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starcommando101
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Hi. I've been around since F2P hit. I've noticed some amazing things in this game. It is something like no other. There is no other game on the market that is close to this game (Some may argue SWTOR but their F2P version of the game is... Well frankly dumb.)
This game is good, I might go as far and say it is very good. You have manage to get to the top of the PWE chain. The number 1 game in America for PWE.
But the thing is... This game can become Great. One of the greatest all time. These are my opinions on a stepping stone to get there.
1) Flesh out KDF to become a Full Fledge Faction
Ok why? you may ask... What reason should we with the whole 16% rule you gave... Thing is, of course the Klingons are 16% of the base, mainly because you need to get to level 25 of your Federation Character to get 1. Most people won't bother.
Solution to Fleshing them out...
*Give them 1-20 levels with ships accordingly
*Boost Raptors to compete with the Defiants (also fix the Raptors turn axis, they turn on their back)
*More T5 Ships for KDF
*Utilize the Starfleet/KDF Academy to its full potential (more details later)
*Give them more areas to explore, sector spaces and more starbases
2)Introduce one or two new factions
Most games that thrive (MMOs) have different factions with their own unique style. Feds are more Engineer focused, as Klingons are more Tactical, so Romulans can be more Science focused. Cardasians can be more Balanced. I love the Klingons Honor they present, their style is legendary, now bring in the Romulans and show us what they are about! Have it set where we can start the game and choose what faction we want to join.
Solution to adding new faction...
*I know the addition of a full fledged out Romulan Faction will take a while. But if done right, this can change the face Star Trek. Send STO to to sky. A trailor with the option to play as a Romulan, Federation, or Klingon will be epic to say the least.
*All the ships of the Romulans seen so far in game
T'Liss Fighter
? Romulan Bird-of-Prey
? Mogai Escort
? D'deridex Battleship
? Scimitar Dreadnought
just to name a few.
Use the Romulan Academy to its full potential (discuss later)
Starbases like the feds have and one or two more sectors with more starbases to go to or visit.
3)The Academy
When I saw the trailor for STO with the Admiral giving a speech to the Cadets at the Academy, I saw a potential for greatness. The academy can be used for amazing things. for instance, make lower levels (Before you hit level 1 I guess, this will help with the game being too short.) Have it where the new people are put to the test with other people in the academy (NPCs if no one is online). Set it where you can graduate with a class, set academy records, teamwork 101, ground weapons 201, PvP 101, you get the picture. But give KDF and Romulans their own flavor.
Solution to adding a Academy...
*Leaderboard
*Classes (refresher courses for the older players)
*Graduations
*Decrease the Learning Curve by a lot.
***** Update on Academy *****
Q: (starcommando101) Will Starfleet Academy become a major part of the Tutorial? For instance, make the learning everything start and finish there. Then do battles in the Holodecks there, ground and space. Then learn about teamwork and using skill together. Cut the learning curve down.
Dstahl: Both of the Academy maps were originally built for this specific purpose, but when we learned that we were going to convert the game to F2P, we did not have time to finish the new tutorials. Now that F2P is out and going strong, we plan to revisit this and evaluate the first levels of the game and how we teach new players about STO. You can expect this be addressed over the coming year.
4) Poker
Make 3 total worlds, (4 if you put in a Romulan Faction)
*1 for Feds only
*1 for Roms only
*1 for KDF only
*1 for them all
5)Crafting
It seems you are alreading working on this one (along with the Kits as well) so I will see how that plays out. Devs, I know you will see this. This might take a while to even put in. But this is a stepping stone to becoming great.
6) PvP
I notice you guys are also working on this. Now It is moving a little slow but imho slow progress is great progress, because it is better than none.
So keep up the great work.
PS I know you guys worry that the game is getting too big on memory, and I beg to differ. Most new PS3 games run with 50GB CDs and are getting larger, This game isn't that big as of yet.
This game is good, I might go as far and say it is very good. You have manage to get to the top of the PWE chain. The number 1 game in America for PWE.
But the thing is... This game can become Great. One of the greatest all time. These are my opinions on a stepping stone to get there.
1) Flesh out KDF to become a Full Fledge Faction
Ok why? you may ask... What reason should we with the whole 16% rule you gave... Thing is, of course the Klingons are 16% of the base, mainly because you need to get to level 25 of your Federation Character to get 1. Most people won't bother.
