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  • supergaminggeeksupergaminggeek Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sumghai wrote: »
    That would be ridiculously overpowered - besides, the actual destructive power depicted was merely part of a daydream sequence rather than reality.


    Probably better for a Vidiian Z-store ship.


    I'm not entirely sold on the idea of a "universal" career BOff, and even less so about one that is only used in dire emergencies. I'd sooner see the addition of Holographic BOff candidates of each career than this.


    I feel that goes against Starfleet and Klingon ideals - sure, they're at war with each other, but I don't think they'd stoop to such lows.


    70,000 LY, you say?

    Admiral Quinn's secretary is an Ocampan.

    And for a DOFF assignment: Receive Ocampan/Talaxian Dignitaries.
  • sroansroan Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I like the idea of a Voyager theamed pack but it is also leaving the K.D.F high and dry for new content yet again. I really like most the ideas but on the opposite side of the coin what can a K.D.F plaayer get out of it? I dont have a K.D.F toon but I would think they should still be able to get something.
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    And for a DOFF assignment: Receive Ocampan/Talaxian Dignitaries.
    Such a DOff Assignment would only happen if and when they release a Delta Quadrant FE series featuring new sector block(s).
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  • asardetemplariasardetemplari Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    rlak47 wrote: »
    Hi STO community,

    I posted a thread about a Voyager bundle a while back, but it died, and after rethinking the idea, I thought I'd post my ideas here.

    Essentially, what we need in a Voyager Bundle pack is the following:

    Voyager Interior - Bridge, Engineering, Transporter Room, Hallway 1, Hallway 2

    SC-4 Shuttle - with [Ablative Hull Armour - S] console and [Transphasic Torpedo Launcher - S]

    SC-4 Non-Combat Shuttle Pet

    Compression Phaser Rifle that scales as you level

    [Uncommon Ocampa Nurse Duty Officer]
    [Rare Talaxian Chef Duty Officer]
    [Very Rare Liberated Borg Astrometrics Scientist]


    Talaxian Bridge Officers and Playable Species to be released at the same time for same price as Ferasan for Federation accounts.
    Kazon Bridge Officers and Playable Species to be released at the same time for same price as Ferasan for KDF accounts.


    I look forward to the community's feedback on this idea. :)


    And a free Intrepid class ship for Federation characters and a free (Insert Klingon ship here) for Klingon characters to celebrate the pack.
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    Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    And a free Intrepid class ship for Federation characters and a free (Insert Klingon ship here) for Klingon characters to celebrate the pack.
    Nope to both points.

    Bundles aren't supposed to have full ships. One can already get a Intrepid with a free ship requisition token when one first reaches Captain. The most we'll see is a Type-9 shuttlecraft.

    Klingons as a faction weren't even featured much in Voyager (apart from Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres and some Klingon vagabonds) - how can you justify a Klingon ship in a Starfleet bundle pack?
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    In a sense, something like the DS9 bundle. I think that's great, and you can get the phaser rifle and pistol designs on your Klink toon + doffs too.

    Definitely backing this one. And maybe, someday, we'd get a TNG and Movie bundle too! :D


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  • asardetemplariasardetemplari Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would love a First Contact bundle...
    latest?cb=20160406061118&path-prefix=en

    Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would love a First Contact bundle...
    Off topic. This is VOY, not TNG.
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  • asardetemplariasardetemplari Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sumghai wrote: »
    Off topic. This is VOY, not TNG.

    "Definitely backing this one. And maybe, someday, we'd get a TNG and Movie bundle too!"

    They brought it up, not me.
    latest?cb=20160406061118&path-prefix=en

    Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    "Definitely backing this one. And maybe, someday, we'd get a TNG and Movie bundle too!"

    They brought it up, not me.
    Don't pass the buck and blame other people. It's our own responsibility to stay on topic.
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    rlak47 wrote: »
    Many KDF players may not want the Kazon, but there are those that do, and if the option is implemented in game, it's not like you HAVE to accept it.
    I have ignored the appearance of the Ferasans completely (heck, they're not even a canon species, unless they are based on the other humanoid cat race from TAS!)

    I was talking with some people in the fleet I'm a member of, and discussing Kazon ships. That is a no, because the Kazon have always been so technologically insuperior to the Alpha/Beta Quadrant powers. But as for members of the species in KDF crews, I don't see a problem (some of the special KDF Doffs are a bit dodgy, so whats the big deal with Boffs too?)

    I too have ignored the Ferasans, tbh it was easy for Cryptic to just basically copy a Federation species and add them in rather than doing something more original. I know the Ferasan's are based off the Kzinti but still.

    I would love something Kazon added to the KDF I think they would fit well after being conquered.
    sroan wrote: »
    I like the idea of a Voyager theamed pack but it is also leaving the K.D.F high and dry for new content yet again. I really like most the ideas but on the opposite side of the coin what can a K.D.F plaayer get out of it? I dont have a K.D.F toon but I would think they should still be able to get something.

