She is a fine ship, but as others have said, it does not mix well with other parts!
Do you devs even test these things anymore?
The only parts it looks half decent in other than its original, are the imperial ship parts...
I can tell you right now that the console is not worth spending the money on, its a fancy EWP and thats about it.
The 180 quantum torp launcher is semi worth it, yes it sucks compared to a MK12 version, but that cannot do broadside beam attacks and still fire torp spread or high yield!
I am not 100% happy with the ship, I just wish cryptic would put more thought into these things
Got it, noticed the absense of the customary 10th console slot, don't know how much use I'll get out of it. I've got a fairly well balanced out regular Sovereign now, and what can I say... I'd rather have lost a science level than the engineering one. Also... I still don't know where I stand on the look. When I switched between my current classic and the new skin in the tailor, it felt like a coinflip, but when I walked into the shipyard and compared what was there with the ships that sat outside the windows before, I felt kinda sorry for, well, I don't know who.
I'll probably just use some of my many, many saved up prototype salvages to outfit the ship separately instead of swapping over my current loadout, so I can switch back and forth hassle-free and see how the two different ships end up comparing. If nothing else, what with diminishing returns, I can probably at suffer to swap out one of my sovereign's phaser relays for the metreon gas collector, for crowd control. Even though I think it might've been cheaper to pull the theta thing out of the bank...
For now I rate this three point five mehs out of five.
Wide angle Quantum Launcher not proving as advantageous as I thought it might on my Escort due to over a hundred point decrease in damage.
I tested it on all the Fleet missions today and the regular higher point Quantum Launcher was better.
It will be nice to use on the cruiser though.
The wide angle is mainly advantageous for beam boats where your strongest gun attack is broadside--the wide angle torpedoes allow you to fire while staying in the broadside orientation. If you are using Dual Beam Banks or Dual Canons/DHC, then you will generally already be trying to face your target sufficiently for the regular 90 degree torpedo arc.
Quite surprised - I'd guessed that we'd see Regent's everywhere subsequent to their release yesterday.
Saw a few around ESD when logged in at 6pm (BST) yesterday, which was about an hour after the patch had finnished - played 'Fleet Alert' during said time and wound up with three Regent's, myself (using my Armitage) and a Prometheus (T4).
Subsequent to the end of said mission flew to DS9, and saw only two Regent's. Logged off shortly afterward.
Logged in this morning for my routine pre-work online hour and couldn't see any anywhere. Not in missions, not around ESD, not around DS9 and not around the fleet starbase system. There were a few Sovereign's, but not of the Refit variety.
Plenty of Odyssey's though - so have people purchased the Regent and stuck it's consoles on their Odyssey class ships, or whatever ship they were using prior to the Regent's release?
Judging by this thread and my feelings I'm not surprised and I don't we will be seeing many more. I think cryptics best option at this point would be to lower the price to say the Intrepid, and refund the difference to all who bought it.
Well tried the regent class buy itself with out the upgrades and found out its pretty impressive but put the Borg enhancements on its a badass ship ....did the fleet pvps and found it more effective manuvering and tactical very well so far
Quite surprised - I'd guessed that we'd see Regent's everywhere subsequent to their release yesterday.
Saw a few around ESD when logged in at 6pm (BST) yesterday, which was about an hour after the patch had finnished - played 'Fleet Alert' during said time and wound up with three Regent's, myself (using my Armitage) and a Prometheus (T4).
Subsequent to the end of said mission flew to DS9, and saw only two Regent's. Logged off shortly afterward.
Logged in this morning for my routine pre-work online hour and couldn't see any anywhere. Not in missions, not around ESD, not around DS9 and not around the fleet starbase system. There were a few Sovereign's, but not of the Refit variety.
Plenty of Odyssey's though - so have people purchased the Regent and stuck it's consoles on their Odyssey class ships, or whatever ship they were using prior to the Regent's release?
Well, problem is if you already got an Odyssey or an Excelsior, you don't really need this ship. Odysseys are definitly more versatile and Excelsiors basically have the same firepower. The additional tactical ensign really harms its tankiness/heal abilities, a problem the Excelsior doesn't have. Also the Excelsior is cheaper and more agile. The launcher and console both are neat, but again their use has quite some trade-offs.
Also, and I really hope people will get this, the universal lieutenant slot is a really bad bait. It doesn't make much sense to put anything but a science BOFF in there or you'll just be a little target practice. The Fleet version will be better and up its performance a little compared to the Excelsior, which thanks to another brilliant move by Cryptic obviously won't get an upgrade, but the ship still is only a nice and expensive PvE gimmick.
P.S. And before someone starts crying, yes I bought and tested it to get my biased review.
Yes if you have the Oddy then dont go near this, if you dont have it then get the Oddy, it looks alot better, has its own bridge and better unique consoles.
Not sure I agree there, when people start to realise what a damn good ship it is and ignore the biased reviews from those that have not even bought it, then I think the numbers will increase. As it stands I am quite happy to be one of the few that are parked up outside ESD amongst the ubiquitous Oddys.