Solution to Fleshing them out...
*Give them 1-20 levels with ships accordingly
*Boost Raptors to compete with the Defiants (also fix the Raptors turn axis, they turn on their back)
*More T5 Ships for KDF
*Utilize the Starfleet/KDF Academy to its full potential (more details later)
*Give them more areas to explore, sector spaces and more starbases
2)Introduce one or two new factions
Most games that thrive (MMOs) have different factions with their own unique style. Feds are more Engineer focused, as Klingons are more Tactical, so Romulans can be more Science focused. Cardasians can be more Balanced. I love the Klingons Honor they present, their style is legendary, now bring in the Romulans and show us what they are about! Have it set where we can start the game and choose what faction we want to join.
Solution to adding new faction...
*I know the addition of a full fledged out Romulan Faction will take a while. But if done right, this can change the face Star Trek. Send STO to to sky. A trailor with the option to play as a Romulan, Federation, or Klingon will be epic to say the least.
*All the ships of the Romulans seen so far in game
T'Liss Fighter
? Romulan Bird-of-Prey
? Mogai Escort
? D'deridex Battleship
? Scimitar Dreadnought
just to name a few.
Use the Romulan Academy to its full potential (discuss later)
Starbases like the feds have and one or two more sectors with more starbases to go to or visit.
3)The Academy
When I saw the trailor for STO with the Admiral giving a speech to the Cadets at the Academy, I saw a potential for greatness. The academy can be used for amazing things. for instance, make lower levels (Before you hit level 1 I guess, this will help with the game being too short.) Have it where the new people are put to the test with other people in the academy (NPCs if no one is online). Set it where you can graduate with a class, set academy records, teamwork 101, ground weapons 201, PvP 101, you get the picture. But give KDF and Romulans their own flavor.
Solution to adding a Academy...
*Leaderboard
*Classes (refresher courses for the older players)
*Graduations
*Decrease the Learning Curve by a lot.
***** Update on Academy *****
Q: (starcommando101) Will Starfleet Academy become a major part of the Tutorial? For instance, make the learning everything start and finish there. Then do battles in the Holodecks there, ground and space. Then learn about teamwork and using skill together. Cut the learning curve down.
Dstahl: Both of the Academy maps were originally built for this specific purpose, but when we learned that we were going to convert the game to F2P, we did not have time to finish the new tutorials. Now that F2P is out and going strong, we plan to revisit this and evaluate the first levels of the game and how we teach new players about STO. You can expect this be addressed over the coming year.
4) Poker
Make 3 total worlds, (4 if you put in a Romulan Faction)
*1 for Feds only
*1 for Roms only
*1 for KDF only
*1 for them all
5)Crafting
It seems you are alreading working on this one (along with the Kits as well) so I will see how that plays out. Devs, I know you will see this. This might take a while to even put in. But this is a stepping stone to becoming great.
6) PvP
I notice you guys are also working on this. Now It is moving a little slow but imho slow progress is great progress, because it is better than none.
So keep up the great work.
PS I know you guys worry that the game is getting too big on memory, and I beg to differ. Most new PS3 games run with 50GB CDs and are getting larger, This game isn't that big as of yet.
The Average PvP player
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
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To be honest, if the Devs open it up to start at level 1, it could be a gold mine for the Devs if they do it right. Same for the romulans, KDF + Romulans = $$$ for you Devs... $$$, We all love $$$
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
This is a chance for them, yet they are only focusing on the Feds... Bad idea. They know it.
Patience is key.
Devs if you don't believe me that the KDF won't bring in money, here is a link to a forum post where people are begging for ships they will throw money at you for. That is just a small percent (maybe 16%
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
But the KDF is here since Day 1 and they didn't give them anything big. I don't know if you play a Klingone, but did you every notice that you uncloak when your First Officer speaks to you? This bug is more than 16 months old.
Yes, the FED got their Carrier because they cried for it. Like the anti cloak torpedo of the Exeter Class. Oh and do you know the story about the Hargh'Peng Torpedo? It was easily to get for the FED players, but only through crafting for the KDF. This torpedo is a KDF torp and they finally got it 2 weeks befor it got nerfed!