    Thanks, it's great to see some Federation only players can see the massive lack of content issue the KDF has.
    sumghai wrote: »
    Klingons as a faction weren't even featured much in Voyager (apart from Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres and some Klingon vagabonds) - how can you justify a Klingon ship in a Starfleet bundle pack?

    Because the simple fact is that there are no Klingon bundles, how is that fair? I say if they are going to continue to do bundles they need to either have half of the bundle for one faction and the rest for the other or release two bundles one for each faction at the same time and not favour one faction over the other.
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sumghai wrote: »
    Klingons as a faction weren't even featured much in Voyager (apart from Chief Engineer B'Elanna Torres and some Klingon vagabonds) - how can you justify a Klingon ship in a Starfleet bundle pack?
    Because the simple fact is that there are no Klingon bundles, how is that fair? I say if they are going to continue to do bundles they need to either have half of the bundle for one faction and the rest for the other or release two bundles one for each faction at the same time and not favour one faction over the other.
    It's still a pretty weak reason to forcibly shoehorn KDF content into a Voyager bundle simply for "fairness". Dire desperation for KDF content should not mean breaking the canon.

    An updated TOS pack that also included QuchHa' Klingon foreheads, costumes and weapons makes perfect sense because such Klingons were a key part of the series.

    The DS9 pack doesn't need an equivalent KDF bundle because the current KDF costumes would suffice for depicting HemQuch Klingons from TNG-era and onwards.

    So for the TNG/DS9/VOY eras at least Klingon content should not be included in Fed bundles, but instead be spun off independently.
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sumghai wrote: »
    It's still a pretty weak reason to forcibly shoehorn KDF content into a Voyager bundle simply for "fairness". Dire desperation for KDF content should not mean breaking the canon.

    An updated TOS pack that also included QuchHa' Klingon foreheads, costumes and weapons makes perfect sense because such Klingons were a key part of the series.

    The DS9 pack doesn't need an equivalent KDF bundle because the current KDF costumes would suffice for depicting HemQuch Klingons from TNG-era and onwards.

    So for the TNG/DS9/VOY eras at least Klingon content should not be included in Fed bundles, but instead be spun off independently.

    No offense but it's like talking to a brick wall here. How would you feel if the KDF had everything and your Federation never got any content. If the bundles included equal amount of KDF content they would sell more bundles. Simple as that. The fact also remains they aren't going to update a previous bundle, it won't make them as much money. It's all about return for PWE.

    Maybe if you weren't one sided you'd see this. Obviously this thread isn't actually about the bundle but a Federation only content proposal. Thanks for your time.
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    No offense but it's like talking to a brick wall here. How would you feel if the KDF had everything and your Federation never got any content. If the bundles included equal amount of KDF content they would sell more bundles. Simple as that. The fact also remains they aren't going to update a previous bundle, it won't make them as much money. It's all about return for PWE.

    Maybe if you weren't one sided you'd see this. Obviously this thread isn't actually about the bundle but a Federation only content proposal. Thanks for your time.
    I'm not saying no KDF bundles.

    I'm simply saying that forcibly putting KDF stuff in a Voyager bundle isn't worth the dev time nor would it be well-received by most fans (other than diehard KDFers).

    You'd have better luck starting a separate topic for a indepedent KDF pack (maybe focus on the TOS Klinks) than hijacking this suggestion out of pure desperation.

    And you're more than welcome to wallow in your self-imposed misery.
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sumghai wrote: »
    I'm not saying no KDF bundles.

    I'm simply saying that forcibly putting KDF stuff in a Voyager bundle isn't worth the dev time nor would it be well-received by most fans (other than diehard KDFers).

    You'd have better luck starting a separate topic for a indepedent KDF pack (maybe focus on the TOS Klinks) than hijacking this suggestion out of pure desperation.

    And you're more than welcome to wallow in your self-imposed misery.

    Now I see nothing wrong with cross faction bundles, but as a player of both factions I can see where this has merits but as what it seems that your one of those federation only players, I will not waste my time trying to show you that as a business this would be more profitable than a single only faction bundle.

    And there is no need for name calling, just shows how against cross faction players and bundles you are.
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The fact of the matter is you've simply hijacked this thread to push your agenda for more KDF content no matter what.

    The majority of the player base is Fed-oriented, and that's where the powers that be will get their moolah from. Deal with it.
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  • alexandernabiscoalexandernabisco Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    yea really how did a federation gameplay thread about a voyager bundler turn into a KDF bundle? wrong section dude read the thread this for Federation gameplay not Kligion should be reported for posting in the wrong thread
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    yea really how did a federation gameplay thread about a voyager bundler turn into a KDF bundle?
    Long story short, a slippery slope from whether or not Kazon BOffs should be available for the KDF to the KDFers pushing for Kling ships to be forcibly included into a Voyager pack.
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