have the maneuverability to get away from her. And of course, the fighter pets don't care about the "5km" rule. Wouldn't expect them to have enough threat to draw aggro, but you never know with this game...
Haven't had this happen yet, but I don't run it very often. She's fired the blast, but we had the green lines as a warning (which some people ignored and they got blasted).
and this might come as a surprise to some . . .
she's borg :eek:
'nuff said
I haven't tested it in KA, but it SHOULD work against Donatra if she doesn't completely defy the game mechanics.
if it does, you should see a bunch of micro explosion moving around, which will be the hits on her hull. Doing some nice bit of damage at the same time.
have more problems with folks messing about when folks cast a grav wel to bring targets together and a single moron coasts thru th whole bunch firing his trac respulsers so a few multi shot barages and scater shot vollys are waisted
I thought it was ridiculous the first time I saw it, she cloaked whiled being held in a tractor beam, and then just flew away. I don't care how good your cloak is, you still shouldn't be able to engage it while you are pinned down in a TB.
This is only an issue for Tac players,
A well skilled and equipped SCI has no Problems with cloaking Ships.
My Atrox-Sci Captain, was now able several times to stop Donatra from cloaking.
Even players or myself was much nearer then 5km.
Get the right Boffs or invite skilled SCI Cpatains*, then Donatra has no chance to cloak.
USE your skills and not only your Guns!
Debuffing rules, but a lot people in the STO community will never understand this
One more:
I was in CSE, 2 Cruiser, 1 Escort-Carrier, 2 Carriers.
2 TAC pilots, 1 Eng and 2 SCI Captains.
Only one ship died during that run and we was easily able to achieve the optional
and had over 3 minutes left...
What you need to stop Donatra from Cloaking is, Target AUX Subsystem, Sub-N Beam, the Boarding-Team (Eng-Boff skill). All the other external detection and debuff skills are not working. You have to disable cloak "internally"
As a side note, Fighters will find her on attack or intercept. Just follow the fighter, slow down when you get close and aim about .5k below them, you'll bump into her, she sometime stay cloak (or try to) but then no shield and full damage from weapons. When we do ka with my fleet we always get right up on her and she always go boom in record time.
Energy weapons loose efficiency at range, the close you get the higher the damage. Shooting from extreme range is a waste of power and not very dps oriented. Point blank is best and where I'm at most of the time doing max damage.
Cannons optimum range is 2 km and less beam 1 km and down. Easy way to check, start shooting at 10 km and get closer right up to effective range, you'll see your number almost double.
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The issue with you thinking only of yourself and getting in point-blank range is that she'll cloak before you can do significant damage, and regen the damage you did to her shields. The ONLY thing this does is make the whole thing take 2-3x as long. Now, if the sci ships can somehow keep her from cloaking. . .then fine, get to point-blank range and have at 'er. Or, if you're in a high-DPS group that can nail her anyways, whether she regens in cloak or not. If you're pugging, just do everyone else a favor and stay back, because there's zero guarantee that the group will know what to do to 'take her down quickly' while fighting point-blank.
lol what?
This is wrong. I have tested this many times and can confirm that Donatra will only cloak if the ship with the highest aggro is less than 5km from her.
It is very clear that Donatra is designed to be tanked by a ship with high Threat Control staying at the 5-10km range with the other ships pounding on the ship from the rear. I have done this multiple times in a cruiser tank build and she has never cloaked even with 4 tactical escorts blasting away with their full arsenal.
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If you are not doing significant damage before she cloaks again then your DPS are too low. From what I have seen just get close, she may cloak a few times but once she decloaks burn all cooldowns and throw everything you have at her, then she won't last long.
QFT.
The problem is that if the "tank" loses aggro for a split second she'll cloak.
So on PUGS, unless you're prepared to do the tanking it'll usually end up as a cloakfest.
WHILST SHE IS CLOAKED there are still a few things you can do to keep tabs on where she is though - the easiest way is to equip an Automated Defense Turret, or use Tractor Beam Repulsors (TBR actually still pushes her around whilst she's cloaked: if you turn your AUX way down to lower the repel strength, you can keep her in the beam for ages).
If you're the one tanking, and you happen to drop within 5km of her accidentally and she cloaks, you can usually force her to decloak again more quickly by accelerating far away from her (15-20KM)
i agree with this, i have a tank with threat control, and have experienced the results exactly as stated above. the key that i find alot of pug tanks miss, is the threat control, making them essentially useless, which amuses me, as threat control not only makes you a higher priority target but also gives a damage resistance bonus too, therefore making you tankier. but i guess most of you know this and i'm just babbling now. But yeah, agreed it's the person with the agro that needs to stay away, everyone else can get as close as they like. I would like to add tho, it does seem, on the rare occasion, after she has fired her torpedo volley she will cloak, regardless of player position, so i find it's just best to stay over 10km away, laying tricobalts on dispersal pattern alpha to keep her interested.
I reserve the right to have a completely different standpoint depending on my mood.