There are so much more examples but my english is not good enough to explain it. Maybe someone else will explain it to you, why they won't do something for the KDF in the next months, or even years.
About the romulans, the last time they talked about was over 12 months ago.
(Link: http://www.stowiki.org/Upcoming_content .... under "Other Ideas")
And that's something nice to read about what they promised and did for the KDF
http://www.stowiki.org/User:Peregrine_Falcon
Simple
Also wotertool, in the June Ask Cryptic, Dan kind of hinted about a Romulan Faction.
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
Kyle
Did you mean that?:
Q: (Gornman47) After the KDF is brought up to par with the Federation, then make the Romulan faction and devote 2 Seasons to developing them please! What are your thoughts on this?
Dstahl: Are we going to go back and make a KDF tutorial? Are we going to add enough content to take a new KDF player from level 1 to 18? Will we ever be able to play a KDF as our first character without having to level up a Fed character first? When can we play a Romulan? These are all great questions and ones that have been discussed frequently in prior Ask Cryptic articles as well as the STO Forums. In the past, I?ve been party to a lot of that speculation by talking about it frequently in both the Engineering Reports and on the forums. It is often fun to discuss open issues like this with the player base to get feedback and see reactions to ideas that are proposed. Unfortunately, it has also led to a lot of frustration and expectations that are skewed and or informed on old discussions.
As we mentioned last month, the current discussion is where best to spend our resources. Based on overwhelming data that suggests nearly all players are max level and wanting new things to do, it makes sense that we are spending most of our effort on building content that both factions can play at max level. These players are also wondering, ?what comes next??
Season 6 will be the first step in answering this question. It will involve a new Fleet Advancement System and new repeatable content that is only accessible by max level players. It introduces Tholians which, to begin with, will only appear in max level content. It also sets the stage for some of the stories we want to tell that will involve both factions as we move past max level.
So where do the Romulans fit in all of this? We?ve been thinking about this for a long time. We have a plan. You?ll just have to wait and see how it plays out. Until then, you?re not going to see me talk much about it or speculate about what could be until it happens.
They promised pretty much for the KDF too (like you can see from my last link).
Don't think they are surprising us with that to christmas this or next year.
We need more fans like him to expect more from STO than excuses and cryptic half answers when it comes to gameplay.
R.I.P
The OP's asking for some great stuff. There's nothing wrong with asking for it :rolleyes:
You say they only care about the Feds... but what if every single Fed asked for a full KDF faction? What do you think would happen then? It would happen, because the majority ask for it.
Get a majority vote from in-game, and they have to consider it.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
The Academy can help with giving classes to older people who played the game, they can use that as a chance to flesh the KDF out.
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
As you say yourself, the 16% conundrum. Even when you only had to level a Fed to 6 to get a KDF character, which would start at 1, there was so little content (there was literally no PvE for the Klingons launch cos the game was a rush job) that not many players stayed with the KDF long term. So the numbers have always been low, so new KDF content is uneconomical to make, so the numbers stay low.
You can see it in the ships. Since the Odyssey/Bortas'qu packs, there have been 2 CStore Fed ships, another one coming and, unless I'm very much mistaken, no KDF CStore ships. Reason? They sold about 5 times as many Oddys as Bortases.
A full KDF faction is something all KDF players and dual faction players (including me) want to see. I'm sure there's quite a few Fed only players who'd give KDF a crack if there was more in it. But adding new missions for the KDF is quite simply not the most profitable way for PWE to use their resources. I'm not saying 'they'll never do it' but it's clearly on the back burner, has been for some time, and will probably remain so for the forseeable future.
I agree it should be done. But I'm not holding my breath.
2) New factions
I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that Romulans will appear within a year. But it'll be a limited faction like the KDF, which will also remain limited.
The reason is, there's more potential CStore sales of +1 Warbirds, uniforms, character slots so people can make their Romulan etc. in making 20 levels worth of PvE content of Romulan faction than in making 20 levels for existing Klingon characters who probably have most CStore stuff they'll buy.
I'd be very surprised if they came out with a full 50 level Romulan faction.
4) Poker
Someone (Tacofangs or DStahl?) said this actually isn't a big job, it's just a case of finding free capacity to make a mini-game, rather than work on actual content. Would love to see it in game.