Agreed ... I'm happy with her.
My only raised eyebrow has to do with how thin the stardrive section is, but solved that by placing the regular sovie hull there with rest Regent + the Imperial neck.
Mine is set to Tac and so far after 6 hrs of play in elite STFs and NWS etc it has not been killed yet (engineer)
Real threats, like, for example PvP. Elite STFs, where you can tank Tac Cubes with a B'Rel aren't really a measure.
Many things work in PvE, that's why I said it is a nice PvE gimmick. Slotting a sci BOFF means it has the same layout as a D'Kora Marauder, so yes, it is a tactical cruiser that can stay alive without the ability to mount DHCs and DCs and bad maneuverability. It will never be a healer and if people just look for a tactical cruiser and want it cheaper, they can get the Excelsior.
Real threats, like, for example PvP. Elite STFs, where you can tank Tac Cubes with a B'Rel aren't really a measure.
Many things work in PvE, that's why I said it is a nice PvE gimmick. Slotting a sci BOFF means it has the same layout as a D'Kora Marauder, so yes, it is a tactical cruiser that can stay alive without the ability to mount DHCs and DCs and bad maneuverability. It will never be a healer and if people just look for a tactical cruiser and want it cheaper, they can get the Excelsior.
Well, considering that STO is PVE-driven, that's not a surprise. And until they revamp PVP (which might change the current PVP performance of ships, so who knows what will work then?), a ship's PVE performance will likely be the benchmark for how well it works in the game.
And it's worth noting that the Excelsior cannot reconfigure itself as the Universal BOFF station allows the Regent to. Add that to the combat abilities that come as part of the purchase of the ship (Metron and WA Torp), and the Regent does come out as a superior combat ship (though the Excelsior is still the best fast-reaction cruiser in the game due to it's non-combat Transwarp ability).
Lastly, I think you could only call the Regent's maneuverabilty bad if you aren't talking about Federation Cruisers. The Excelsior is the only Fed cruiser that is better. The Star Cruiser is equal, and the Exploration Refit, Dreadnaught, and Flagship Cruisers are worse. The only other way you could be comparing it to other Fed Cruisers and finding it bad would be if you were looking at T1 or T2 cruisers as the benchmarks.
Bought the ship last night. I love the new console and torpedo. The slightly lower DPS of the torp is a great trade off to the ability to fire it broadside.
The look of the ship is great but as other's have mentioned it doesn't mesh well with the other variant parts. The pylons mount far to close to the rear of the ship to allow a decent use of the other ships pieces.
The Metreon Gas console is great and does a really decent amount of damage (especially if you can get several ships at once). I love that you can choose to detonate it after the enemy ships are stuck inside rather than just a timed detonation.
I love the ship and it's a great addition to the new lineup of current generation Starfleet vessels. I have the Oddy as well but I'll be using the Regent as my main for a while as I like the agility and feel of it.
Let me think logically......if cryptic gave us what we asked for, and sold it at a reasonable price (pre greed prices gouging of course) then everyone could be happy?
If universal consoles and individual ship features were the only reason to purchase c-store ships
and tier 5 ships all had universal Commander bridge slots, 5 fore, 5 aft weapon slots,15 universal console and 5 device slots, tier 4 had 1 universal commander slot and 3 universal Lt commanders, 4 fore, 4 aft weapon slots, 12 universal consoles, 4 device slots......and so on.......it sure would be hard to complain since all of the customization would be in the hands of the captain.......hmmmm I heard a company promise full customization when they launched a game......I think it was called sto.
Simplify issues just let us customize our own stuff =98% far less complaints. I think that is commo sense.
Ship Balance would be a dead issue, every class would have the same oppurtunities, and ship features and consoles would be the only place for discussion or contention.........
P.S. Would it not make sense if you were gonna make a weapon uniquie that it would be only unique per facing, so that one could be equipped fore and aft? Or maybe it would be even better if they were not unique at all since real money is being for them?
Thank you.
I hate being the I told you so guy, but if the lack of foresight uniform fits.........wear it like a dunce cap
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Do you devs even test these things anymore?
The only parts it looks half decent in other than its original, are the imperial ship parts...
I can tell you right now that the console is not worth spending the money on, its a fancy EWP and thats about it.
The 180 quantum torp launcher is semi worth it, yes it sucks compared to a MK12 version, but that cannot do broadside beam attacks and still fire torp spread or high yield!
I am not 100% happy with the ship, I just wish cryptic would put more thought into these things
I'll probably just use some of my many, many saved up prototype salvages to outfit the ship separately instead of swapping over my current loadout, so I can switch back and forth hassle-free and see how the two different ships end up comparing. If nothing else, what with diminishing returns, I can probably at suffer to swap out one of my sovereign's phaser relays for the metreon gas collector, for crowd control. Even though I think it might've been cheaper to pull the theta thing out of the bank...
For now I rate this three point five mehs out of five.