Thank you! If all the Feds ask for it, it will happen,
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I played the Open Beta and a few months afterwards, but I hadn't enough money so I stopped playing until it got Free2Play. I leveled up my other 2 Fed Chars and decided to start a KDF Character ... a Gorn (they are awesome
Of course I am hoping that they will add the romulans, and I would pay for them if I had to because they are my facourite species (well, with the Aenar) in the big universe of Star Trek.
Wait...you basically want Nimbus III? http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Nimbus_III :P
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
Wow... I have noticed from a year ago when I knew just about every single KDF player... Now its rare that I see people from a year ago that were KDF... I guess this explains why... my mission might finally be over if they start building up the KDF more.
One big thing I'd like to see though is moving certain missions that were just given to the KDF because the fed side has it strictly Federation and move in newer things that are more KDF based. In the story the true way and such things like that is more in the Fed story but would enrich the game if it went more into the story in that regard.
Which in reality it would be a better move for both factions in theory because with the true way and such... They could do a story where they are no longer attacking and the federation allowing Cardassia to have its own military back for the purpose of fighting the borg but allowing some of the things we know like the Obsidian Order able to rise back to power and bring back the maquis and inspire the gorn to do the same with their rebellion.
In conclusion though revamping/fleshing out the KDF doesn't have to be all about the KDF it could be the wedge needed to bring the game around for both factions but being their is this huge gap in content between the two factions there is plenty of room for gutting out things players do not want and putting in newer things for both sides that we do want. The last thing though is I do believe when it comes to the federation side that they limit how many enemy factions and the number of which they are combatting because canon lore wise the federation wouldn't be able to tackle the borg, undine, KDF, true way, romulans, remans, etc all at once.
Only the higher levels are fighting the Borg and Undine (Tholians too I guess).
The lower levels fight the true way, romulans, remans, and etc. Starfleet has it right man.
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
Yeah that sounds about right... Plus I am thinking with a gorn rebellion and uprisings and conquest of new expansions of the KDF should be more of the way the KDF should be setup so it doesn't feel like rehashed federation content for KDF when its not really what KDF is all about.
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
If they want to improve Fed gameplay, and a full klingon, and full romulan. Please no half stepping when it comes to them.
Devs, you build it, they will come.
Edit: And... BranFlakes has seen this forum atleast... Hope you have all the good stuff man. I'm 100% for cryptic and all they do, they have potential to be something great, and not just good. This is a stepping stone.
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
I really see them (Cryptic/PWE) missing out on a huge profit and income with the lack of KDF completeness and development. There is a huge player and fan base. I don't buy much if anything for the Federation, uniforms I think are the only thing I guy for the Federation, however I am been buying up the KDF like it's a closing down sale. I'd love to see a full campaign, some more playable species, more uniforms, T5 ships that can also get a Fleet Ship discount for those who are after fleets ships, I am personally not, rip off.
I would like to see the KDF finished up like the Federation is and every now and then like the Federation get new content while a Romulan faction is worked on and slowly released and after that I'd love to see a True Way Faction, I really think they could do a great deal with them. But that is far, far off, if at all. I'd love to see species like Cardassian, Jem'hadar, Lissepian, Xepolite and Kressari made as playable species for them.
But well said OP, nice to see another player who seems to have more vision than Cryptic seems to have unfortunately.
Oh and yeah BranFlakes really gets a bit of misplaced anger towards him, my hat off to your mate, thanks for being the only form of communication we see from PWE/Cryptic. It's never easy being the messenger and you do it well.
That was partially due to the fact that the Bortas was nerfed compared to the Odyssey. All equal faction players will tell you that.
Dan has stated that one infamous Romulan ship wont appear as a lockbox ship simply because they are saving it for a romulan faction...
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
It saddens the Warrior in me when I hear of those who do not know the history between the KDF and the Romulan Star Empire. I honestly doubt the RSE faction is coming. The podcast with the Great Loresinger explain it all. For KDF content the planning stages the planning was cut and they explain in detail that meant nothing got off the drawing board, nothing was worked on, and nothing is currently being worked on for the KDF. Odds are that no work on KDF means no RSE based on statements that they are trying to learn from their mistakes. If this is so then we won't see a finished KDF or a RSE in the game by season 7 and if it did at this point it would be a rush job no one would be happy with.