Wide angle Quantum Launcher not proving as advantageous as I thought it might on my Escort due to over a hundred point decrease in damage.
I tested it on all the Fleet missions today and the regular higher point Quantum Launcher was better.
It will be nice to use on the cruiser though.
The wide angle is mainly advantageous for beam boats where your strongest gun attack is broadside--the wide angle torpedoes allow you to fire while staying in the broadside orientation. If you are using Dual Beam Banks or Dual Canons/DHC, then you will generally already be trying to face your target sufficiently for the regular 90 degree torpedo arc.
Judging by this thread and my feelings I'm not surprised and I don't we will be seeing many more. I think cryptics best option at this point would be to lower the price to say the Intrepid, and refund the difference to all who bought it.
Well, problem is if you already got an Odyssey or an Excelsior, you don't really need this ship. Odysseys are definitly more versatile and Excelsiors basically have the same firepower. The additional tactical ensign really harms its tankiness/heal abilities, a problem the Excelsior doesn't have. Also the Excelsior is cheaper and more agile. The launcher and console both are neat, but again their use has quite some trade-offs.
Also, and I really hope people will get this, the universal lieutenant slot is a really bad bait. It doesn't make much sense to put anything but a science BOFF in there or you'll just be a little target practice. The Fleet version will be better and up its performance a little compared to the Excelsior, which thanks to another brilliant move by Cryptic obviously won't get an upgrade, but the ship still is only a nice and expensive PvE gimmick.
P.S. And before someone starts crying, yes I bought and tested it to get my biased review.
decker999
Join Date: Aug 2010
2500 for this is appallling it really is.
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Agreed ... I'm happy with her.
My only raised eyebrow has to do with how thin the stardrive section is, but solved that by placing the regular sovie hull there with rest Regent + the Imperial neck.
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Real threats, like, for example PvP. Elite STFs, where you can tank Tac Cubes with a B'Rel aren't really a measure.
Many things work in PvE, that's why I said it is a nice PvE gimmick. Slotting a sci BOFF means it has the same layout as a D'Kora Marauder, so yes, it is a tactical cruiser that can stay alive without the ability to mount DHCs and DCs and bad maneuverability. It will never be a healer and if people just look for a tactical cruiser and want it cheaper, they can get the Excelsior.
decker999
Join Date: Aug 2010
Well, considering that STO is PVE-driven, that's not a surprise. And until they revamp PVP (which might change the current PVP performance of ships, so who knows what will work then?), a ship's PVE performance will likely be the benchmark for how well it works in the game.
And it's worth noting that the Excelsior cannot reconfigure itself as the Universal BOFF station allows the Regent to. Add that to the combat abilities that come as part of the purchase of the ship (Metron and WA Torp), and the Regent does come out as a superior combat ship (though the Excelsior is still the best fast-reaction cruiser in the game due to it's non-combat Transwarp ability).
Lastly, I think you could only call the Regent's maneuverabilty bad if you aren't talking about Federation Cruisers. The Excelsior is the only Fed cruiser that is better. The Star Cruiser is equal, and the Exploration Refit, Dreadnaught, and Flagship Cruisers are worse. The only other way you could be comparing it to other Fed Cruisers and finding it bad would be if you were looking at T1 or T2 cruisers as the benchmarks.
My own two cents.
Would you put the torp and the console in the c-store instead?
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
The look of the ship is great but as other's have mentioned it doesn't mesh well with the other variant parts. The pylons mount far to close to the rear of the ship to allow a decent use of the other ships pieces.
The Metreon Gas console is great and does a really decent amount of damage (especially if you can get several ships at once). I love that you can choose to detonate it after the enemy ships are stuck inside rather than just a timed detonation.
I love the ship and it's a great addition to the new lineup of current generation Starfleet vessels. I have the Oddy as well but I'll be using the Regent as my main for a while as I like the agility and feel of it.
Nice work devs!
If universal consoles and individual ship features were the only reason to purchase c-store ships
and tier 5 ships all had universal Commander bridge slots, 5 fore, 5 aft weapon slots,15 universal console and 5 device slots, tier 4 had 1 universal commander slot and 3 universal Lt commanders, 4 fore, 4 aft weapon slots, 12 universal consoles, 4 device slots......and so on.......it sure would be hard to complain since all of the customization would be in the hands of the captain.......hmmmm I heard a company promise full customization when they launched a game......I think it was called sto.
Simplify issues just let us customize our own stuff =98% far less complaints. I think that is commo sense.
Ship Balance would be a dead issue, every class would have the same oppurtunities, and ship features and consoles would be the only place for discussion or contention.........
P.S. Would it not make sense if you were gonna make a weapon uniquie that it would be only unique per facing, so that one could be equipped fore and aft? Or maybe it would be even better if they were not unique at all since real money is being for them?
Thank you.
I hate being the I told you so guy, but if the lack of foresight uniform fits.........wear it like a dunce cap
Funny enough that's the #1 reason why I bought the Regent
decker999
Join Date: Aug 2010